Rashan Gary, EDGE, Michigan

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

The #Giants are hosting EDGE Rashan Gary, via @TomPelissero
I see him as a classic lack of production vs. athletic freak boom/bust prospect.
I looked at how his frame is IDENTICAL to JPP's, but he's faster, stronger, more agile, and more explosive.
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— Dan Schneier (@DanSchneierNFL) April 9, 2019

I know the haters will disappear quickly. That's going to be the sad part.. They won't be around after all the hate they spilled, when they see how much he impacts games...

The stat dudes have no freaking idea how much teams schemed away from him.. Clueless.. The nerve of people.. 🤣

Can't be mad or ban me because I told you guys from day one.... I have been telling you guys the truth since the very beginning..... Since last year...... Look what month we are in..

This is the pick of the draft..

If you go strictly by stats then Allen is better than Bosa. Allen equaled his 3 year production in 1 season. Obviously stats don't tell the whole story.

Wu who do you think is the better player... Rashan Gary or Frank Clark?

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Wu who do you think is the better player... Rashan Gary or Frank Clark?

Right now? Frank Clark.. In a couple of years? Rashan Gary.

You just cannot find that combination of attributes very often. It just doesn't come that often.

4-3 Edge, 4-2 Nickel package. Just let him chase Qb's all day and watch. No inside for him imho.

Why do you guys think Winovich shined? Teams mostly avoided Rashan Gary, schemed away from him.. Everything was mostly going Winovich way.

Teams avoided Rashan Gary, for very good reason. He disrupts plays.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Wu who do you think is the better player... Rashan Gary or Frank Clark?

Right now? Frank Clark.. In a couple of years? Rashan Gary.

You just cannot find that combination of attributes very often. It just doesn't come that often.

4-3 Edge, 4-2 Nickel package. Just let him chase Qb's all day and watch. No inside for him imho.

Why do you guys think Winovich shined? Teams mostly avoided Rashan Gary, schemed away from him.. Everything was mostly going Winovich way.

Teams avoided Rashan Gary, for very good reason. He disrupts plays.

I just asked a question stop yelling at me

Originally posted by Waterbear:

I just asked a question stop yelling at me

Not yelling. Just adding context. That's all, on why I think he will be better than Frank Clark. Sorry if I come off like that.

I love you're name btw. I know what they are.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Wu who do you think is the better player... Rashan Gary or Frank Clark?

both of them are first ballot hall of fame in his eyes

Originally posted by NTeply49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Wu who do you think is the better player... Rashan Gary or Frank Clark?

both of them are first ballot hall of fame in his eyes

According to some they are-were garbage... 🧐... I'm anti-spinning.. Some are too busy trying to control the narrative, rather than looking at the player for what he is.. So I should believe the b******t second round noise.. Some have lost their damn minds.

Just because I am not part of the hate group. Doesn't make me an apologist.. It doesn't work that way.. lmao

I think Rashan Gary will have a better NFL career. The experts are starting to see the hate... They are starting to sense this blind hatred for this prospect, the same blind hatred that I have been seeing.. Mind boggling..

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by NTeply49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Wu who do you think is the better player... Rashan Gary or Frank Clark?

both of them are first ballot hall of fame in his eyes

According to some they are-were garbage... 🧐... I'm anti-spinning.. Some are too busy trying to control the narrative, rather than looking at the player for what he is.. So I should believe the b******t second round noise.. Some have lost their damn minds.

Just because I am not part of the hate group. Doesn't make me an apologist.. It doesn't work that way.. lmao

I think Rashan Gary will have a better NFL career. The experts are starting to see the hate... They are starting to sense this blind hatred for this prospect, the same blind hatred that I have been seeing.. Mind boggling..

I think for the most part there is no hatred. Why should a poster hate a college player he will never meet? What there is, is a deal of doubt regarding his ability to make the jump from college to NFL. And some belief that he is being overrated and will take a year or more to make the adjustment. Consequently to spend a high first round pick on him would perhaps be unwise. Now a 2nd or 3rd round pick, that would be different. Lower expectations would in the long run work in his favor.

Originally posted by English:

I think for the most part there is no hatred. Why should a poster hate a college player he will never meet? What there is, is a deal of doubt regarding his ability to make the jump from college to NFL. And some belief that he is being overrated and will take a year or more to make the adjustment. Consequently to spend a high first round pick on him would perhaps be unwise. Now a 2nd or 3rd round pick, that would be different. Lower expectations would in the long run work in his favor.

