QB CJ Beathard - signs with Jacksonville | Page 485

slowriot · 2017-04-28T20:36:13-07:00

"He processes the game so well, tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins" - head coach Kyle Shanahan HEIGHT: 6'2" WEIGHT: 219LBS. ARM LENGTH: 30 5/8" HANDS: 9 3/8" DRAFT ANALYSIS: "C.J. Beathard had mostly fifth-, sixth-round grades from the teams I spoke with. Obviously has great NFL lineage, the Beathard name famous for talent evaluation, and I thought his tape was down a little bit this year. I thought he was better as a junior. Very smart, understands where to go with the football, better arm than expected when you really sit down and study him. I haven't seen him live, and the people who went to his Pro Day told me he had an excellent day." -- Mike Mayock OVERVIEW A lot of people know that the Hawkeyes' signal caller is the grandson of former NFL general manager Bobby Beathard -- but now C.J. is a father in own right after he and his girlfriend welcomed a girl (Lyla) into their world in December. He was the most prolific quarterback in Tennessee his final two years of high school (runner-up for one of the state's Mr. Football awards). As a redshirt freshman, Beathard played a little (9-27, TD, two INT) and the following year he saw the field more often (nine games, one start, 645 yards, five TD, two INT). He was given the reins of the offense as a junior, earning team MVP and second-team All-Big Ten honors by completing 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 pass yards, 17 touchdowns and just five interceptions. Beathard wasn't as effective as a senior (56.5 completion pct, 1,929 yards, 147TD, 10 INT) but is still considered a solid developmental prospect. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Played in pro-style passing attack, working under center and from shotgun. Capable and confident rolling out. Squares shoulders to deliver strikes. Completed 57 percent of his passes outside of the pocket at Iowa. Showed improved touch on short throws. Footwork and pocket mechanics look solid. Throws with some natural accuracy despite pedestrian completion percentage. Better tape in 2015 as he had to overcome injuries to key targets in 2016. Has the arm strength to throw the deep out without laboring. Trusts his line and keeps eyes downfield. Plays with relatively calm demeanor. Good feel and timing for screen game. Knee brace slowed him some during senior season, but he has ability to escape the heat. Team leader with ability to handle adversity. Won't take unnecessary chances. WEAKNESSES Hesitation is a noticeable issue. Often late to pull trigger on throws toward the sideline, forcing receivers into boundary and out of the catch. Slow field scanner who tends to lock into a single side. Too much eye-balling and not enough manipulating. Poor feel for pocket pressure. Two-year sack total of 58 is too high in play-action attack. Anchors deep in pocket and rarely climbs pocket to safe harbor. Oblivious to backside pressure until it's too late. Needs more air under the long ball. Deep-ball accuracy has been terrible. Completed under 30 percent of throws beyond 20 yards in last two seasons at Iowa. Completed just 43 percent of throws beyond line of scrimmage to right sideline. DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6-7 NFL COMPARISON Tom Savage BOTTOM LINE Pro-style quarterback who dealt with nagging injuries to key pass catchers and himself in 2016. His 2015 tape was more impressive, but deep-ball accuracy issues, poor pocket awareness, and unnecessary hesitation as a passer shows up in both seasons. Beathard plays checkers with safeties rather than chess, which could always hinder his ability to attack down the field with success. Could be a career backup who finds himself in the action at some point down the road. -Lance Zierlein

Oct 1, 2018 at 4:44 PM

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jersey49er
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Protect him and he's a good QB ! That's exactly what I saw yesterday ! And 1 more thing, CJ pleaseeee slide, please stop allowing yourself to get rocked, I love your heart but use your head lol

Oct 1, 2018 at 6:43 PM

#7262

cciowa
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by cciowa:
Should have never counted on a 30 plus wide out coming back from a broken neck

Uh, didn't we draft two WR's including trading up for one?

wasted two picks getting pettis. the nfl figured out taylor so he is a waste of a roster spot

Oct 1, 2018 at 6:50 PM

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jcs
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by mutant-man49:
I'd be open to adding Dez if this squad is going to remain competitive with CJ at the helm. We need another weapon as Garçon looks done.

As much as I hate to say it, I would be too now. It's amazing how Garcon went from a star last year to a ghost. He is an elite blocker still but his hands aren't there anymore and I think his prior injury has him more worried about hits so I just don't think the focus is there anymore. I guess age really did a number on him in a hurry.

