Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by okdkid:
lol. Preseason don't count either.

We agree.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
Does jimmy g really suck ? Or is it just a preseason game after being sidelined with a major knee injury, for nearly a year. Man, if he really sucks we're in big trouble. I think i'll give him at least a few games in the regular season before I decide if he really sucks. Major overeaction in the zone to a preseason game. but ... that's just the nature of things in this micro wave world we live in. I'll make my decision in October. Like the interceptions, this is concerning but, the jury is still out. Patience

I am not so sure its an overreaction, he did not play well in the first 3 games of the season and now badly under performs in the 2nd pre seasion game. Its not about the INT or the stats, its the confidence, stepping into throws and looking like the leader. I did not get that vibe from him, OF note, it is not his fault that Shanahan did not allow him to stay in the game to establish his rhythm , make adjustments and gain some level of confidence.

lets just give it some time.....

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Lol
Dudes were in his face the min the ball was snapped.
Pretty tough to "make his OL look good" like that.

People forget what Ware and Von Miller did to Brady in the playoffs to go to the SB that year with Manning as QB?

A pass rush makes the best QB's look incompetent.

Our OLine sucks and has for years..
Got the same guys bashing some on here when it's pointed out asking the same b******t.. "who'd you took last year.."

It's not the 2019 picks, this Line should have been addressed since Kyle and Lynch walked into the door and I don't mean just McGlinch, I mean, every year.. games are won in the trenches yet we ignore the OL.. and don't give me the f**king list of crap this FO has Marched thru the front door the past few years for this OLine, it's been downright s**t for years and they ignored it..

Now it looks like the same ones bashing everyone, talking the "continuity the line will have" or my fav by NY, PFF ranked our line at like 13th! So we should shut up!!
Yet that same PFF ranked our run game at 31st!!!!

Now the same ones are making comments that "more should have been done" and they "wish they'd of done this or that.."
Lol
Just don't know how anyone could have been comfortable coming into this season with the same s**t for an OLine.. pathetic

great post.. puzzling why more can not see what you and others so clearly see

Originally posted by defenderDX:
it's definitely something worth nothing and being cognizant of, sure. I'll agree. concerning? come on, lol.

Agree to disagree. Jimmy didnt look great before he got hurt last year, missed almost a full season rehabbing, has had mixed reviews in camp so far, and played horrendous in his first preseason action.

If you add all that up, I dont understand why me and others saying it is "concerning" is some off the wall, outlandish opinion to have.

prolly one of the best dlines in the league so... We should give Jimmy a pass here .

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
it's definitely something worth nothing and being cognizant of, sure. I'll agree. concerning? come on, lol.

Agree to disagree. Jimmy didnt look great before he got hurt last year, missed almost a full season rehabbing, has had mixed reviews in camp so far, and played horrendous in his first preseason action.

If you add all that up, I dont understand why me and others saying it is "concerning" is some off the wall, outlandish opinion to have.

Fans love their QB. Need the dopamine rush when he does well. Easy to just sweep everything under the "Preseason don't matter" rug. Anybody who says otherwise is just a "hater", "over sensitive" or "not credible". The way of the 'zone.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Giedi:
You said nothing wrong. I just dont prefer to view the team the way you do. I think the facts say that he hasn't thrown in one year in a real game, and that is a great DLine that they played against. Von Miller and chub aren't Ian Williams or demarcus Dobbs. Also we didnt play a lot of our starting pass catchers or starting defenders. Also its preseason. So you can look at it half full or half empty. You can scare yourself silly or you can enjoy the fact that he's back and that our defense looks great. Up to you.

i think just saying, its only pre season and denver has a good defense is nothing but denial and deflection to a serious issue on our team . you could also call it sweeping it under the rug. its up to you

Yeah, says the guy who was convinced we couldn't sign Jimmy to a long term contract. Yeah I tried back then to help you look at it realistically, it didnt work then, so why bother now.

