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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:one guy played through injury is equal to a healthy guy ?
Originally posted by genus49:Thomas might just vanish in the middle of the Line. i don't think he's the Sapp type dominant player. but he could benefit from the other guys being on the DL too
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
one guy played through injury is equal to a healthy guy ?
I think the question people have when trying to find holes in Garrett's game is how much was due to injury and how much is due to just not giving max effort.
I think Garrett is the best player in this draft due to the mix of everything but it wouldn't hurt to see more fire out of him and it wouldn't shock me if Thomas was the better pro 5 years from now.
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:Lombardi was on 95 7 the game today talking about the Niners choices at number two. he said he would take Jonathan Allen if Medicals check out
When asked about Solomon Thomas he said he loves the player but is confused as to why he is being mocked to the Niners so frequently, as he sees, and I'm paraphrasing here, roster redundancy. he sees Thomas as an edge contain player for base downs and an interior rusher in nickel, in which she also sees Buckner and, to a lesser extent, Armstead as being an interior rusher he also questions if Thomas has the necessary length to be an effective one Gapper in the NFL full time.
Obviously this should not be taken as gospel but I am inclined to agree with his assessment. Thomas is certainly an upgrade to our DL, but we can literally upgrade every single position on our roster. There are bigger, more impactful upgrades to be had at 2.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Thomas might just vanish in the middle of the Line. i don't think he's the Sapp type dominant player. but he could benefit from the other guys being on the DL too
Aldon Smith wasn't a high motor guy ethier and we didn't need him to run sideline to sideline like a LB
But if having the choice between the two..it has to be garrett
Originally posted by genus49:yeah no doubt drive is the heart of all great players. a lot of things can spark that drive and a lot of things can put that fire out
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Thomas might just vanish in the middle of the Line. i don't think he's the Sapp type dominant player. but he could benefit from the other guys being on the DL too
Aldon Smith wasn't a high motor guy ethier and we didn't need him to run sideline to sideline like a LB
But if having the choice between the two..it has to be garrett
I agree just pointing out that we've seen plenty of cases of lesser talented or physically talented players having better careers due to their drive, passion and work ethic.
Tom Brady is the perfect example of this.
Jerry Rice being better than Randy Moss is another.
Rice wasn't a slouch in the athletic department himself but down a clear notch physically/athletically/speed wise from Moss and yet he just worked harder.
Similar situation.
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Lombardi was on 95 7 the game today talking about the Niners choices at number two. he said he would take Jonathan Allen if Medicals check out
When asked about Solomon Thomas he said he loves the player but is confused as to why he is being mocked to the Niners so frequently, as he sees, and I'm paraphrasing here, roster redundancy. he sees Thomas as an edge contain player for base downs and an interior rusher in nickel, in which she also sees Buckner and, to a lesser extent, Armstead as being an interior rusher he also questions if Thomas has the necessary length to be an effective one Gapper in the NFL full time.
Obviously this should not be taken as gospel but I am inclined to agree with his assessment. Thomas is certainly an upgrade to our DL, but we can literally upgrade every single position on our roster. There are bigger, more impactful upgrades to be had at 2.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:If we don't draft Thomas at 2 where does he most likely go?
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
If we don't draft Thomas at 2 where does he most likely go?
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:Anyone but this guy at 2
Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by adrianlesnar:Lombardi was on 95 7 the game today talking about the Niners choices at number two. he said he would take Jonathan Allen if Medicals check out
When asked about Solomon Thomas he said he loves the player but is confused as to why he is being mocked to the Niners so frequently, as he sees, and I'm paraphrasing here, roster redundancy. he sees Thomas as an edge contain player for base downs and an interior rusher in nickel, in which she also sees Buckner and, to a lesser extent, Armstead as being an interior rusher he also questions if Thomas has the necessary length to be an effective one Gapper in the NFL full time.
Obviously this should not be taken as gospel but I am inclined to agree with his assessment. Thomas is certainly an upgrade to our DL, but we can literally upgrade every single position on our roster. There are bigger, more impactful upgrades to be had at 2.
Upgrading our DL has a major effect on the rest of the defense. Armstead still has to prove he's a starter. With only Buckner being a proven player you add talent on the DL and not worry about redundancy.
This isn't a RB or QB or other positions where you really only have one guy out there.
More studs you get on the DL the harder it is for the OL to block them. It allows other players to make plays.
Outside of QB or WR you can argue a rookie isn't necessarily an upgrade over a vet.
Safety - Jimmie Ward/Reid/Tartt
Corner - Robinson/Redmond etc
RB - Hyde...if he's healthy he's not just giving his job away.
LB - Bowman
etc...
Originally posted by jreff22:Redmond hasn't shown anything.
Ward has shown nothing at safety worth a draft bypass
Tartt hasn't done anything great
Can Reid stay consussiom free at SS?
Can Tartt actually be trusted to start?
We have major ? at CB.
Adams would be the best SS on the roster
Hooker would be the best FS on the roster
The top 3 CB's would most likely start day 1