QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville | Page 486

slowriot · 2017-04-28T20:36:13-07:00

"He processes the game so well, tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins" - head coach Kyle Shanahan HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 219LBS. ARM LENGTH: 30 5/8" HANDS: 9 3/8" DRAFT ANALYSIS: "C.J. Beathard had mostly fifth-, sixth-round grades from the teams I spoke with. Obviously has great NFL lineage, the Beathard name famous for talent evaluation, and I thought his tape was down a little bit this year. I thought he was better as a junior. Very smart, understands where to go with the football, better arm than expected when you really sit down and study him. I haven't seen him live, and the people who went to his Pro Day told me he had an excellent day." -- Mike Mayock OVERVIEW A lot of people know that the Hawkeyes' signal caller is the grandson of former NFL general manager Bobby Beathard -- but now C.J. is a father in own right after he and his girlfriend welcomed a girl (Lyla) into their world in December. He was the most prolific quarterback in Tennessee his final two years of high school (runner-up for one of the state's Mr. Football awards). As a redshirt freshman, Beathard played a little (9-27, TD, two INT) and the following year he saw the field more often (nine games, one start, 645 yards, five TD, two INT). He was given the reins of the offense as a junior, earning team MVP and second-team All-Big Ten honors by completing 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 pass yards, 17 touchdowns and just five interceptions. Beathard wasn't as effective as a senior (56.5 completion pct, 1,929 yards, 147TD, 10 INT) but is still considered a solid developmental prospect. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Played in pro-style passing attack, working under center and from shotgun. Capable and confident rolling out. Squares shoulders to deliver strikes. Completed 57 percent of his passes outside of the pocket at Iowa. Showed improved touch on short throws. Footwork and pocket mechanics look solid. Throws with some natural accuracy despite pedestrian completion percentage. Better tape in 2015 as he had to overcome injuries to key targets in 2016. Has the arm strength to throw the deep out without laboring. Trusts his line and keeps eyes downfield. Plays with relatively calm demeanor. Good feel and timing for screen game. Knee brace slowed him some during senior season, but he has ability to escape the heat. Team leader with ability to handle adversity. Won't take unnecessary chances. WEAKNESSES Hesitation is a noticeable issue. Often late to pull trigger on throws toward the sideline, forcing receivers into boundary and out of the catch. Slow field scanner who tends to lock into a single side. Too much eye-balling and not enough manipulating. Poor feel for pocket pressure. Two-year sack total of 58 is too high in play-action attack. Anchors deep in pocket and rarely climbs pocket to safe harbor. Oblivious to backside pressure until it's too late. Needs more air under the long ball. Deep-ball accuracy has been terrible. Completed under 30 percent of throws beyond 20 yards in last two seasons at Iowa. Completed just 43 percent of throws beyond line of scrimmage to right sideline. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7 NFL COMPARISON Tom Savage BOTTOM LINE Pro-style quarterback who dealt with nagging injuries to key pass catchers and himself in 2016. His 2015 tape was more impressive, but deep-ball accuracy issues, poor pocket awareness, and unnecessary hesitation as a passer shows up in both seasons. Beathard plays checkers with safeties rather than chess, which could always hinder his ability to attack down the field with success. Could be a career backup who finds himself in the action at some point down the road. -Lance Zierlein

Oct 2, 2018 at 9:26 AM

#7276

D0PEMAN
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Originally posted by valrod33:
If you cant see how much better Jimmy G is compared to CJ after this game then you are blind

Jimmy is straight BROKE, and CJ is indestructible and STILL playing. Maybe you're blind, dafaq

Oct 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM

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OnTheClock
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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by mutant-man49:
I'd be open to adding Dez if this squad is going to remain competitive with CJ at the helm. We need another weapon as Garçon looks done.

As much as I hate to say it, I would be too now. It's amazing how Garcon went from a star last year to a ghost. He is an elite blocker still but his hands aren't there anymore and I think his prior injury has him more worried about hits so I just don't think the focus is there anymore. I guess age really did a number on him in a hurry.

I agree. Was excited as f**k to have Garçon brought back to our offense but it just isn't working out. Not sure if Dez is crazy about coming here anymore. He wanted to be here when we were a hyped team with jimmy. Now we're 1-3 with our back up lol.

The other thing is, we couldn't add someone if we even wanted to right now with all the short term injury uncertainty. There's not a roster spot open really.

Oct 2, 2018 at 11:08 AM

#7278

Joecool
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Originally posted by valrod33:
If you cant see how much better Jimmy G is compared to CJ after this game then you are blind

Depends on in what way. CJ appears to have better command of the system than JG did. JG looked like he wasn't sure where the read should go and was a statue back there at times.