sure,. i was wrong about that. so what.. i was not wrong about our pass protection woes last year or so far this year. last year at this time. many were saying. the offensive line is not as bad as the chicken littles are saying. well no matter the qb last year we saw it was. so one year later the same things by the overly optimistic homers are being said. its only pre season. we are vanilla. denver has a good defense etc etc

It's not a question of right or wrong. Remember, I said you *didn't say anything wrong.* It's just looking at it negatively. Again, nothing wrong with that, but go ahead and scare yourself silly if you enjoy that. Personally, I'm not going out of my way to ruin my own day, thank you very much.

i am having a fine day.. you can be legit concerned about our line., a titch worried about jimmy and still have a fine day

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Argh, I hate to bring this dude up, but he mentioned something that also crossed my mind. Cohn mentioned that Jimmy had zero play-action passes last night.

Why?!

Just because someone is stupid, doesnt mean all of his thoughts are stupid.

That is one thing that drives me nuts about the anti-Grant Cohn people. Yes. overall he is a moron who says dumb things. But that doesnt mean everything he says needs to be dismissed.

Cohn was right on with his comments about Jimmy's lack of playaction last night. A very good point.

i wouldnt weigh too much into that after only like 7 pass attempts or less in a preseason/vanilla offensive game.

So you are saying that the lack of playaction last night, when our entire offense is predicated on outside zone and the playaction off of it, is not something worth noting? I think it was absolutely a valid point and kind of headscratching that we didnt see any of it.

no because I take preseason play-calling with a grain of salt and don't criticize the play-calling. what im looking for is player evaluation, and making sure no one gets hurt. all i give a s**t about. if we saw that in week 1? uh yeah, i'd be a little curious as to what the hell is going on when like you said; our offense is predicated around PA and the outside zone.

**edit the one thing I WILL criticize is the play-calling to help establish a rhythm for jimmy. the staff did him no favors either. I think Kyle even admitted that.

So with your edit, dont you think even ONE playaction pass playcall would have helped establish a rhythm for Jimmy? Because I do.

You also mentioned in this post that what you are looking for is player evaluation. Well on a previous page, you completely dismissed Jimmy's play last night because it was "only like 7 pass attempts or less in a preseason/vanilla offensive game."

So you are seemingly just making excuses and/or contradicting previous posts you made.

i shouldve specified. player-evaluation with newcomers/rookies people trying to make the team. im not worried about jimmy or the play-calling after 1 meaningless preseason game. however the coaching staff could've done a better job at helping him get into a rhythm.

I'm more concerned with Jimmys footwork than his stat line.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
it's definitely something worth nothing and being cognizant of, sure. I'll agree. concerning? come on, lol.

Agree to disagree. Jimmy didnt look great before he got hurt last year, missed almost a full season rehabbing, has had mixed reviews in camp so far, and played horrendous in his first preseason action.

If you add all that up, I dont understand why me and others saying it is "concerning" is some off the wall, outlandish opinion to have.

agree steve.. sadly people are just going to cherry pick your.. he was not great last year cut.. and rip you for it. lol. i am much more worried about the line than jimmy,., but last night jimmy was not a lilly white gq sexy victim. at least he will put on hold the hyper...... comeback man of the year 4000 yards 30 touchdown stuff

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Lol
Dudes were in his face the min the ball was snapped.
Pretty tough to "make his OL look good" like that.

People forget what Ware and Von Miller did to Brady in the playoffs to go to the SB that year with Manning as QB?

A pass rush makes the best QB's look incompetent.

Our OLine sucks and has for years..
Got the same guys bashing some on here when it's pointed out asking the same b******t.. "who'd you took last year.."

It's not the 2019 picks, this Line should have been addressed since Kyle and Lynch walked into the door and I don't mean just McGlinch, I mean, every year.. games are won in the trenches yet we ignore the OL.. and don't give me the f**king list of crap this FO has Marched thru the front door the past few years for this OLine, it's been downright s**t for years and they ignored it..

Now it looks like the same ones bashing everyone, talking the "continuity the line will have" or my fav by NY, PFF ranked our line at like 13th! So we should shut up!!
Yet that same PFF ranked our run game at 31st!!!!

