Josh Sweat, EDGE, FSU

Sweats measurements are scary good and would suggest a fast explosive pass rusher. Every time was fast and more explosive than Landry. But in film Landry jumps off the screen with his explosion. And I'm not big on Landry at 9 but he has that first step that makes tackles have to put in some extra work prior to facing him.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Sweats measurements are scary good and would suggest a fast explosive pass rusher. Every time was fast and more explosive than Landry. But in film Landry jumps off the screen with his explosion. And I'm not big on Landry at 9 but he has that first step that makes tackles have to put in some extra work prior to facing him.

I will say Landry had a better 20 yard shuttle and their 10 yard spits were pretty close. Kinda bummed that sweat didn't do the 3-cone for whatever reason.

End of the day the film is what matters most imo.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

not the knee the wet tp. On a serious note, love this guys potential and measurables but his games is pretty awful. Hopefully it was scheme and the way he was used as some suggest, or previous injuries, but his late snap reaction is reminiscent of Armstead when he came out.

He was definitely misused at times, but you can't argue that he has a very late get off too often on tape. I'm still too intrigued to pass, tho, if the value is right. He was the first pass rusher I mocked back in may last year....what goes around comes around!

I can't argue the late get off too often on tape? It jumps off the screen on tape, you kidding me? Prove me otherwise. In every game it's consistent. I want to like him too because the measurables, but that first step is arguably the most important measurable for a pass rusher and if you don't have it, everything else is all for naught and the reason he gets stone walled more often than not, even on run plays

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I will say Landry had a better 20 yard shuttle and their 10 yard spits were pretty close. Kinda bummed that sweat didn't do the 3-cone for whatever reason.

End of the day the film is what matters most imo.

Absolutely. Combine is just a tool to answer some questions. But questions can pop up because of the combine as well. It also is a great way to raise eyebrows from lesser known guys. Like for me one of the better combine performers imo was Avonte Maddox and I honestly had not even heard his name prior to the draft. Still searching for more than highlights of him.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I will say Landry had a better 20 yard shuttle and their 10 yard spits were pretty close. Kinda bummed that sweat didn't do the 3-cone for whatever reason.

End of the day the film is what matters most imo.

Absolutely. Combine is just a tool to answer some questions. But questions can pop up because of the combine as well. It also is a great way to raise eyebrows from lesser known guys. Like for me one of the better combine performers imo was Avonte Maddox and I honestly had not even heard his name prior to the draft. Still searching for more than highlights of him.

Good call.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

End of the day the film is what matters most imo.

Always.

Which leads me to one of my draft philosophies: never trust a man who points to a spreadsheet as the basis of their evaluation.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

I can't argue the late get off too often on tape? It jumps off the screen on tape, you kidding me? Prove me otherwise. In every game it's consistent. I want to like him too because the measurables, but that first step is arguably the most important measurable for a pass rusher and if you don't have it, everything else is all for naught and the reason he gets stone walled more often than not, even on run plays

Sorry, grammatical error. I meant to say it's not arguable, or up for discussion, if he has a terrible get off. We're both saying the same thing, albeit incoherently on my end. You CANT argue, his get off is terrible

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

I can't argue the late get off too often on tape? It jumps off the screen on tape, you kidding me? Prove me otherwise. In every game it's consistent. I want to like him too because the measurables, but that first step is arguably the most important measurable for a pass rusher and if you don't have it, everything else is all for naught and the reason he gets stone walled more often than not, even on run plays

Sorry, grammatical error. I meant to say it's not arguable, or up for discussion, if he has a terrible get off. We're both saying the same thing, albeit incoherently on my end. You CANT argue, his get off is terrible

I can't get behind Sweat until the 3rd round...and even then I would probably prefer we go in another direction.

Originally posted by genus49:
I can't get behind Sweat until the 3rd round...and even then I would probably prefer we go in another direction.

Lucky! I can get behind sweat in just a few minutes, if I'm working hard enough.

If this dude fires off the ball like this in the NFL, watch out.

Did we meet with him at the combine?

Originally posted by Dillesq:
Did we meet with him at the combine?

It wasn't reported if they did.

The potential on this kid is through the roof. Trade up in the 2nd and let him be our edge rusher with that 4.53 40.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

The potential on this kid is through the roof. Trade up in the 2nd and let him be our edge rusher with that 4.53 40.

Essentially every Josh Sweat play he made in the backfield in 2017.

Looking back on my notes, there's a lot of Danielle Hunter to his game. High end athlete who showed he can dominant vs the run. Flashed pass rushing skill but played out of position.These are the guys you bet on pic.twitter.com/DgDSyTEKyT

— KP (@KP_Show) March 19, 2018

40 time isn't the end all with pass rushers. Sweat has talent but let's not get overhyped cuz of the combine. He flashed enough but he has injury history and consistency has not been there at all.

Landry had 2 more sacks as a junior than Sweat had in his whole career at FSU and the dude declared after a pretty uneventful junior season with only 5.5 sacks. That scares me...

Red flags to me for a guy who's living off his athletic ability. If he's there in the 2nd I can deal with it but would prefer him in the 3rd if he was our target. Definitely not worth moving up for IMO.