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Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by GoFD74:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by GoFD74:
^^

Here's what I see happening:

- Smith is the starter in '10, Davis as the 3rd string QB
- Hill gets released in the offseason
- We sign a veteran to back up Smith
- If Smith falters during the season, the vet takes over and Smith is done as a Niner
- If the vet fails to get us to the playoffs, Davis get his shot

That is pretty much the plan B I see happening. We agree on something *gasp*


of course it would just be much easier if Smith turned out to be the QB we drafted him to be


Which 2010 free agent vet will the Niners sign?

Kyle Orton (Denver will retain him)
Jason Campbell
Chad "Duck Season" Pennington
Tavaris Jackson
Kellen Clemens
Charlie Batch
Kyle Boller
David Carr
Brodie Croyle
Daunte Culpepper
Rex Grossman
Joey Harrington
Jon Kitna
Matt Moore
Chris Redman

Their a group of guys who couldn't hold starting jobs with other teams.

Why would the team cut Hill a player popular with his peers for one of those journeymen bums?

No, the most likely scenario is that the team is going to retain Hill at the #3 spot.
Nate Davis will be promoted to the #2 and bide his time until Smith get's pulled (my $ is by game 4 if he plays at the same inconsistent level as this year).

The NFL is based on merit. Players aren't tenured because of draft position and they don't get mulligans for being injured. If another player can perform better regardless of draft position and experience, then they'll take their spot.

Davis will NOT be the #2 QB. He will remain the #3QB. Either Hill stays at the #2 or gets let go and a vet QB is brought in to be the back up. The list of available veteran QB's to back up Smith is a lot larger than the short list you compiled. They could bring back Damon Huard if they wanted to. He already has experience in Raye's offense. Just an example.


The team already cut Huard because Nate Davis showed more intangibles and upside. Also you didn't say which vet the Niners would probably get and what they bring to the table.

You seem to ignore the fact that as the #3 QB, Davis wouldn't get any practice reps and would progress. The team would make him the #2 with the intent of possibly starting him in 2011.

You don't even acknowledge the fact that if Alex Smith under performs in 2010, then the #2 would be promoted. Again, that #2 would be Davis.

What support do you have for your argument that Hill would be cut, the team will sign a vet and Davis will remain the #3?

I havent' stated that if Smith underperforms then the #2 QB will be brought in??? Thats odd because I have said it at least 4 times in this thread alone. And (just for the crybaby) IMHO Davis will be the #3 QB. Do I know what vet QB will be brought in?? Do you think I have some kind of magic crystal ball that tells the future? You like to assume that Huard was released because Davis showe more upside and bla bla bla. That could be the case but sorry the coaches are the only ones that know the real reason why Huard was cut. Hell I can throw out a scenario as well and try and pass it off as fact just as you are with your statement. The reality is that there is a large group of vet QB's that can be brought in to back up Smith. It all depends on who the coaches want to go after. The support I have for releasing Hill is the fact that the coaches know that he can not move the ball down field. Teams have figured him out, all they have to do is take away the short routes and Hill is pretty much useless. If it wasn't true then Hill would have never been demoted and Smith would not be the starter right now(AND THAT IS FACT!!!!!) You don't keep a QB who can not move the ball on the team. Therefore Hill is let go and a more capable vet QB is brouht in to back up Smith. Davis remains #3 and continues to learn the offense(Davis has a learning disability and has to be tought the offense in a differet way then a QB who does not have a learning disability) Am I calling Davis stupid, no I am just simply stating FACTS. Davis has a learning disability and has to learn the offense through pictures(as stated though one of the Matt's) but hey you and the other guy are right. I am have nothing

Ever hear of seperating all that into a couple of paragraphs? And wtf does I am have nothing mean?
NATE DAVIS TO CRABTREE 2010!
i just had a bad thought. i have heard whispers of the niners might take a QB with one of their 1st round picks. if we do that and keep hill its bye bye Davis. gulp
I have a feeling he plays a couple of drives, especially if it's a blowout.
Originally posted by 9er2631:
i just had a bad thought. i have heard whispers of the niners might take a QB with one of their 1st round picks. if we do that and keep hill its bye bye Davis. gulp

From where? The only qb I wouldnt hate is Bradford, and I'm not to excited about him. Rather get two Lineman and give Smith another 6 games.
Originally posted by LeadFarmer:
Originally posted by 9er2631:
i just had a bad thought. i have heard whispers of the niners might take a QB with one of their 1st round picks. if we do that and keep hill its bye bye Davis. gulp

From where? The only qb I wouldnt hate is Bradford, and I'm not to excited about him. Rather get two Lineman and give Smith another 6 games.

i don't like any of the QBs in this draft but i wouldnt go so far as hating any one.


Nate Davis would play no better than how Curtis Painter played last week.

