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Originally posted by JamesGatz83:Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:Originally posted by JamesGatz83:Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
How long did it take James Harrison to crack the 53? He was cut by Pitt and Baltimore numerous times before finally sticking on the roster. Maybe Rush is just a late bloomer
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:How long did it take James Harrison to crack the 53? He was cut by Pitt and Baltimore numerous times before finally sticking on the roster. Maybe Rush is just a late bloomer
dude was labeled a undersized LB as well.
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
How long did it take James Harrison to crack the 53? He was cut by Pitt and Baltimore numerous times before finally sticking on the roster. Maybe Rush is just a late bloomer
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
James Harrison was a UDFA LB who spent yrs on and off the pratice squad in Pitt he then went to Baltimore and NFL Europe after...he got a second chance with Pitt (who thought he was two short and small for LB) and not until Tomlin took over in 2007 did he finally get a chance and he never looked back...sometimes all you need is a chance or a player to get hurt/suspended to have an opportunity, Tom Brady and romo would agree...
It's not like he sucked in college
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2420336-2015-nfl-draft-why-msus-marcus-rush-is-the-best-player-no-one-is-talking-about
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
How long did it take James Harrison to crack the 53? He was cut by Pitt and Baltimore numerous times before finally sticking on the roster. Maybe Rush is just a late bloomer
For every James Harrison, there are thousands of similar guys who never amounted to anything.
I guess we'll see, but the overwhelming likelihood is that Rush is nothing more than a preseason hero who joins the ranks of Kory Sheets, Nate Davis, LaVelle Hawkins, and Glenn Winston in the Webzone Preseason HOF.
Even if he makes the roster, he's probably getting cut as soon as Lynch comes off suspension. I'd like to see him against first-team OLs, but we won't get that chance tonight unfortunately.
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
How long did it take James Harrison to crack the 53? He was cut by Pitt and Baltimore numerous times before finally sticking on the roster. Maybe Rush is just a late bloomer
For every James Harrison, there are thousands of similar guys who never amounted to anything.
I guess we'll see, but the overwhelming likelihood is that Rush is nothing more than a preseason hero who joins the ranks of Kory Sheets, Nate Davis, LaVelle Hawkins, and Glenn Winston in the Webzone Preseason HOF.
Even if he makes the roster, he's probably getting cut as soon as Lynch comes off suspension. I'd like to see him against first-team OLs, but we won't get that chance tonight unfortunately.
Agree, the odds are certainly against him but he has shown in two consecutive years that he can get to the passer. He destroyed Denver's 2's this year with 2 sacks and a forced fumble so it's not like he is doing all of his work vs the 4th QTR scrubs. Those other guys (all offensive guys) taking advantage of undisciplined defenses is a little different than a pass rusher wearing out 2s, 3s and 4s whenever he steps on the field. We will see what happens....I'd much rather see him on the 53 than the Lemon man
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
How long did it take James Harrison to crack the 53? He was cut by Pitt and Baltimore numerous times before finally sticking on the roster. Maybe Rush is just a late bloomer
For every James Harrison, there are thousands of similar guys who never amounted to anything.
I guess we'll see, but the overwhelming likelihood is that Rush is nothing more than a preseason hero who joins the ranks of Kory Sheets, Nate Davis, LaVelle Hawkins, and Glenn Winston in the Webzone Preseason HOF.
Even if he makes the roster, he's probably getting cut as soon as Lynch comes off suspension. I'd like to see him against first-team OLs, but we won't get that chance tonight unfortunately.
Agree, the odds are certainly against him but he has shown in two consecutive years that he can get to the passer. He destroyed Denver's 2's this year with 2 sacks and a forced fumble so it's not like he is doing all of his work vs the 4th QTR scrubs. Those other guys (all offensive guys) taking advantage of undisciplined defenses is a little different than a pass rusher wearing out 2s, 3s and 4s whenever he steps on the field. We will see what happens....I'd much rather see him on the 53 than the Lemon man
I don't know. Lemonier is a year younger, has way more experience against ones, has played in real NFL games, and is way more effective against the run. But he's also been completely useless as a pass rusher.
I don't think it matters really. Either one is likely gone after week 4.
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
How long did it take James Harrison to crack the 53? He was cut by Pitt and Baltimore numerous times before finally sticking on the roster. Maybe Rush is just a late bloomer
For every James Harrison, there are thousands of similar guys who never amounted to anything.
I guess we'll see, but the overwhelming likelihood is that Rush is nothing more than a preseason hero who joins the ranks of Kory Sheets, Nate Davis, LaVelle Hawkins, and Glenn Winston in the Webzone Preseason HOF.
Even if he makes the roster, he's probably getting cut as soon as Lynch comes off suspension. I'd like to see him against first-team OLs, but we won't get that chance tonight unfortunately.
Agree, the odds are certainly against him but he has shown in two consecutive years that he can get to the passer. He destroyed Denver's 2's this year with 2 sacks and a forced fumble so it's not like he is doing all of his work vs the 4th QTR scrubs. Those other guys (all offensive guys) taking advantage of undisciplined defenses is a little different than a pass rusher wearing out 2s, 3s and 4s whenever he steps on the field. We will see what happens....I'd much rather see him on the 53 than the Lemon man
I don't know. Lemonier is a year younger, has way more experience against ones, has played in real NFL games, and is way more effective against the run. But he's also been completely useless as a pass rusher.
