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Originally posted by DASeiler49:
I've said it several times. My friend pointed out early in 2012, that Kaep didn't read the defense before the snap. I shrugged it off thinking he would grow into that. Fast forward to 2014 the year before the off the field stuff. We are playing the Rams and they don't have a DB on Torrey Smith. He was doing jumping jacks trying to get Kaeps attention. What does Kaep do? Run the ball up the gut for a yard or 2, could have been a 95 yard Td. That was the moment I gave up on him. That had nothing to do with the OL, receivers, or the injured defense. That was a QB too lazy to do his job and look over the defensive alignment. And that's not even going into his inability to read the defense after the ball is snapped.

Lmao if you honestly think Kap went through his career without looking at the defense pre snap.
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Originally posted by Zachary:
Originally posted by HERN:
Still hurts me that he didn't pan out that way I thought.

I was st the draft party. Place erupted with joy

Hey I was there too! The best thing that year was hearing Darius... Heyward... Bey followed by screams of horror from Raider fans. lol
[ Edited by Waterbear on Apr 2, 2019 at 10:43 AM ]
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Zachary:
Originally posted by HERN:
Still hurts me that he didn't pan out that way I thought.

I was st the draft party. Place erupted with joy

Hey I was there too! The best thing that year was hearing Darius... Heyward... Bey followed by screams of horror from Raider fans. lol

Man I thought he was one of the biggest steals of all time lol i was young at the time but I was still very excited.

Injuries and his personality imo really brought him down.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
I've said it several times. My friend pointed out early in 2012, that Kaep didn't read the defense before the snap. I shrugged it off thinking he would grow into that. Fast forward to 2014 the year before the off the field stuff. We are playing the Rams and they don't have a DB on Torrey Smith. He was doing jumping jacks trying to get Kaeps attention. What does Kaep do? Run the ball up the gut for a yard or 2, could have been a 95 yard Td. That was the moment I gave up on him. That had nothing to do with the OL, receivers, or the injured defense. That was a QB too lazy to do his job and look over the defensive alignment. And that's not even going into his inability to read the defense after the ball is snapped.

Lmao if you honestly think Kap went through his career without looking at the defense pre snap.

Didn't say he never did. But the proof is in the pudding there, friend.
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Didn't say he never did. But the proof is in the pudding there, friend.

It's really not. Showing me multiple plays where he didn't scan the field would be proof.

One meaningless play in a lost season (he was playing with 3 different injuries at that point also) does not prove he wasn't reading the defense throughout his career. It proves he was broken mentally, physically, and had given up on Tomsula/the season, but it does not prove what you want it to prove.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Didn't say he never did. But the proof is in the pudding there, friend.

It's really not. Showing me multiple plays where he didn't scan the field would be proof.

One meaningless play in a lost season (he was playing with 3 different injuries at that point also) does not prove he wasn't reading the defense throughout his career. It proves he was broken mentally, physically, and had given up on Tomsula/the season, but it does not prove what you want it to prove.

Nope. No point. You've made up your mind. I've made up mine. Dont need to site a bunch of plays. That moment I talked about was the last straw after what I saw from his last season with Harbaugh up to that point.

I respect your reasoning, though completely disagree. Also wanted to apologize for turning the Crabtree thread into a Kaep thread.
[ Edited by DASeiler49 on Apr 2, 2019 at 5:49 PM ]
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Didn't say he never did. But the proof is in the pudding there, friend.

It's really not. Showing me multiple plays where he didn't scan the field would be proof.

One meaningless play in a lost season (he was playing with 3 different injuries at that point also) does not prove he wasn't reading the defense throughout his career. It proves he was broken mentally, physically, and had given up on Tomsula/the season, but it does not prove what you want it to prove.

Nope. No point. You've made up your mind. I've made up mine. Dont need to site a bunch of plays. That moment I talked about was the last straw after what I saw from his last season with Harbaugh up to that point.

I respect your reasoning, though completely disagree. Also wanted to apologize for turning the Crabtree thread into a Kaep thread.

You didnt. A usual suspect did, but like usual, his posts seem to get a pass from mods.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by DASeiler49:
Didn't say he never did. But the proof is in the pudding there, friend.

It's really not. Showing me multiple plays where he didn't scan the field would be proof.

One meaningless play in a lost season (he was playing with 3 different injuries at that point also) does not prove he wasn't reading the defense throughout his career. It proves he was broken mentally, physically, and had given up on Tomsula/the season, but it does not prove what you want it to prove.

Nope. No point. You've made up your mind. I've made up mine. Dont need to site a bunch of plays. That moment I talked about was the last straw after what I saw from his last season with Harbaugh up to that point.

I respect your reasoning, though completely disagree. Also wanted to apologize for turning the Crabtree thread into a Kaep thread.

You didnt. A usual suspect did, but like usual, his posts seem to get a pass from mods.

I will try to avoid the bait in the future:)
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Lmao if you honestly think Kap went through his career without looking at the defense pre snap.