It's borderline embarrassing the lack research English. So much so that now dudes are going out their way who are not Michigan fans, to stop this hate campaign because they are getting annoyed by it.. That's telling, says a lot.

In all honesty, I haven't seen a hate campaign like this. Every offense Michigan has faced, have schemed around Rashan Gary.

He has the sophomore year, his junior year he battled an injury and he is a true junior today. It's there, I don't think one can look pass that and make that determination. I just don't see how and I'm glad that others are starting to see it as well.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by English:
I think for the most part there is no hatred. Why should a poster hate a college player he will never meet? What there is, is a deal of doubt regarding his ability to make the jump from college to NFL. And some belief that he is being overrated and will take a year or more to make the adjustment. Consequently to spend a high first round pick on him would perhaps be unwise. Now a 2nd or 3rd round pick, that would be different. Lower expectations would in the long run work in his favor.

It's borderline embarrassing the lack research English. So much so that now dudes are going out their way who are not Michigan fans, to stop this hate campaign because they are getting annoyed by it.. That's telling, says a lot.

In all honesty, I haven't seen a hate campaign like this. Every offense Michigan has faced, have schemed around Rashan Gary.

He has the sophomore year, his junior year he battled an injury and he is a true junior today. It's there, I don't think one can look pass that and make that determination. I just don't see how and I'm glad that others are starting to see it as well.

Live in Michigan bro. Been looking at Edge rushers since Garappolo went down. I actually wanted the guy to succeed. I watched every game this year. He would flash but wouldn't finish. Bush and Winnovich stood out way more to me. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they haven't done their research. If anything, I'd be more concerned of your research on prospects not from Michigan. He might be the best edge in the world to you because he is the only edge your looking at.

He should be a 3-tech imo and we have like a million 3-techs already.

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

I just asked a question stop yelling at me

Not yelling. Just adding context. That's all, on why I think he will be better than Frank Clark. Sorry if I come off like that.

I love you're name btw. I know what they are.

Lol thanks. The nickname was given so I embraced it. My high school coach still calls me waterbear or some variation lol

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by English:
I think for the most part there is no hatred. Why should a poster hate a college player he will never meet? What there is, is a deal of doubt regarding his ability to make the jump from college to NFL. And some belief that he is being overrated and will take a year or more to make the adjustment. Consequently to spend a high first round pick on him would perhaps be unwise. Now a 2nd or 3rd round pick, that would be different. Lower expectations would in the long run work in his favor.

It's borderline embarrassing the lack research English. So much so that now dudes are going out their way who are not Michigan fans, to stop this hate campaign because they are getting annoyed by it.. That's telling, says a lot.

In all honesty, I haven't seen a hate campaign like this. Every offense Michigan has faced, have schemed around Rashan Gary.

He has the sophomore year, his junior year he battled an injury and he is a true junior today. It's there, I don't think one can look pass that and make that determination. I just don't see how and I'm glad that others are starting to see it as well.

You really seem to be passionate about the 49ers and only want the best for the team, especially when we're in need of a QB hunter, and as a Michigan fan, you've zeored in on Gary, his ratings and unique measureables.

There is no hate campaign against Gary the player. 99% of the people here know he's worth a top 5 pick. People are just reacting negatively to your insistence that Gary's projections are fact. Sure he may have played an anchor role, been injured, or teams consciously schemed away from him, but at the end of the day, the numbers aren't there.

Bosa, Williams, Allen, the numbers are there, and their impact could be seen by anyone watching on TV. None of them played on a defense as vaunted as Michigan.

Rashan Gary has done nothing to prove he will be a dominant pass rusher in the NFL. He could be, but that's just projection surrounded by a lot of "ifs."

Originally posted by NTeply49:
Live in Michigan bro. Been looking at Edge rushers since Garappolo went down. I actually wanted the guy to succeed. I watched every game this year. He would flash but wouldn't finish. Bush and Winnovich stood out way more to me. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they haven't done their research. If anything, I'd be more concerned of your research on prospects not from Michigan. He might be the best edge in the world to you because he is the only edge your looking at.

How about coming from an Edge rusher himself... Would that be sufficient enough????