Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
"but we were always clear to Jimmy tha him salary cap-wise in a backup role and supporting Trey in that and if that worked for him, that was a no brainer for us. "

Lol c'mon dude. They left the door open the entire time as Ribs continually said Ribs was right, you as usual was flat out wrong.

It's kinda hard to hold TreyDey/Ribs accountable for for all of his swings and misses given all the names he's allowed to have.

What part of

"but we were always clear to Jimmytha him salary cap-wise in a backup role and supporting Trey in that and if that worked for him, that was a no brainer for us. "

Explain what that means what does "we were ALWAYS clear" mean?

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
Lol he said none of this. You are triggered and lying again. He said Jimmy will sign a small deal to get a better deal next year which is exactly what he did. You're literally just putting words in his mouth.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
No... I think he's perfectly content with getting cut, signing a small deal with a team that needs him, then having a chance to be a FA next year.

How did you/he not say this? Do you not now see that Jimmy doesn't want some 1-year prove it deal given no offseason with the team to prepare for it?

It'd easily put him in a much worse situation than he was in just 24 hours ago.

I mean,...are you getting this concept yet or no?

I don't know if this is breaking news to anyone or not, but, Jimmy is still here because he wants the chance to maximize his next deal.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
Lol he said none of this. You are triggered and lying again. He said Jimmy will sign a small deal to get a better deal next year which is exactly what he did. You're literally just putting words in his mouth.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
No... I think he's perfectly content with getting cut, signing a small deal with a team that needs him, then having a chance to be a FA next year.

How did you/he not say this? Do you not now see that Jimmy doesn't want some 1-year prove it deal given no offseason with the team to prepare for it?

It'd easily put him in a much worse situation than he was in just 24 hours ago.

I mean,...are you getting this concept yet or no?

He's a FA next year with a no franchise option, like Trey said. He signed a small deal like Trey said. I'm flabbergasted that this is difficult.

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
He's a FA next year with a no franchise option, like Trey said. He signed a small deal like Trey said. I'm flabbergasted that this is difficult.

He restructured his current deal so as to not get cut.

He was not content with getting cut (for reasons already repeated), which is what you claimed and was corrected on. Take the "L" my man. It's okay.

Originally posted by BangBang49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
"but we were always clear to Jimmy tha him salary cap-wise in a backup role and supporting Trey in that and if that worked for him, that was a no brainer for us. "

Lol c'mon dude. They left the door open the entire time as Ribs continually said Ribs was right, you as usual was flat out wrong.

It's kinda hard to hold TreyDey/Ribs accountable for for all of his swings and misses given all the names he's allowed to have.

What part of

"but we were always clear to Jimmytha him salary cap-wise in a backup role and supporting Trey in that and if that worked for him, that was a no brainer for us. "

Explain what that means what does "we were ALWAYS clear" mean?

clear as jimmy needed to take a pay cut to stay ?

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
He's a FA next year with a no franchise option, like Trey said. He signed a small deal like Trey said. I'm flabbergasted that this is difficult.

He restructured his current deal so as to not get cut.

He was not content with getting cut (for reasons already repeated), which is what you claimed and was corrected on. Take the "L" my man. It's okay.

Getting cut a week before the season is a bit different than becoming a free agent at the end of a season. This is obvious to anyone without a weird agenda.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
He's a FA next year with a no franchise option, like Trey said. He signed a small deal like Trey said. I'm flabbergasted that this is difficult.

He restructured his current deal so as to not get cut.

He was not content with getting cut. Take the "L" my man. It's okay.

Lol you're so triggered. Don't blame me that you are mad Jimmy will be in your dreams for an entire season like Ribs told ya was possible. If you have to lie about what was said, you are just reaching for someone to take your anger out on as always. I'm done with ya before one of us gets a to. Have a good night!

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I'm think about the fumbles. He really cut down on those in 2021.

To integrate trey's big arm means shanny has to change a lot of set-up concepts for the OZ.

I'm not an x and o's guy but I think it's more involved than you think.

Are u suggesting that the offense's design requires weaker-armed QBs?

By "weak armed" you mean "quicker release"?

As I was saying earlier, I think Jimmy will embrace the backup role and offer a tremendous amount of leadership to a young QB. I think this alone is just as big as anything. If Jimmy can be like an Alex to Mahomes it could really help in his development. I think Jimmy will embrace this role and be ready if Trey goes down.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
He's a FA next year with a no franchise option, like Trey said. He signed a small deal like Trey said. I'm flabbergasted that this is difficult.

He restructured his current deal so as to not get cut.

He was not content with getting cut (for reasons already repeated), which is what you claimed and was corrected on. Take the "L" my man. It's okay.

Getting cut a week before the season is a bit different than becoming a free agent at the end of a season. This is obvious to anyone without a weird agenda.

Lol you are lost at sea here. That was central to my point to Ribs/Trey from the very beginning.

Taking a 1-year prove it deal in September after 53 man cuts would NOT be beneficial to Jimmy on a new team with an average roster.

If he could get a solid 3 year deal or something like that then sure. But that clearly was not in the cards.

Dude said he'd be perfectly content with getting cut now and as we saw,....he was horribly wrong. It's okay.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Just like I said

#49ers HC Kyle Shanahan said QB Trey Lance was "great" about the prospect of Jimmy Garoppolo returning. The belief/hope is that Garoppolo will support Lance like Lance supported Garoppolo last year with roles reverse.

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) August 30, 2022

Actually what you said was:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Was Schefter trolling when he said Mac Jones was going to SF? Jimmy is trash and the league has spoken. Get him off the roster and move on

Lol still using the one comment from months ago to prove something….predictably not copying and pasting all the other posts I've stated, you know because that would crush your little fabricated world you've created about me….pathetic as usual.

