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Originally posted by mayo49:Kyler is not a sure thing to play football. He's signed with the A's to play ball and the A's aren't going to be happy if he decides to play football, too.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by okdkid:
I understand the interest in the dramatics of trading Rosen and taking Murray at #1. Keim is going to get fired if they don't win in 2019.
Remove your Bosa bias for a moment and consider, in those circumstances, what Keim would do -- in reality.
In reality who makes that team better faster? Murray under Kliff or Rosen? Murray imo would mask some of those OL and skilled player issues because he's not a statue and can create plays.
Who puts butts in those seats a kid who just won the heisman had 5,500 total yards and 52 TDs or Rosen?
Shoot Murray and a top 10 pick...is that really crazy for them to think about?
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by okdkid:I understand the interest in the dramatics of trading Rosen and taking Murray at #1. Keim is going to get fired if they don't win in 2019.
Remove your Bosa bias for a moment and consider, in those circumstances, what Keim would do -- in reality.
In reality who makes that team better faster? Murray under Kliff or Rosen? Murray imo would mask some of those OL and skilled player issues because he's not a statue and can create plays.
Who puts butts in those seats a kid who just won the heisman had 5,500 total yards and 52 TDs or Rosen?
Shoot Murray and a top 10 pick...is that really crazy for them to think about?
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by mayo49:Kyler is not a sure thing to play football. He's signed with the A's to play ball and the A's aren't going to be happy if he decides to play football, too.
Who cares...it's happened a lot. Murray would make a s**t ton of more money faster in football as a 1st rd pick (and would actually play) vs him having to work thru the minor leagues for like 3-5 yrs and maybe cracking a lineup. He's not mike trout
Originally posted by okdkid:Even if you convince yourself he is the #1 QB in this draft -- you have to remember that the allure of a guaranteed baseball contract will hang over the team's head throughout Kyler's 20s.
That alone should knock him down a few pegs -- regardless of his on-field ability. Is he going to jump ship the second you switch to a new OC or scheme? He has an out unlike any other player.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Kyler is not a sure thing to play football. He's signed with the A's to play ball and the A's aren't going to be happy if he decides to play football, too.
Who cares...it's happened a lot. Murray would make a s**t ton of more money faster in football as a 1st rd pick (and would actually play) vs him having to work thru the minor leagues for like 3-5 yrs and maybe cracking a lineup. He's not mike trout
Originally posted by Hysterikal:Denver passed on Rosen last year I don't know if they would be willing to give up a top 10 pick for him. But they probably didn't think Chubb would be available at their pick sooo I don't know will be interesting
Originally posted by mayo49:That's just the football argument. He can make a nice living playing baseball, too.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Hysterikal:Denver passed on Rosen last year I don't know if they would be willing to give up a top 10 pick for him. But they probably didn't think Chubb would be available at their pick sooo I don't know will be interesting
They invested in Keemun prior...it's also about this draft. Rosen imo is a top 5 pick in the 2019 draft. They have a new coach and OC. Who they taking at 10...drew Lock?
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by mayo49:That's just the football argument. He can make a nice living playing baseball, too.
The reason baseball players make so much money is because there's a million baseball prospects from all around the world. They have to go through minor leagues an that can take yrs and yrs...then they don't make top baseball money until they play at a high level in the pros for a couple yrs.
The road to making top money most quickly without a doubt is through the NFL.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Keim is a foot and a half out the door in AZ. If Rosen has a poor season with Kliff's scheme who's getting fired 1st the GM on the hot seat or the new HC? Let's not act like they gave up a future or high picks for Rosen either.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
That's just the football argument. He can make a nice living playing baseball, too.
The reason baseball players make so much money is because there's a million baseball prospects from all around the world. They have to go through minor leagues an that can take yrs and yrs...then they don't make top baseball money until they play at a high level in the pros for a couple yrs.
The road to making top money most quickly without a doubt is through the NFL.
Originally posted by mayo49:Agree, much longer to make top money in baseball but, the contracts are guaranteed when you get one.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Agree, much longer to make top money in baseball but, the contracts are guaranteed when you get one.
If you get one
Originally posted by okdkid:
I understand the interest in the dramatics of trading Rosen and taking Murray at #1. Keim is going to get fired if they don't win in 2019.
Remove your Bosa bias for a moment and consider, in those circumstances, what Keim would do -- in reality.