Throwing ability, there's no comparison, JG has no ceiling and CJ is limited.

Oct 2, 2018 at 11:10 AM

#7279

Mertonschickendance
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CJ may have a better deep ball than JG...maybe

Oct 2, 2018 at 3:44 PM

#7280

Afrikan
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Originally posted by thl408:
3rd & 7. Take a hit to make a play

first I thought it was the guard, but did the rook f**k that up?

looked like Juice was there to pick up the outside, with the tackle shifting over

Oct 2, 2018 at 3:46 PM

#7281

bud49
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I will say I like me a pocket passer, the only thing CJ needs to work on is pocket awareness he needs to learn how to slide and step up.

Oct 2, 2018 at 4:36 PM

#7282

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Originally posted by valrod33:
If you cant see how much better Jimmy G is compared to CJ after this game then you are blind

He is so good he ran down the sideline and blew his knee out without contact

Oct 3, 2018 at 4:25 AM

#7283

Goatie
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Originally posted by Natedog:

Originally posted by valrod33:
If you cant see how much better Jimmy G is compared to CJ after this game then you are blind

He is so good he ran down the sideline and blew his knee out without contact

What Jimmy did was not smart. He should have run out rather then try and gain two or three extra yards. But Jimmy is still better then CJ.

With that said CJ did a good job considering 3 of the Oline had bung knees and considering it is his first proper game since last year. He aint no Jimmy but as a rookie he is better for us then Kap and Gabbert by a long way. He has some guts and some skill. He will get even better.

[ Edited by Goatie on Oct 3, 2018 at 4:26 AM ]

Oct 3, 2018 at 8:39 AM

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Love this! C.J. Beathard walks the @49ers #CrucialCatch runway with 2 year old cancer survivor, Tatum 💪🏽 @nflnetwork pic.twitter.com/JxBeilsIdt
— MJ Acosta (@MJAcostaTV) October 3, 2018

Oct 3, 2018 at 8:41 AM

#7285

Ensatsu
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Originally posted by NCommand:

Love this! C.J. Beathard walks the @49ers #CrucialCatch runway with 2 year old cancer survivor, Tatum 💪🏽 @nflnetwork pic.twitter.com/JxBeilsIdt
— MJ Acosta (@MJAcostaTV) October 3, 2018

that's my QB

Oct 3, 2018 at 8:45 AM

#7286

Debryune
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Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Love this! C.J. Beathard walks the @49ers #CrucialCatch runway with 2 year old cancer survivor, Tatum 💪🏽 @nflnetwork pic.twitter.com/JxBeilsIdt
— MJ Acosta (@MJAcostaTV) October 3, 2018

that's my QB

CJ is cool.

Is the other one still with his Porn Star GF?

[ Edited by Debryune on Oct 3, 2018 at 8:45 AM ]

Oct 3, 2018 at 10:21 AM

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"How did Beathard deal with not always knowing what he just called in a huddle as a rookie last season?

"You just kind of try and put some of the key words together," Beathard explained. "'Ok, I know this guy, he's got an out route. Hopefully, he gets open.'"

Fantastic...

Good to know young QB's dont even know what the heck is going on, and are just praying the one route they remember gets open.

[ Edited by Niners99 on Oct 3, 2018 at 10:21 AM ]

Oct 3, 2018 at 10:45 AM

#7288

Empire49
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Originally posted by Natedog:

Originally posted by valrod33:
If you cant see how much better Jimmy G is compared to CJ after this game then you are blind

He is so good he ran down the sideline and blew his knee out without contact

Which has what to do with how good he is as a QB?

"Dude got injured! He SUCKS!"

Oct 3, 2018 at 10:55 AM

#7289

Empire49
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Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Starting to think we overpaid Jimmy. CJ isn't that far off, and plus he's more durable.

What does Jimmy really have over CJ besides his handsome looks and rah-rah leadership?

He has the following over CJ: the ability to read defenses, ability to improv, ability to go through progressions (this is where CJ really lacks), a quicker release, more pocket awareness, he's a better leader & motivator, better decision-maker... do you need more?

This is not to say BeatHard is way behind Jimmy in every category, but you have to be joking if you think they're in the same tier.

Oct 3, 2018 at 10:59 AM

#7290

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Originally posted by Natedog:

Originally posted by valrod33:
If you cant see how much better Jimmy G is compared to CJ after this game then you are blind

He is so good he ran down the sideline and blew his knee out without contact

Do you understand how silly this sounds? Come on 'dog', you need to step up your game to have any credibility at all.