Now the same ones are making comments that "more should have been done" and they "wish they'd of done this or that.."
Lol
Just don't know how anyone could have been comfortable coming into this season with the same s**t for an OLine.. pathetic

great post.. puzzling why more can not see what you and others so clearly see

I agree that they have ignored the weakness of the offensive line, but the inverse is true on the defensive line. The team's calculation seems to be that a dominant defense, anchored by a dominant defensive line, wins championships. Let Kyle Shanahan shore up a mediocre offensive unit with his creativity. This formula worked for Bill Walsh in the early years. We'll see this year if the equation still works. The interior offensive line looks like a sieve, and the defensive line may be tops in the NFL. I predict playoffs, but no championship this year until they improve that offensive line issue you identified (and it will be harder too because of Staley aging).

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
it's definitely something worth nothing and being cognizant of, sure. I'll agree. concerning? come on, lol.

Agree to disagree. Jimmy didnt look great before he got hurt last year, missed almost a full season rehabbing, has had mixed reviews in camp so far, and played horrendous in his first preseason action.

If you add all that up, I dont understand why me and others saying it is "concerning" is some off the wall, outlandish opinion to have.

you shouldn't be CONCERNED we didn't call any play-action passing. period. lol.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
it's definitely something worth nothing and being cognizant of, sure. I'll agree. concerning? come on, lol.

Agree to disagree. Jimmy didnt look great before he got hurt last year, missed almost a full season rehabbing, has had mixed reviews in camp so far, and played horrendous in his first preseason action.

If you add all that up, I dont understand why me and others saying it is "concerning" is some off the wall, outlandish opinion to have.

Fans love their QB. Need the dopamine rush when he does well. Easy to just sweep everything under the "Preseason don't matter" rug. Anybody who says otherwise is just a "hater", "over sensitive" or "not credible". The way of the 'zone.

so just because im not showing serious "concern" like some of you after his first game back I'm instead showing my love for him? I haven't demonstrated either side with my posting really. however i'm definitely not going to freak out about play-action passing in a preseason game lol

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Giedi:
You said nothing wrong. I just dont prefer to view the team the way you do. I think the facts say that he hasn't thrown in one year in a real game, and that is a great DLine that they played against. Von Miller and chub aren't Ian Williams or demarcus Dobbs. Also we didnt play a lot of our starting pass catchers or starting defenders. Also its preseason. So you can look at it half full or half empty. You can scare yourself silly or you can enjoy the fact that he's back and that our defense looks great. Up to you.

i think just saying, its only pre season and denver has a good defense is nothing but denial and deflection to a serious issue on our team . you could also call it sweeping it under the rug. its up to you

Yeah, says the guy who was convinced we couldn't sign Jimmy to a long term contract. Yeah I tried back then to help you look at it realistically, it didnt work then, so why bother now.

sure,. i was wrong about that. so what.. i was not wrong about our pass protection woes last year or so far this year. last year at this time. many were saying. the offensive line is not as bad as the chicken littles are saying. well no matter the qb last year we saw it was. so one year later the same things by the overly optimistic homers are being said. its only pre season. we are vanilla. denver has a good defense etc etc

It's not a question of right or wrong. Remember, I said you *didn't say anything wrong.* It's just looking at it negatively. Again, nothing wrong with that, but go ahead and scare yourself silly if you enjoy that. Personally, I'm not going out of my way to ruin my own day, thank you very much.

i am having a fine day.. you can be legit concerned about our line., a titch worried about jimmy and still have a fine day

It's true, some people do thrive on negativity. Seems to be working for you and others. Whatever makes you smile!

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by valrod33:
Its the 2nd preseason game of the year, You guys are looking into this way too much

maybe with jimmy.. but not with the offensive line in my opinion

I think you have to look at both. I get they didn't game plan but neither did Denver and they held him to 0 yards passing and an INT. That's concerning and hopefully it's the hole he digs out of over the next two games. Once the season starts teams are going to game plan against our run if he doesn't and force him to beat them.