Kap was trash so was Crabtree, why both are not on any NFL team and that's a fact.
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Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Lmao if you honestly think Kap went through his career without looking at the defense pre snap.

Kap was trash so was Crabtree, why both are not on any NFL team and that's a fact.

one has nothing to do with the other, crabs did some nice things at times but was not clutch, sherman was right all along about him
Has Crabtree signed anywhere yet?
Crabs should apply with the Pats for low money. He'll have a stellar year for sure. Esp with a SB win. Then the next year go for the big bucks. (SB winner , sure hands, top pick etc)
Let's drop the toxic QB and get back to a kinda toxic receiver

..it's silly looking back now but when he was first drafted some were comparing him to Jerry Rice, which was an emotional reaction, "steal of the draft, how can the arguably best player in the draft slide all the way to 10?!?!" (Turns out that was an awful draft ) Then he did that stupid hold out all the way to the fourth game of the season that accomplished nothing besides making him look like a dumbass, I guess he gave in after the team started 3-1. I was expecting/hoping he would have a similar career as Dez Bryant, but turns out he was more of a broke version. Outside of low key throwing his QBs under the bus a couple times, he didn't really say or do anything too controversial, but you can tell from his body language during games that he was miserable unless he was getting his. He wanted to be looked as like he was some Terrell Owens, Larry Fitzgerald Julio Jones,etc calibrar reciever, he thought of himself as "King s**t" even though his NFL career has been...mostly average and unclutch in big moments.(funny when you remember that last play vs Texas in 2008), opposing players can sense his fakeness which is why guys like Richard Sherman and Aqib Talib punked him during games. Now he's past his athletic prime, a journeyman player looking for his forth team in 6 years, and the only thing he has on his resume worth mentioning is that he passed the 1,000 yards mark twice (barely). nobody will remember his unremarkable NFL career

you reap what you sow
[ Edited by Aj_hwd954 on Apr 4, 2019 at 10:24 AM ]
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Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Let's drop the toxic QB and get back to a kinda toxic receiver

..it's silly looking back now but when he was first drafted some were comparing him to Jerry Rice, which was an emotional reaction, "steal of the draft, how can the arguably best player in the draft slide all the way to 10?!?!" (Turns out that was an awful draft ) Then he did that stupid hold out all the way to the fourth game of the season that accomplished nothing besides making him look like a dumbass, I guess he gave in after the team started 3-1. I was expecting/hoping he would have a similar career as Dez Bryant, but turns out he was more of a broke version. Outside of low key throwing his QBs under the bus a couple times, he didn't really say or do anything too controversial, but you can tell from his body language during games that he was miserable unless he was getting his. He wanted to be looked as like he was some Terrell Owens, Larry Fitzgerald Julio Jones,etc calibrar reciever, he thought of himself as "King s**t" even though his NFL career has been...mostly average and unclutch in big moments.(funny when you remember that last play vs Texas in 2008), opposing players can sense his fakeness which is why guys like Richard Sherman and Aqib Talib punked him during games. Now he's past his athletic prime, a journeyman player looking for his forth team in 6 years, and the only thing he has on his resume worth mentioning is that he passed the 1,000 yards mark twice (barely). nobody will remember his unremarkable NFL career

you reap what you sow

Dang. the things we could have done with boldin instead of crabtree in 2011 and 2012 as our main man
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Let's drop the toxic QB and get back to a kinda toxic receiver

..it's silly looking back now but when he was first drafted some were comparing him to Jerry Rice, which was an emotional reaction, "steal of the draft, how can the arguably best player in the draft slide all the way to 10?!?!" (Turns out that was an awful draft ) Then he did that stupid hold out all the way to the fourth game of the season that accomplished nothing besides making him look like a dumbass, I guess he gave in after the team started 3-1. I was expecting/hoping he would have a similar career as Dez Bryant, but turns out he was more of a broke version. Outside of low key throwing his QBs under the bus a couple times, he didn't really say or do anything too controversial, but you can tell from his body language during games that he was miserable unless he was getting his. He wanted to be looked as like he was some Terrell Owens, Larry Fitzgerald Julio Jones,etc calibrar reciever, he thought of himself as "King s**t" even though his NFL career has been...mostly average and unclutch in big moments.(funny when you remember that last play vs Texas in 2008), opposing players can sense his fakeness which is why guys like Richard Sherman and Aqib Talib punked him during games. Now he's past his athletic prime, a journeyman player looking for his forth team in 6 years, and the only thing he has on his resume worth mentioning is that he passed the 1,000 yards mark twice (barely). nobody will remember his unremarkable NFL career

you reap what you sow

Spot on and seething. Crabs was a good number 2 or a great number 3 in his prime. He regularly got wrecked in high pressure moments and was full of fake swag his entire time here. His best routes were comeback short 6-10 yarders and he would immediately get tackled right after the catch. He talked a lot of trash for never taking over a game.
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