Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

And i dont understand how someone cant like him. To want to trade down, draft Allen or Q. I can understand. But to not think he's worthy of the #2 pick is mibd boggling

I don't fudge things up! I think the guy will be good. But also like his dad and brother. His brother doesn't play when his pinky toe hurts, and his dad only lasted 3 seasons. Is he worthy sure. This year. Last year nope. The year before nope. And even though I'm an Allen guy. I think q would make the most impact

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

He's the prince that was promised.

Originally posted by Baylor:

Nobody has a clue how good/average/terrible he will be in the NFL, nor does anyone know if Williams or Bosa will be the better player down the road.

Yes, Baylor. You would think that some people would learn. No one knows who is going to be great, average or bust. It's a projection.

This year's pre-draft seems to be dragging on. I can't wait for the draft to be here already.

Originally posted by Lurker:

Originally posted by Baylor:

Nobody has a clue how good/average/terrible he will be in the NFL, nor does anyone know if Williams or Bosa will be the better player down the road.

Yes, Baylor. You would think that some people would learn. No one knows who is going to be great, average or bust. It's a projection.

This year's pre-draft seems to be dragging on. I can't wait for the draft to be here already.

The draft is a crap shoot.

Originally posted by LVJay:
Many will argue that he's clearly the #1 pick in the draft and the proof is there. Some don't see it that way because it's mostly opinionated POVs...no one knows how any prospect will be once they begin their career in the NFL.

One thing is for certain, the (injury) track record is there...his dad, brother and himself (high school / college). He can be the best of the best for all we know. Some team will take that chance (maybe us). I just hope he's not another Jason Verrett (one of the best when playing, but hardly plays).

That's why I say double dip on the edge rusher position. Bosa and another edge rusher pick in the later rounds. Or, if not this year maybe another edge rusher next year. But I'm concerned about *any* injury to any of our edge rushers that we have on the team. They are hard to find and a rare commodity. That position can singlehandedly turn a franchise around. Fred/Haley/Aldon have done it before, hopefully Bosa/Allen can do that for ShanaLynch.

Originally posted by NYniner85:


It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

What fudging was done? There is a difference between thinking a player isn't worth the No. 2 in a vacuum and thinking about the reality of the situation (team needs, positional value, draft value in picks 2-6 after the first one is spent, etc.). Most of the criticisms here about Bosa are that is a very good player but not the best player available. But even 95% of them will be thrilled if the 49ers draft him.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

And i dont understand how someone cant like him. To want to trade down, draft Allen or Q. I can understand. But to not think he's worthy of the #2 pick is mibd boggling

I don't fudge things up! I think the guy will be good. But also like his dad and brother. His brother doesn't play when his pinky toe hurts, and his dad only lasted 3 seasons. Is he worthy sure. This year. Last year nope. The year before nope. And even though I'm an Allen guy. I think q would make the most impact

Aside from the obvious, there are more things wrong with this, his dad's knee injury probably would have been fixed with today's medical science.

Nick has already torn his ACL and come back strong, that's a big sign that he's able to overcome injury.

Nick Bosa is a stud, he has everything you need to be an effective pass rusher at any level. It's so obvious that anyone who thinks otherwise can't know much about football.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Aside from the obvious, there are more things wrong with this, his dad's knee injury probably would have been fixed with today's medical science.

Nick has already torn his ACL and come back strong, that's a big sign that he's able to overcome injury.

Nick Bosa is a stud, he has everything you need to be an effective pass rusher at any level. It's so obvious that anyone who thinks otherwise can't know much about football.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yes, but injuries are a concern for any player. Also I love when people say lineage means nothing when it comes to ability and production, but it does when it comes to injury?

Yes, but they're alot more of a concern for some players than they are for other players,...which makes as well as takes away millions of dollars in contract agreements every year in the NFL.

Some guys would be clear HOFs but have to retire after several years,....while others freakishly play 10-12 years without having to miss a game.

We're all built a little differently and it is what it is.

Hernia and ACL injuries are not genetic...

If he was coming off an ACL injury which ended this season and he couldn't work out for teams it would be a totally different story. Nobody would be mocking him in the top 5.

He is fully recovered from his ACL injury from HS and has shown that on the football field. He didn't need a redshirt season at OSU to recover. He jumped right in showing he's a quick healer. His #1 status heading into this year was based off the evaluations of his play post ACL injury. That injury is not a concern.

The hernia injury is not one that is an issue for future performance. He's fully healed from that and made the smart decision not to rush back on to the football field to let it FULLY heal.

At this point he's got just as many injury concerns IMO as any other prospect. Reggie Bush, Jimmie Ward both guys had 0 injury concerns coming into the draft. How did that work out for them?

You can't control bad luck. Someone rolls up onto your leg when it's planted and bye bye ACL. Can happen to anyone. Marshon Lattimore had all sorts of hamstring injury issues and yet people want to go back and pretend he should've been our pick at #3 instead of Thomas. Some of those same people are claiming Bosa is injury prone.

Make up your minds...

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NYniner85:


It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

What fudging was done? There is a difference between thinking a player isn't worth the No. 2 in a vacuum and thinking about the reality of the situation (team needs, positional value, draft value in picks 2-6 after the first one is spent, etc.). Most of the criticisms here about Bosa are that is a very good player but not the best player available. But even 95% of them will be thrilled if the 49ers draft him.

I guess you missed the whole Nick Bosa is another Solomon Thomas discussion? Or that Solomon Thomas played edge a lot at Stanford?

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Rosen going to camp. QW is the pick

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's unreal how people who dislike Bosa like to fudge things up to push a narrative.

We get it ya'll don't like him, you don't have to makup things it's makes you look silly.

And i dont understand how someone cant like him. To want to trade down, draft Allen or Q. I can understand. But to not think he's worthy of the #2 pick is mibd boggling

Right? Even if Gire

The nice thing about having another ER to pair with Ford, who's also excellent against the run, is that Saleh can also switch it up and play him inside in race car packages too and run T-E stunts with him. He can essentially play LEO, BE and 3T (nickel).

With Williams, you're limited inside.