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Jan 30, 2025 at 10:20 PM
- DRCHOWDER
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I'm like 80% sure someone from this senior bowl is getting picked by us.
Jan 31, 2025 at 4:33 AM
- miked1978
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Jan 31, 2025 at 5:45 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Travon Walker had production in college though and was rotated in and out by Kirby Smart with their deep rotation.
This years Travon Walker is Mykel Williams. They are actually pretty much identical.
Walker had less than 10 career sacks in 3 yrs. I would agree Williams is very much in that role as well.
I wouldn't call Texas A&M's scheme a positive place to get sacks either. Scourton was regarded as one of if not the #1 EDGE heading into the season. He was dominant at Purdue. Transferred to A&M and produced half the amount of sacks.
I don't think it's a fluke that Stewart has looked pretty damn good at the Senior bowl. IMO he's got an incredible set of tools to work with, he has to polish up his pass rush plan and work on hand usage.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 31, 2025 at 5:47 AM ]
Jan 31, 2025 at 6:51 AM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Travon Walker had production in college though and was rotated in and out by Kirby Smart with their deep rotation.
This years Travon Walker is Mykel Williams. They are actually pretty much identical.
Walker had less than 10 career sacks in 3 yrs. I would agree Williams is very much in that role as well.
I wouldn't call Texas A&M's scheme a positive place to get sacks either. Scourton was regarded as one of if not the #1 EDGE heading into the season. He was dominant at Purdue. Transferred to A&M and produced half the amount of sacks.
I don't think it's a fluke that Stewart has looked pretty damn good at the Senior bowl. IMO he's got an incredible set of tools to work with, he has to polish up his pass rush plan and work on hand usage.
What are you leaning towards at 11, or with a trade back?
Jan 31, 2025 at 7:17 AM
- NYniner85
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Jan 31, 2025 at 8:10 AM
- NYniner85
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The biggest risers from a week of practice at the 2025 Senior Bowl, per @KyleCrabbs 📈
— The 33rd Team (@The33rdTeamFB) January 31, 2025
🚀 DT Darius Alexander, Toledo
🦬 OL Grey Zabel, N. Dakota St.
🛡? OT Carson Vinson, Alabama A&M
💪 DL Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M
🐸 WR Jack Bech, TCU
♦? DT Junior Tafuna, Utah
🌀 TE Elijah… https://t.co/36gSRBBl0W pic.twitter.com/5zZL3zVSYE
Jan 31, 2025 at 8:25 AM
- Hoovtrain
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Always seems like the guys that do well at SB do well at the next level. Right now would be good with Stewart/Zabel with first 2 picks
Jan 31, 2025 at 8:27 AM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Travon Walker had production in college though and was rotated in and out by Kirby Smart with their deep rotation.
This years Travon Walker is Mykel Williams. They are actually pretty much identical.
Walker had less than 10 career sacks in 3 yrs. I would agree Williams is very much in that role as well.
I wouldn't call Texas A&M's scheme a positive place to get sacks either. Scourton was regarded as one of if not the #1 EDGE heading into the season. He was dominant at Purdue. Transferred to A&M and produced half the amount of sacks.
I don't think it's a fluke that Stewart has looked pretty damn good at the Senior bowl. IMO he's got an incredible set of tools to work with, he has to polish up his pass rush plan and work on hand usage.
What are you leaning towards at 11, or with a trade back?
I hope they don't trade back. That usually means they're hoping some other team doesn't take a guy they want. Then they end up getting burned.
Jan 31, 2025 at 8:58 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
What are you leaning towards at 11, or with a trade back?
The dream is Graham failing enough to move a 3rd this yr and next to go get him. He's exactly what we need. Stud. Maybe his lack of ideal length will drop him.
only real OL I'm looking at at 11 is Campbell.
Outside of Graham I don't see a DT that needs to be taken there.
EDGE: Scourton was well on is way to be EDGE 1 or 2 end of last yr, but took a step back. I'm intrigued with green, I still feel like he's gotta get bigger/stronger. Is he a 4-3 hand in the dirt DE? SF likes those bigger DEs as 3 down guys. Is someone like Ezeiruaku/Umanmielen/OSU guys in the 2nd or walker/Oladejo later the better value?
I haven't watched Starks to have an opinion there.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't really see this as a top heavy draft. If one or two guys fail a little maybe see what you can do…if not move down and get some more players in a deep draft at some positions of need
Jan 31, 2025 at 9:00 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I hope they don't trade back. That usually means they're hoping some other team doesn't take a guy they want. Then they end up getting burned.
I mean or they have similar grades on a handful of players left on the board and think there's more value on day 2 of the draft
Jan 31, 2025 at 9:04 AM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
What are you leaning towards at 11, or with a trade back?
The dream is Graham failing enough to move a 3rd this yr and next to go get him. He's exactly what we need. Stud. Maybe his lack of ideal length will drop him.
only real OL I'm looking at at 11 is Campbell.
Outside of Graham I don't see a DT that needs to be taken there.
EDGE: Scourton was well on is way to be EDGE 1 or 2 end of last yr, but took a step back. I'm intrigued with green, I still feel like he's gotta get bigger/stronger. Is he a 4-3 hand in the dirt DE? SF likes those bigger DEs as 3 down guys. Is someone like Ezeiruaku/Umanmielen/OSU guys in the 2nd or walker/Oladejo later the better value?
I haven't watched Starks to have an opinion there.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't really see this as a top heavy draft. If one or two guys fail a little maybe see what you can do…if not move down and get some more players in a deep draft at some positions of need
What do you think of Stewart?
Jan 31, 2025 at 9:14 AM
- NYniner85
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Saw Albright tweet something out there about off-field stuff with Mike Green 👀
Jan 31, 2025 at 9:14 AM
- CatchMaster80
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I hope they don't trade back. That usually means they're hoping some other team doesn't take a guy they want. Then they end up getting burned.
I mean or they have similar grades on a handful of players left on the board and think there's more value on day 2 of the draft
Always possible but other temas may also have thise grades. When a team trades back they're hoping that some player they like will still be there. It's a gamble. It really dependsalot on what they get back. If they drop 4 or 5 spots and get an additional high 3rd rounder then it's worth it. If all they get is a 5th rounder it may not be.
Jan 31, 2025 at 9:18 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
What do you think of Stewart?
Man that's hard one at 11. There's flashes of what could be a damn good DE. The size/speed/power is undeniable. I think from day one you have a good run defender in base downs..with a s**t ton of potential as a pass rusher.
But if you put on that Campbell film, he's just getting stonewall and you can see some of the pass rusher issues
What are your thoughts?
Jan 31, 2025 at 9:18 AM
- miked1978
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saw Albright tweet something out there about off-field stuff with Mike Green 👀
what he say?