You said plenty more than this and you know that. Just stop pretending that you don't hate Jimmy, we all know you do. Keep your same weird energy or admit you were wrong. But when you talk out of both sides of your mouth on a day to day basis, people are going to call you out. It's not just me either.

Bruh if anyone should admit they were wrong it should be posters like YOU that thought teams would be lining up to trade for Jimmy.

But myself and others kept trying to explain that Jimmy's one of the least desirable QBs on the market due to his contract, his skillset, and his injury.

You have a lot of nerve prentending you're unbiased and NY isn't when you can clearly see all the hating BS comments Lance has gotten from this move already and you've never once called them out. Hypocrite much?

I never said teams would be "lining up" to trade for Jimmy. Did I think there was a market? Yes, and I even made a bet. Happy to pay that debt if/when he's traded for less than a 2nd round pick. I have no problem admitting I was wrong. What I don't do is make one stance and then pretend that I had the opposite stance. You don't see me on here saying "see, I told you we couldn't trade Jimmy." So you make zero sense.

I still think Jimmy is a middle of the pack to slightly above average starting QB. Put him in that 13-18 category. Surround him with enough talent and he can win a Super Bowl. I still think someone will make a trade for him. If not, he'll be signed and start elsewhere and end up getting another big contract. I still believe all of those things. Just because none came true this off-season doesn't mean they will never come true or his career is over.

And yes, I've called out MANY of the Lance hater comments. The Lance haters are 10x worse than the Jimmy haters, because the kid has only played a couple of games and is 22 years old. He needs to be given plenty of opportunity to show what he can do.

Dude I'm sorry, but I don't know if you are understanding the point here. No one thought Jimmy would be around AT HIS 27 MILLION DOLLAR SALARY, and no one thought he'd EVER take a pay cut to remain here. The FIRST ONE, we were CLEARLY 100% right. Jimmy is not making $27 million dollars, is he? No, he's not. Thank you very much for us being right.

Now, Jimmy taking a massive pay cut? Who in the world thought he'd actually go for that? I admit I was wrong in thinking Jimmy would be bitter and unwilling to take a pay cut to be the 49ers back up. No shame in that.

But this is not what our main argument was. Our main argument was that he'd never be here AT TWENTY-SEVEN MILLION AS THE ANOINTED STARTED. Is he here at 27 million? Nope. Is he the starter? Nope. So we were right.

This comment has absolutely nothing to do with the exchange above. Reading comprehension matters.

Originally posted by BangBang49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
"but we were always clear to Jimmy tha him salary cap-wise in a backup role and supporting Trey in that and if that worked for him, that was a no brainer for us. "

Lol c'mon dude. They left the door open the entire time as Ribs continually said Ribs was right, you as usual was flat out wrong.

It's kinda hard to hold TreyDey/Ribs accountable for for all of his swings and misses given all the names he's allowed to have.

What part of

"but we were always clear to Jimmytha him salary cap-wise in a backup role and supporting Trey in that and if that worked for him, that was a no brainer for us. "

Explain what that means what does "we were ALWAYS clear" mean?

Not to get involved in this branch of the argument, but... Shanahan on why Jimmy wasn't at practice and at meetings:

"I think that was because the chances were, to me it seemed, slim to none, just with the possibility of that happening." <-referring to Jimmy being on the 49ers in 2022.

He said to Jimmy they'd love to have him as a backup if nothing happened with respect to trades, but he really truly believed he would not be a 49er. So even Shanahan thought it wouldn't happen, which is why he wasn't in meetings (he also mentioned the 24 million guaranteed if he got hurt).

NO ONE—not even Shanahan—realistically thought he'd be back except the people who thought he'd be the 49ers starter. Which he isn't.

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Now, regarding what Trey/Ribs said, it was that he'd sign a small deal TO START, in hopes of by STARTING and showing out he'd get another back. Unless I'm mistaken, Ribs/Trey did not think he'd be signing to be the backup. Which is what he did. Am I wrong on that?

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BangBang49er:
He's a FA next year with a no franchise option, like Trey said. He signed a small deal like Trey said. I'm flabbergasted that this is difficult.

He restructured his current deal so as to not get cut.

He was not content with getting cut (for reasons already repeated), which is what you claimed and was corrected on. Take the "L" my man. It's okay.

Getting cut a week before the season is a bit different than becoming a free agent at the end of a season. This is obvious to anyone without a weird agenda.

Lol you are lost at sea here. That was central to my point to Ribs/Trey from the very beginning.

Taking a 1-year prove it deal in September after 53 man cuts would NOT be beneficial to Jimmy on a new team with an average roster.

If he could get a solid 3 year deal or something like that then sure. But that clearly was not in the cards.

Dude said he'd be perfectly content with getting cut now and as we saw,....he was horribly wrong. It's okay.

I'm not lost at all. Jimmy has a very favorable contract now. If he does nothing, he gets paid nicely for a backup. If he plays, he gets paid nicely for a starter. He can't be traded unless he wants the trade. He can't be franchised. He's guaranteed to go into next season as a free agent, at the start of free agency. He has quite a bit of leverage now.

The Niners, Shanahan in particular, are doing a little damage control and acting like they got this "great deal" because they look like idiots. They overplayed their hand and waited too long to trade Jimmy, and risked him going to a division rival. And very possibly they're not as confident as they once were in Trey "learning on the run" so now they have a quality backup.

Anyone pretending that Jimmy is making out badly with this deal simply doesn't understand the business side of the NFL. He is a MUCH more attractive option for other teams now, both this season and next season.

Jimmy's not making out bad in this restructure (not deal) at all. If he were to have gotten cut and came back begging for a 1-year deal, you can kiss a number of those incentives goodbye.

That Supply & Demand curve runs the world.