Originally posted by aman49:
I don't want rapist QBs on my team. So just as I was anti-Mark Sanchez, I am anti-Ben.
Sounds like you're also against winning football games.
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Originally posted by aman49:
I don't want rapist QBs on my team. So just as I was anti-Mark Sanchez, I am anti-Ben.
Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by WINiner:
We had better offer 17, or this franchise FAILS. Ben is an unquestioned star in this league. The Steelers are dumb for trying to trade him and the Niners are fools if they don't bend over for the Steelers to acquire him.
Seriously i doubt they trade him, i think they are just using this to scare Ben.
And if they do, I am not convinced 17 will do it. Or anywhere near it.
McNabb traded for a 2nd, Holmes traded for a 5th. I would think 17 would do it, although now that I think about it I'm pretty sure you can't trade picks that were not originally yours.. If not go ahead and offer 13 instead. If it takes more, then offer 13 and our 3rd, or 13 and next years 2.
Being open to trading a franchise QB is not the way to go about things if you are trying to curb certain behavior. I mean look how quickly things blew up in Denver with Cutler at the mention of trading him. Ben has the upper hand here. I don't imagine he really cares if he stays in Pitt. I mean there are MANY places I would rather live personally. I mean it's not like Pitt is a yearly contender like say the Pats or Colts are, although I suppose they are the next best thing.
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Originally posted by Jcool:
There is less then a zero percent chance if they ever do decide to trade him he goes for anything less then what the Broncos got for Jay Culter, which would mean Alex Smith, either both our first round picks or a 1st and 2nd this year and our first round next year.
Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by WINiner:
We had better offer 17, or this franchise FAILS. Ben is an unquestioned star in this league. The Steelers are dumb for trying to trade him and the Niners are fools if they don't bend over for the Steelers to acquire him.
Seriously i doubt they trade him, i think they are just using this to scare Ben.
And if they do, I am not convinced 17 will do it. Or anywhere near it.
McNabb traded for a 2nd, Holmes traded for a 5th. I would think 17 would do it, although now that I think about it I'm pretty sure you can't trade picks that were not originally yours.. If not go ahead and offer 13 instead. If it takes more, then offer 13 and our 3rd, or 13 and next years 2.
Being open to trading a franchise QB is not the way to go about things if you are trying to curb certain behavior. I mean look how quickly things blew up in Denver with Cutler at the mention of trading him. Ben has the upper hand here. I don't imagine he really cares if he stays in Pitt. I mean there are MANY places I would rather live personally. I mean it's not like Pitt is a yearly contender like say the Pats or Colts are, although I suppose they are the next best thing.
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
I am guessing all the anti Big Ben posters in here are all Smith backers & think that Smith is a waaaaaaaay better QB then Rosthlisberger...........if Smith fails us for the last time this season lets see if everybody regrets not wanting to reach out for a good QB
i cant believe people are so naive , knowing that upgrading the QB position would make us a instant playoff contender while sticking with Smith leaves question marks all across boards.
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Big Ben is a 2 TIME 2 TIME SUPERBOWL champion how can you doubt him & praise the garbage we have in Frisco
by the way if he was a rapist dont you think they would of charged him with something?
Originally posted by 49erRider:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by WINiner:
We had better offer 17, or this franchise FAILS. Ben is an unquestioned star in this league. The Steelers are dumb for trying to trade him and the Niners are fools if they don't bend over for the Steelers to acquire him.
Seriously i doubt they trade him, i think they are just using this to scare Ben.
Are you serious? Why would that scare Ben? He'd just be on a different team. Still starting, still making the same money the Steelers tried to give him. Yeah, REAL scary.
Originally posted by 49erRider:Originally posted by jreff22:
Before the flood gates open......no. Until this s**t goes away I wouldn't touch him.
This would be stupid. Now would be the best time to make a trade for him, as his value will be slightly lower due to the circumstances.
Big Ben is an overrated QB, but he's still top 10, which is FAR better than anything we have on the roster. He has proven capable of winning the big game (as long as his defense is playing good football) and he would be a MUCH better option than any of our QBs if we want to make an impact in the playoffs. His contract is fair for a franchise QB, so that won't break a deal. I say we try as hard as we can do get this guy. If we don't, our front office has to be among the worst in the league.
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
And right now, our QB spots, at least for now, are fixed. And they say if it aint broke dont fix it.
Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by TheRatMan13:Originally posted by Leathaface:
Obviously he's a good QB but I wouldn't want him on our team. There's certain guys you just can't root for, and to me he's one of them.
Agreed. Maybe after the first rape allegation, but not after this one. Where there is smoke there is fire, and the Niners dont need the bad press when they are just starting to form a solid team.
Or girl#2 found out that girl#1 got financially rewarded somehow from her allegations and is a gold digger....
Rapists are what they are, and with his availability to potential box, I would imagine many more of these allegations would be out there if it were true. I truely believe that Ben is a victim and not the offender.