49ers looking at Josh Cribbs?

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Overkill:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by PTulini:
With all of this talk about finding a good return man this off-season, I suspect the 49ers may make a serious run at aquiring Josh Cribbs.

As do we all, but what is it going to take to get him? A 1st round pick? 2nd??

Probably a 3rd and a 5th IMO. I'd do it though. He would've put us in the playoffs this year just by not fumbling in Houston and Seattle.

Cleveland is not moving their best player for a 3rd & 5th round pick.

Maybe 2nd then. But the fact of the matter is you don't trade a first rounder for a returner who won't do much else for you, regardless of whether or not he's their best player IMO. It's not our fault they don't have any other good players. And even players who play positions like QBs don't always get traded for 1sts.

True, I would not trade a first rounder for him. He's 27, which ain't young for a KR, and look at the history of top return guys in this league - none of them dominated for more than a few years. But Cleveland is working hard on finding other ways to use him (just like Hester in Chicago). He's more than a KR to them. They have to get top value for him.

The Niners won't be the only ones bidding - the Browns fielded several calls about him earlier this season despite proclaiming very loudly that they were not interested in trading him. So, our second rounder probably won't get it done by itself.

How high are you willing to go?

2nd round pick, that's it.

Draft an OT and Iupati with our 1st round picks, and we're golden like tate.

Originally posted by Overkill:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Overkill:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by PTulini:
With all of this talk about finding a good return man this off-season, I suspect the 49ers may make a serious run at aquiring Josh Cribbs.

As do we all, but what is it going to take to get him? A 1st round pick? 2nd??

Probably a 3rd and a 5th IMO. I'd do it though. He would've put us in the playoffs this year just by not fumbling in Houston and Seattle.

Cleveland is not moving their best player for a 3rd & 5th round pick.

Maybe 2nd then. But the fact of the matter is you don't trade a first rounder for a returner who won't do much else for you, regardless of whether or not he's their best player IMO. It's not our fault they don't have any other good players. And even players who play positions like QBs don't always get traded for 1sts.

True, I would not trade a first rounder for him. He's 27, which ain't young for a KR, and look at the history of top return guys in this league - none of them dominated for more than a few years. But Cleveland is working hard on finding other ways to use him (just like Hester in Chicago). He's more than a KR to them. They have to get top value for him.

The Niners won't be the only ones bidding - the Browns fielded several calls about him earlier this season despite proclaiming very loudly that they were not interested in trading him. So, our second rounder probably won't get it done by itself.

How high are you willing to go?

You know, I don't think I'd give much more than a 2nd. That's too rich for my blood IMO for a returner. With as deep as this draft is I think I'll take my chances that we can find a playmaker with that 2nd round pick, and find some returners either in FA or in the draft. Javier Arenas is a guy who could be a pretty good returner. Spiller in the first. Reggie Bush can return. It's not like we have no other options if we fail to add Cribbs, and while he'd be really nice since he's the best returner in the game, Cleveland should know that they don't have us or any other team against a wall. If their asking price is too high, you could see other teams go and get other returners in the draft or in FA and while it's unlikely IMO the market could dry up.

Trade our 2nd or draft Dexter McCluster in the 2nd.

So you guys would spend 8 million a year for a KR ?

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
So you guys would spend 8 million a year for a KR ?

8 million???????? what are you talking about. It's reported Cribbs was looking for somewhere in the 2.8 to 3.5 mil range.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
So you guys would spend 8 million a year for a KR ?

Aint my money, I would spend a billion of some other persons money on tampons if I felt like it.

Originally posted by Chief:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
So you guys would spend 8 million a year for a KR ?

Aint my money, I would spend a billion of some other persons money on tampons if I felt like it.

cribbs would definitely plug a gaping hole in our team.

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:

Originally posted by Chief:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
So you guys would spend 8 million a year for a KR ?

Aint my money, I would spend a billion of some other persons money on tampons if I felt like it.

cribbs would definitely plug a gaping hole in our team.

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:

Originally posted by Chief:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
So you guys would spend 8 million a year for a KR ?

Aint my money, I would spend a billion of some other persons money on tampons if I felt like it.

cribbs would definitely plug a gaping hole in our team.

amen

Cribbs helps out the whole offense believe it or not. He'll provide great field position for an unproven Alex Smith and a shaky o-line to try and make something happen. I don't know how they view him as a receiver but he could possibly fit that "taser" formation Raye tried to run with Michael Spurcock. Overall, I wouldn't mind trading a 2nd for him. A 1st would be too high for just a return man that we might be able to get in Spiller if he's on the board.

Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
2nd round pick, that's it.

Draft an OT and Iupati with our 1st round picks, and we're golden like tate.

I would be ecstatic if that is how we used our first 3 picks. Or even if we took one OL in the first and one in the third and a pass rusher with our other first round pick.

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by Daniel2778:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by Daniel2778:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
you mean just like he didn't trade for Cutler and Cassel?

-9fA

if you ask me, im glad he didnt trade for them...could you imigane cutler in a niner uniform? he would be throwing 4 picks a game and cassel, what has he done lately

Agreed. But IIRC, there was a lot of uproar that McCloughan wasn't wheeling and dealing and getting these players.

The answer to your question is that it would most likely cost us a high draft pick(s) when a PR/KR can be found instead in the 4th round. As you can see, we need those picks ourselves.

Another answer to your question is that he simply wasn't on the trade block.

-9fA

i cant see any 4th rounder doing what cribbs has been doing and please lets not forget the peope we have chosen with our 3rd and 4th round picks, other than gore, it has been horrible

Huh? Cribbs himself went undrafted. You don't need to spend 1st and 2nd rounders to find quality KRs and PRs when they'll be available in latter rounds.

That McCloughan hasn't done anything with 3rd or 4th round picks is another thread. I would have traded a 3rd or a 4th for Cribbs FWIW.

-9fA

How great the KR/PR any player can be, I just dont see giving up any round pic until 4th unless he is a multi tasker... you know CB/PR. To me, there is way to much value on players in the draft and to think we could be passing up on future Hall of Famer would be a mistake I wouldnt take. Remember, not all the greats came from the first or second round. But hay, that is me right?

u really think an organization who let go their best and only return man go with no backup plan would actually take the initiative in getting Cribbs?

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
you mean just like he didn't trade for Cutler and Cassel?

-9fA

I would take Cutler over Alex Smith. He may look bad this but he has much more upside then Alex ever will.

Would you have paid Denver's price tag ?