-9fA
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by LeadFarmer:
Originally posted by 9er2631:
i just had a bad thought. i have heard whispers of the niners might take a QB with one of their 1st round picks. if we do that and keep hill its bye bye Davis. gulp

From where? The only qb I wouldnt hate is Bradford, and I'm not to excited about him. Rather get two Lineman and give Smith another 6 games.

i don't like any of the QBs in this draft but i wouldnt go so far as hating any one.



I agree but we got to draft a QB I'm not saying first round but maybe 2nd. I can't stand Alexis Smith another season at the helm we are doom if that happens!
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Nate Davis would play no better than how Curtis Painter played last week.

-9fA

You can't say that until he's given the chance! Painter Sucks!

MVP = Peyton Manning
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by LeadFarmer:
Originally posted by 9er2631:
i just had a bad thought. i have heard whispers of the niners might take a QB with one of their 1st round picks. if we do that and keep hill its bye bye Davis. gulp

From where? The only qb I wouldnt hate is Bradford, and I'm not to excited about him. Rather get two Lineman and give Smith another 6 games.

i don't like any of the QBs in this draft but i wouldnt go so far as hating any one.



I agree but we got to draft a QB I'm not saying first round but maybe 2nd. I can't stand Alexis Smith another season at the helm we are doom if that happens!

And the five years out of the last three that we have been losing is who's fault? Alex Smith wasn't playing QB the last two years so who do you blame?
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by LeadFarmer:
Originally posted by 9er2631:
i just had a bad thought. i have heard whispers of the niners might take a QB with one of their 1st round picks. if we do that and keep hill its bye bye Davis. gulp

From where? The only qb I wouldnt hate is Bradford, and I'm not to excited about him. Rather get two Lineman and give Smith another 6 games.

i don't like any of the QBs in this draft but i wouldnt go so far as hating any one.



I agree but we got to draft a QB I'm not saying first round but maybe 2nd. I can't stand Alexis Smith another season at the helm we are doom if that happens!

And the five years out of the last three that we have been losing is who's fault? Alex Smith wasn't playing QB the last two years so who do you blame?

Obviously our QB play has been our fault since 2002 won't you agree?

No QB then were not going anywhere that's just a fact!
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by LeadFarmer:
Originally posted by 9er2631:
i just had a bad thought. i have heard whispers of the niners might take a QB with one of their 1st round picks. if we do that and keep hill its bye bye Davis. gulp

From where? The only qb I wouldnt hate is Bradford, and I'm not to excited about him. Rather get two Lineman and give Smith another 6 games.

i don't like any of the QBs in this draft but i wouldnt go so far as hating any one.



I agree but we got to draft a QB I'm not saying first round but maybe 2nd. I can't stand Alexis Smith another season at the helm we are doom if that happens!

And the five years out of the last three that we have been losing is who's fault? Alex Smith wasn't playing QB the last two years so who do you blame?

Obviously our QB play has been our fault since 2002 won't you agree?

No QB then were not going anywhere that's just a fact!

I think since 2002 this team has lacked talent at every position at some time or another. Getting a "better" QB isn't really the issue with this team. I see it as a bad offensive line and a bunch of other things.
Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Nate Davis not being able to pick up the offense at a normal pace because of is dyslexia, is not only unsupported conjecture, but prejudice that a persons disability some how makes a person inadequate.

Dyslexia never hindered his ability to learn the playbill in college or outperform his fellow QBs in preseason.

I'd appreciate it of you presented a credible argument supported by fact or some type of precedent.

If Don Coryell, who designed the offense we run, is dyslexic then Nate should be a to run it.
Let davis compete next year for the starting qb spot. and whoever comes out with better play in exhibition season, he should be starter. just keep training the qbs in the fundamentals, caoches shouldnt stop doing that.
Originally posted by sj49er408:
Let davis compete next year for the starting qb spot. and whoever comes out with better play in exhibition season, he should be starter. just keep training the qbs in the fundamentals, caoches shouldnt stop doing that.


NO! Let Alex play WITHOUT competition so that he can have ALL of the reps with the first team. No more bulls**t -- it's been hindering our QB (no matter who) for the past 6 years. Alex will start in 2010 barring injury. GET. OVER. IT. I just don't understand how people think Nate Davis will be good after watching him in PRESEASON. Against SCRUBS that probably aren't in the league anymore!

Oh, he had zing on his pass?
Oh, he stepped up in the pocket and had "pocket presence?"

Wake up! He had a pocket to step into because the scrubs on the opposing d-line were just that: SCRUBS. Of course you can elude players who are trying out to be on the practice squad. He had zing on the ball because he's an NFL-caliber QB. Starter? Who knows. But it drives me INSANE that people think he will automatically step onto the field and a white light will shine down and he'll be Joe Montana from day 1. God damnit!
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