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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
In the mornings the raider fans are not excited on 95.7....plus you a person like yourself would disagree with excited raider fans because the coach has a losing record...a QB that only won 3 games and a washed up receiver...amirite

I can see why a Raider fan would be optimistic. On the other hand, I think it's a little early to be calling Carr 'the real thing' or the answer to their problems. Everyone seems to be jumping on his bandwagon after a mixed first season with a 76 QB rating and I wonder if they've noticed that new QB's often do better in their first year than their second because NFL defenses have film to take apart on them after their first year.

It's not always about numbers, pay attention to the "it factor". Derek Carr has IT. A fiery leader, that can make all the throws.

Of course there's a learning curve with all QBs, but not all have the "it factor".

The it factor....how does that logic fit with your logic on the 49ers ?...you want to talk potential in a positive way when they showed nothing last year ?....lol

When you go from a championship coach to an assistant coach you lose a lot of "it factor".


Originally posted by crake49:
I'm mostly a numbers guy. Things like "it factor" I take with a grain of salt because they're so subjective. I don't know that he can make all the throws. He doesn't look like he has that strong an arm to me. His yards per catch was probably the lowest in the league among regular starters. What he had last year was really good pass protection. I believe the Raiders line was rated at #4 in the league in terms of pass protection by Football Outsiders. If he continues to get that kind of protection and they add some receivers, he may well end up being real good. But at this point, I think it's premature.

That's the thing, stats don't show everything, like the intangibles. It's ok though because not all people can recognize "it factor".

You're not following your logic (del rio)
"It factor" lol
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by verb1der:
I just referred to the polls because 49 thinks Raider fans aren't excited when in fact they are. They got their prodigal son in Jack Del Rio coming back to his roots to coach his favorite team of all time.

There's a lot of excitement in Raider Nation esp now they have a real QB and Crabtree.

Raider fans should be excited - the arrow should be up. And I actually like it when both Bay Area NFL teams are doing well. It makes things a lot more interesting. Here's how long I hold a grudge - I'm still pissed that the Niners got screwed out of facing the Raiders in the Super Bowl after the '83 season. If not for corrupt, absurd officials in DC, it would have been an epic Niner-Raiders Super Bowl (and the Niners would have rolled BTW).

I still hate the skins because of that...more than the Cowgirls, Greenbay and a number of other teams that were a real rivalry. At least when they won, they beat us or were lucky...not cheating.
[ Edited by Jakemall on Apr 18, 2015 at 9:06 AM ]
Originally posted by verb1der:
I'm guessing you havent paid any attention to any of the polls on CSNbayarea.com

What are they supposed to say? We think we are going to suck before the draft, practice, pre season and regular season games have even happened?


[ Edited by ChipDouglas510 on Apr 18, 2015 at 12:17 PM ]
The raiders should have paid to bring in a couple of guys for carr to toss to. Why not brandon marshall?
Originally posted by xtm059:
The raiders should have paid to bring in a couple of guys for carr to toss to. Why not brandon marshall?

They had interest in the top WR's on or set to hit the market. Short of grossly overpaying, they had little chance. That team is a project rebuild that needs time and until players see the culture changing they will remain unattractive. What they should not do is overpay.
Definitely a Raider fan.

WE....CAN'T....BE.....STOP!!!!


Awesome.
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Definitely a Raider fan.


What else is he supposed to write?

"WE CAN BE STOP!!!"

Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Definitely a Raider fan.


What else is he supposed to write?

"WE CAN BE STOP!!!"


I guess you're a raider fan too....take another look
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I guess you're a raider fan too....take another look

What? That wasn't a joke? Ouch.


I wonder who wrote the sign for him.
WE CAN'T BE STOP!
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Definitely a Raider fan.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-stadium-carson-20150422-story.html


Good bye Raiders. Broke ass Oakland cannot afford a 1.7 billion dollar stadium.
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