Garcon is our #2 receiver statistically behind Kittle. What's more worrisome to me is the ghost that is M.Goodwin...4 games in and he only has 54 yards receiving.

Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 PM

#7264

captveg
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Originally posted by jcs:
Garcon is our #2 receiver statistically behind Kittle. What's more worrisome to me is the ghost that is M.Goodwin...4 games in and he only has 54 yards receiving.

He's been fighting leg injuries since the first game, which impacts his biggest advantage (speed).

Oct 1, 2018 at 7:37 PM

#7265

GhostOfBaalke
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by mutant-man49:
I'd be open to adding Dez if this squad is going to remain competitive with CJ at the helm. We need another weapon as Garçon looks done.

As much as I hate to say it, I would be too now. It's amazing how Garcon went from a star last year to a ghost. He is an elite blocker still but his hands aren't there anymore and I think his prior injury has him more worried about hits so I just don't think the focus is there anymore. I guess age really did a number on him in a hurry.

I agree. Was excited as f**k to have Garçon brought back to our offense but it just isn't working out. Not sure if Dez is crazy about coming here anymore. He wanted to be here when we were a hyped team with jimmy. Now we're 1-3 with our back up lol.

Oct 1, 2018 at 7:41 PM

#7266

NCommand
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Originally posted by jersey49er:
Protect him and he's a good QB ! That's exactly what I saw yesterday ! And 1 more thing, CJ pleaseeee slide, please stop allowing yourself to get rocked, I love your heart but use your head lol

This

Oct 1, 2018 at 10:48 PM

#7267

thl408
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3rd & 7. Take a hit to make a play

Oct 1, 2018 at 11:58 PM

#7268

SanDiego49er
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I'm actually surprised how good he looks. He makes good reads, throws an accurate ball, has good arm strength, has decent mobility, and is big enough. He made great strides since last year. He looks like a real NFL QB.

Oct 2, 2018 at 12:02 AM

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mayo49
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I'm actually surprised how good he looks. He makes good reads, throws an accurate ball, has good arm strength, has decent mobility, and is big enough. He made great strides since last year. He looks like a real NFL QB.

I saw the same thing last year - except he was getting killed and was constantly getting pressure because of our lousy OL. Now, he's got a little more time to throw and he's showing what he can do.

[ Edited by mayo49 on Oct 2, 2018 at 9:16 AM ]

Oct 2, 2018 at 12:15 AM

#7270

brodiebluebanaszak
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He did well. The two picks werent really on him.

Hes our 1.37M man.

Oct 2, 2018 at 7:28 AM

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qnnhan7
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Originally posted by thl408:
3rd & 7. Take a hit to make a play

It's always nice to see a qb knowing where to go with the ball before his guy got there --anticipation. And taking the hit.

Jimmy wow you with the quick release and we all goo goo gaga. But CJ ain't far away. He's real close.

CJ seeing holes in the defense like Jimmy sees in Kiara Mia

[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Oct 2, 2018 at 7:31 AM ]

Oct 2, 2018 at 7:43 AM

#7272

D0PEMAN
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Starting to think we overpaid Jimmy. CJ isn't that far off, and plus he's more durable.

What does Jimmy really have over CJ besides his handsome looks and rah-rah leadership?

Oct 2, 2018 at 8:09 AM

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valrod33
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If you cant see how much better Jimmy G is compared to CJ after this game then you are blind

Oct 2, 2018 at 8:37 AM

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Debryune
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Originally posted by valrod33:
If you cant see how much better Jimmy G is compared to CJ after this game then you are blind

CJ did about the same with a more injured/banged up offense. (After one game) He doesn't appear as far off as he did last year.

[ Edited by Debryune on Oct 2, 2018 at 8:37 AM ]

Oct 2, 2018 at 8:41 AM

#7275

Bluesbro
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I'm actually surprised how good he looks. He makes good reads, throws an accurate ball, has good arm strength, has decent mobility, and is big enough. He made great strides since last year. He looks like a real NFL QB.

You are surprised that a rookie that got playing time last year and had another training camp to mature, and that has a bit more talent around him, has gotten better? He flashed too many times last year to not think that he is NFL material.