Should the NFL take steps to reduce crowd noise in stadiums

Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

At what point will the league step in to stop the fans from affecting the game?

it's a penalty in the NFL rulebook

When, in the judgment of the Referee, the level of crowd noise prevents the offense from hearing its signals, he can institute a series of procedures which can result in a loss of team time outs or a five-yard penalty against the defensive team.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/timing

but apparently the NFL is being lax on this kinda thing now.

i remember the MNF game in '85 where the Bears where playing at Miami. the crowd was so loud they stopped play multiple times until the Bears offense could hear the calls at the line.

Are you sure that is still a rule? If it is, that's b******t that it never gets called on Seattle. Kinda like how they don't call their secondary for holding practically every play.

yes. it's still in the current NFL rulebook.

Well it makes you wonder then if Harbaugh has taken it up with the league. This should be talked about plenty heading into the playoffs and it needs to start being called. The offense shouldn't not be able to hear and communicate with one another. Take away that advantage and Seattle will have some trouble

won't do much good

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/nfl-eases-up-on-restricting-crowd-noise/

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
At what point will the league step in to stop the fans from affecting the game?

it's a penalty in the NFL rulebook

When, in the judgment of the Referee, the level of crowd noise prevents the offense from hearing its signals, he can institute a series of procedures which can result in a loss of team time outs or a five-yard penalty against the defensive team.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/timing

but apparently the NFL is being lax on this kinda thing now.

i remember the MNF game in '85 where the Bears where playing at Miami. the crowd was so loud they stopped play multiple times until the Bears offense could hear the calls at the line.

Are you sure that is still a rule? If it is, that's b******t that it never gets called on Seattle. Kinda like how they don't call their secondary for holding practically every play.

yes. it's still in the current NFL rulebook.

Well it makes you wonder then if Harbaugh has taken it up with the league. This should be talked about plenty heading into the playoffs and it needs to start being called. The offense shouldn't not be able to hear and communicate with one another. Take away that advantage and Seattle will have some trouble

won't do much good

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/nfl-eases-up-on-restricting-crowd-noise/

That's stupid. Why have the rule if you're not going to enforce it. There is something seriously wrong with that.

Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

At what point will the league step in to stop the fans from affecting the game?

it's a penalty in the NFL rulebook

When, in the judgment of the Referee, the level of crowd noise prevents the offense from hearing its signals, he can institute a series of procedures which can result in a loss of team time outs or a five-yard penalty against the defensive team.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/timing

but apparently the NFL is being lax on this kinda thing now.

i remember the MNF game in '85 where the Bears where playing at Miami. the crowd was so loud they stopped play multiple times until the Bears offense could hear the calls at the line.

Are you sure that is still a rule? If it is, that's b******t that it never gets called on Seattle. Kinda like how they don't call their secondary for holding practically every play.

yes. it's still in the current NFL rulebook.

Well it makes you wonder then if Harbaugh has taken it up with the league. This should be talked about plenty heading into the playoffs and it needs to start being called. The offense shouldn't not be able to hear and communicate with one another. Take away that advantage and Seattle will have some trouble

won't do much good

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/nfl-eases-up-on-restricting-crowd-noise/

That's stupid. Why have the rule if you're not going to enforce it. There is something seriously wrong with that.

Mike Ditka agrees

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/13/mike-ditka-calls-encouraging-crowd-noise-stupid/

NVM

No

Originally posted by gunner77:
Winners of #5Rings should be embarrassed by this thread. Oh, and can you remind me how many rings you've won since the Hawks have joined the division? I forget.

Well technically they've won 5 since the Seahawks joined the division as NFC West was their original home. The just found temporary homes elsewhere before coming back.

I have been looking at the Official Rulebook and have yet to find a rule for crowd noise. If you all could help me find it I would be greatful. Please do not post http://nfl.com/rulebook/timing because that is part of the Digest and not the Official Rulebook. Please download the pdf and help me search for the rule.

"Digest of Rules

This Digest of Rules of the National Football League has been prepared to aid players, fans, and members of the press, radio, and television media in their understanding of the game.

It is not meant to be a substitute for the official rule book. In any case of conflict between these explanations and the official rules, the rules always have precedence.

In order to make it easier to coordinate the information in this digest, the topics discussed generally follow the order of the rule book."


This will hopefully help people realize that the Digest is NOT the Rulebook.

Please Reference with Page number. Thanks.

I don't think the league should regulate crowd noise, but they shouldn't allow a stadium to be built with the purpose of amplifying crowd noise in the design of the structure (Seattle).

Cheathawks.

Originally posted by trogdor:
I don't think the league should regulate crowd noise, but they shouldn't allow a stadium to be built with the purpose of amplifying crowd noise in the design of the structure (Seattle).

Exactly.

Here's the thing: you can't take away anything from Seattle and their fans. They are rabid and wildly enthusiastic. Probably unrivaled in terms of energy as far as NFL fans go. But, in my opinion, a stadium that amplifies noise is an unfair advantage. In fact, it's really a slippery slope... what if the next stadium that is built takes this to the extreme?

Why else would yo attend a game.

Does anyone else think it's a lil fishy that there crowd hit 137 decibels of sound in there first home game but didn't break 110 in the nfccg?

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Why else would yo attend a game.

Maybe to watch the players play football?

Anyway, to rephrase my answer: no, they should not take steps to reduce the noise, but they should consider regulations on the way stadiums are created to prevent artificial advantages.