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niner4life21 · 2011-01-09T19:15:20-08:00

So we've all been hearing about this whole CBA problem that the NFL has and how much it could negatively affect next season. I don't know too much about it. What is the issue and what would happen if it isn't resolved? For example, what type of things would the Niners, and other teams around the league, not be able to do?

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:13 PM

#5191

SybErkRimInAL
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they're gonna vote tomorrow. Thing is, the vote is gonna be "no go"

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM

#5192

sdninerfan
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Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
they're gonna vote tomorrow. Thing is, the vote is gonna be "no go"

Why do you think that?

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:19 PM

#5193

LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
they're gonna vote tomorrow. Thing is, the vote is gonna be "no go"

Is there any chance they vote tomorrow? I didn't think they would vote on weekends. Not sure why I think that just got the impression that the weekend was their off time.

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM

#5194

oldninerdude
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Folks are awful blithe about other people's money.

Meh. Not so much blithe as cavalier.

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM

#5195

njninersfan420
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im going to get very drunk

all weekend and try not to think about this bs. on monday they better get this ish done!

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

#5196

PTulini
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Originally posted by SportsFan:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Jason LaCanfora: Clearing up some stuff from earlier - It was a false report about the nature of an alleged email from the NFLPA to player reps that quickly spread to the point where reps and players believed it to be true, including several I spoke to. Turned out to be erroneous and the NFLPA in fact sent out nothing. PA got word to players it was not true and there is no conference call or meeting set for Monday. George Atallah of the NFLPA told me "there is no timetable" for any conference or vote and the lawyers will continue to work out the remaining issues.

So .. basically they are saying the NFLPA has no plans right now to vote. They still feel they are in negotiating phase?

The financial aspects of the CBA are settled. Now they have to reach a settlement on the remaining lawsuts. legal issues, and exactly the extent Roger Goodell's athority to discipline players. Most players feel that he acts like a judge and jury when making decisions. They want an impartial, outside committee to appeal to, or something like it.

[ Edited by PTulini on Jul 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM ]

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

#5197

battletowin
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Originally posted by njninersfan420:
im going to get very drunk all weekend and try not to think about this bs. on monday they better get this ish done!

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:25 PM

#5198

susweel
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My sources say they already voted but they are not telling anyone the outcome.

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:27 PM

#5199

oldninerdude
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Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by SportsFan:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Jason LaCanfora: Clearing up some stuff from earlier - It was a false report about the nature of an alleged email from the NFLPA to player reps that quickly spread to the point where reps and players believed it to be true, including several I spoke to. Turned out to be erroneous and the NFLPA in fact sent out nothing. PA got word to players it was not true and there is no conference call or meeting set for Monday. George Atallah of the NFLPA told me "there is no timetable" for any conference or vote and the lawyers will continue to work out the remaining issues.

So .. basically they are saying the NFLPA has no plans right now to vote. They still feel they are in negotiating phase?

The financial aspects of the CBA are settled. Now they have to reach a settlement on the remaining lawsuts and exactly the extent Roger Goodell's athority to discipline players. Most players feel that he acts like a judge and jury when making decisions. They want an impartial, outside committee to appeal to.

But the NFLPA, once they recertify, will have the opportunity to change that, and other things. Question is whether they can make those changes they think they want in the three day window the owner's proposal "dictates."

The owners would have been wise to either give more time, or build more flexibility into the language, rather than simply saying "three days or it reverts to the old CBA."

[ Edited by oldninerdude on Jul 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM ]

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

#5200

AJ_Larrea954
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My sources says the players are watching gay porn right now and hate their job because they love gay porn

[ Edited by AJ_Larrea954 on Jul 22, 2011 at 4:33 PM ]

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:31 PM

#5201

phatbutskinny
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my sources say im horny

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:32 PM

#5202

PTulini
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Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by SportsFan:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Jason LaCanfora: Clearing up some stuff from earlier - It was a false report about the nature of an alleged email from the NFLPA to player reps that quickly spread to the point where reps and players believed it to be true, including several I spoke to. Turned out to be erroneous and the NFLPA in fact sent out nothing. PA got word to players it was not true and there is no conference call or meeting set for Monday. George Atallah of the NFLPA told me "there is no timetable" for any conference or vote and the lawyers will continue to work out the remaining issues.

So .. basically they are saying the NFLPA has no plans right now to vote. They still feel they are in negotiating phase?

The financial aspects of the CBA are settled. Now they have to reach a settlement on the remaining lawsuts and exactly the extent Roger Goodell's athority to discipline players. Most players feel that he acts like a judge and jury when making decisions. They want an impartial, outside committee to appeal to.

But the NFLPA, once they recertify, will have the opportunity to change that, and other things. Question is whether they can make those changes they think they want in the three day window the owner's proposal "dictates."

The owners would have been wise to either give more time, or build more flexibility into the language, rather than simply saying "three days or it reverts to the old CBA."

True, but I understand why the owners did that. People need deadlines. It creates a sense of urgency. In most cases, that's the only way things get done.

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:35 PM

#5203

LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by oldninerdude:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by SportsFan:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Jason LaCanfora: Clearing up some stuff from earlier - It was a false report about the nature of an alleged email from the NFLPA to player reps that quickly spread to the point where reps and players believed it to be true, including several I spoke to. Turned out to be erroneous and the NFLPA in fact sent out nothing. PA got word to players it was not true and there is no conference call or meeting set for Monday. George Atallah of the NFLPA told me "there is no timetable" for any conference or vote and the lawyers will continue to work out the remaining issues.

So .. basically they are saying the NFLPA has no plans right now to vote. They still feel they are in negotiating phase?

The financial aspects of the CBA are settled. Now they have to reach a settlement on the remaining lawsuts and exactly the extent Roger Goodell's athority to discipline players. Most players feel that he acts like a judge and jury when making decisions. They want an impartial, outside committee to appeal to.

But the NFLPA, once they recertify, will have the opportunity to change that, and other things. Question is whether they can make those changes they think they want in the three day window the owner's proposal "dictates."

The owners would have been wise to either give more time, or build more flexibility into the language, rather than simply saying "three days or it reverts to the old CBA."

True, but I understand why the owners did that. People need deadlines. It creates a sense of urgency. In most cases, that's the only way things get done.

Exactly. I can understand as well. It is built into the CBA that they need 15 days prior to the 1st preseason game so saying they have to sign by Tuesday was done so that they don't miss any preseason. The players let their egos get in the way and felt they were being pushed around. I guess they don't have an issue if they miss a preseason game or not.

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:35 PM

#5204

toeknee
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Originally posted by susweel:
My sources say they already voted but they are not telling anyone the outcome.

They will hold a special event with the proceeds going to a charity to announce their decision. They will be interviewed by James Earl Jones

Jul 22, 2011 at 4:35 PM

#5205

DaDivaRecieva15
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My sources say i will beat my dick at 5:00PM PT