I don't think it matters really. Either one is likely gone after week 4.
Lemonier has more experience and absolutely nothing to show for it. Dude was playing late in the 4th QTR of a preseason game as a 3rd round pick in his 3rd year in the league and STILL not making plays. There is no way he makes it over Rush....not with this coaching staff. No way. He may be better vs the run than Rush but between Harold, Tank and Brooks, we should be fine setting the edge. We need a guy that can come in on 3rd down or passing situations in general and put heat on the QB and Lemonier is certainly not that guy
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by JamesGatz83:Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
James Harrison was a UDFA LB who spent yrs on and off the pratice squad in Pitt he then went to Baltimore and NFL Europe after...he got a second chance with Pitt (who thought he was two short and small for LB) and not until Tomlin took over in 2007 did he finally get a chance and he never looked back...sometimes all you need is a chance or a player to get hurt/suspended to have an opportunity, Tom Brady and romo would agree...
It's not like he sucked in college
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2420336-2015-nfl-draft-why-msus-marcus-rush-is-the-best-player-no-one-is-talking-about
He didn't suck, but he wasn't exactly a force either. Best year came as a 23-year-old senior playing opposite the far more talented Shilique Calhoun.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
James Harrison was a UDFA LB who spent yrs on and off the pratice squad in Pitt he then went to Baltimore and NFL Europe after...he got a second chance with Pitt (who thought he was two short and small for LB) and not until Tomlin took over in 2007 did he finally get a chance and he never looked back...sometimes all you need is a chance or a player to get hurt/suspended to have an opportunity, Tom Brady and romo would agree...
It's not like he sucked in college
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2420336-2015-nfl-draft-why-msus-marcus-rush-is-the-best-player-no-one-is-talking-about
He didn't suck, but he wasn't exactly a force either. Best year came as a 23-year-old senior playing opposite the far more talented Shilique Calhoun.
You read any of that article I posted lol? Also no one is saying he's the next von Miller but he's always had a nack at getting to the QB...who doesn't want that?
Eveyone talks about his limitations but he's the same size as Vic Beasley who was a top 10 pick the same yr...all I want is a good rotation at pass rush because there's gonna be a lot of snaps and I'll take a guy who can get some pressure vs lemonade who can't.
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Well, he kind of is. Guy is 25 and he's never even cracked a 53. Nobody was rushing out to sign him off our practice squad last year.
Sure, he looks great rushing the passer against 3rd and 4th string OLs, but he's pretty limited.
How long did it take James Harrison to crack the 53? He was cut by Pitt and Baltimore numerous times before finally sticking on the roster. Maybe Rush is just a late bloomer
For every James Harrison, there are thousands of similar guys who never amounted to anything.
I guess we'll see, but the overwhelming likelihood is that Rush is nothing more than a preseason hero who joins the ranks of Kory Sheets, Nate Davis, LaVelle Hawkins, and Glenn Winston in the Webzone Preseason HOF.
Even if he makes the roster, he's probably getting cut as soon as Lynch comes off suspension. I'd like to see him against first-team OLs, but we won't get that chance tonight unfortunately.
Agree, the odds are certainly against him but he has shown in two consecutive years that he can get to the passer. He destroyed Denver's 2's this year with 2 sacks and a forced fumble so it's not like he is doing all of his work vs the 4th QTR scrubs. Those other guys (all offensive guys) taking advantage of undisciplined defenses is a little different than a pass rusher wearing out 2s, 3s and 4s whenever he steps on the field. We will see what happens....I'd much rather see him on the 53 than the Lemon man
I don't know. Lemonier is a year younger, has way more experience against ones, has played in real NFL games, and is way more effective against the run. But he's also been completely useless as a pass rusher.
I don't think it matters really. Either one is likely gone after week 4.
Lemonier has more experience and absolutely nothing to show for it. Dude was playing late in the 4th QTR of a preseason game as a 3rd round pick in his 3rd year in the league and STILL not making plays. There is no way he makes it over Rush....not with this coaching staff. No way. He may be better vs the run than Rush but between Harold, Tank and Brooks, we should be fine setting the edge. We need a guy that can come in on 3rd down or passing situations in general and put heat on the QB and Lemonier is certainly not that guy
Fair. Again, though, I don't think it matters. Either one is cut after week 4.
And I'd rather have Brooks and Carradine in on 3rd downs than Rush.
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:Yeah, I've seen it before. I watch a ton of college football and I was very familiar with Rush before he even became a 49er. He had 7.5 sacks as a senior playing on a loaded defense. He was a solid Big 10 DE. Regardless of the B/R hyperbole, that's about it.
This happens every year it seems. Last year it was Glenn Winston. Before that it was LaVelle Hawkins. People never seem to learn that preseason production means exactly nothing.
That said, I'm all for giving Rush a 4-game tryout. I don't know how much run he's going to get, though, since I'd rather have Brooks, Carradine, and Harold on the field instead of him, even in obvious passing situations.