Josh Sweat, EDGE, FSU

Originally posted by Dillesq:

All aboard the Josh's Sweat hype train!!!

How about Davenport in first and Sweat in 2nd round??

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
How about Davenport in first and Sweat in 2nd round??

Negative.

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:

How about Davenport in first and Sweat in 2nd round??

No. I'm not too keen on Davenport. He's a project. Sweat would be great in our scheme. We could also look at other athletic edge guys like Jeff Holland later.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

It was a gruesome injury, but he has been playing on that knee since 2015, so it's not like a wet piece of toilet paper or anything.

not the knee the wet tp. On a serious note, love this guys potential and measurables but his games is pretty awful. Hopefully it was scheme and the way he was used as some suggest, or previous injuries, but his late snap reaction is reminiscent of Armstead when he came out.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

not the knee the wet tp. On a serious note, love this guys potential and measurables but his games is pretty awful. Hopefully it was scheme and the way he was used as some suggest, or previous injuries, but his late snap reaction is reminiscent of Armstead when he came out.

He was definitely misused at times, but you can't argue that he has a very late get off too often on tape. I'm still too intrigued to pass, tho, if the value is right. He was the first pass rusher I mocked back in may last year....what goes around comes around!

Remember, when drafting, you have to differentiate between issues that are coachable and non-coachable. 84 in wingspan and 4.53 is uncoachable. Late out of your stance is coachable.

Originally posted by suckafree17:
Remember, when drafting, you have to differentiate between issues that are coachable and non-coachable. 84 in wingspan and 4.53 is uncoachable. Late out of your stance is coachable.

Right. And he was played inside as opposed to where he shouldve been which is on the edge. He will be a steal if we can get him

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Right. And he was played inside as opposed to where he shouldve been which is on the edge. He will be a steal if we can get him

You keep on saying he didn't play the edge, which just isn't true.


He doesn't turn the corner like Landry off the edge. I think sweat does have a chance to be very good, if he works on his get off which he seems to be slow at. He moved his way up the draft with his combine. I doubt he will be there in the late 2nd.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dillesq:
Right. And he was played inside as opposed to where he shouldve been which is on the edge. He will be a steal if we can get him

You keep on saying he didn't play the edge, which just isn't true.

Josh Sweat can do a nice job of bending the edge, but he has a hard time turning the corner through contact and his progress can be halted just like that. Not a pure bender, but enough of one to take advantage of creating space with his hands.

Also LJ is insane. pic.twitter.com/TetsCDDjCV

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He doesn't have the bend like Landry off the edge. I think sweat does have a chance to be very good, if he works on his get off which he seems to be slow at. He moved his way up the draft with his combine. I doubt he will be there in the late 2nd.

When I say that I mean he wasn't exclusively used as an edge player. He was used on the inside a lot. A lot of FSU fans hate their DC because of how idiotically he played his players like Sweat.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

When I say that I mean he wasn't exclusively used as an edge player. He was used on the inside a lot. A lot of FSU fans hate their DC because of how idiotically he played his players like Sweat.

Honestly not sure what everyone is seeing here, 90% of his pass snaps were on the edge. His gett off his awful, there's nothing consistent about his play.



I really want to like him, I do lol.

Traits>>>>

Technique can be coached. Get off can be coached. Traits cannot

Maybe they played him inside cause he has no explosion on the edge

Arik Armstead still has that problem to this day. Sometimes it's between the ears, ie. intrinsic reaction time, focus, etc.

It looks like he is thinking to much when he's rushing. It's not coming to him naturally I love his measurables and think him and Noah Spence need to stop with this 4 point stance nonsense. With Sweat I think he just needs to stop thinking and attack.

Originally posted by Dillesq:
Traits>>>>

Technique can be coached. Get off can be coached. Traits cannot

What traits are you seeing outside of measureables? I don't see it. All I see is him late of the ball and running into the tackle on 80% of his rushes. He should be dominating those tackles from NC state.

IMO he's in the same boat as Lorenzo carter (which you hate I know)

Both were 5 star recruits with insane measurables, both were surrounded by elite talent, and both didn't develop. I'd like to see a full yr of consistency, if you're going bang the drum with him as our top edge guy. Now if you want to draft a couple mid-rd edge rushers and see what sticks that's fine...I think people are all tight in the pants based off his combine and aren't watching what he did on the field.

Like I said, I really want to like him I do.