Solomon Thomas--Stanford

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, in laymen's terms, I don't think there is any question where these players are best suited for and Thomas is a perfect fit for the 3T (yes, he'll pack on some pounds and strength to become more stout there over the years and play closer to 290-300).

LDE/5T = Stout run defender, can help seal the edge first and foremost, funnel, TFL and modest QB pressures/sacks (Buckner)
NT/1T = Your 3-4 classic NT like Dorsey, Sopoaga, Carter, Wilfork, B. & I.Williams, etc. (Mitchell)
RDT/3T = Your best interior pass rusher who's also stout against the run (Thomas)
LEO = Your best speed edge rusher; he lines up out wide often like Garrett, Miller, Aldon, Ware, etc. (Vacant)

Fans are talking about sub packages. This is a base 4 down DL. That won't change, even in a sub package. The player that is usually sub'd out is the SAM for an extra DB. If anyone will be sub'd out on the DL it will be for additional pass rush like Blair/Armstead in for Mitchell or another strong pass rusher like Frank Clark for Buckner.

Sadly, with 3 first round picks and even with Thomas, we're still missing a true NT and LEO. That's the part that sucks ass. In fact, we need about 3 true edge rushers for optimal success.

Mitchell can and will play the NT/1T but he's not the wide-bodied plugger who takes up two every down and is impossible to run on (hence why we went after Brandon Williams). And Lynch will start out at LEO most likely b/c he's our best pas rusher but he's no LEO. We're going to have to find some real edge rushers this draft and make it a priority.

Originally posted by NCommand:

NY, of this list, who do you think has the best shot at being our LEO?

Originally posted by jreff22:

If there isn't a FQB the next greatest need is a dedicated edge rusher. Since Aldon left there has been a giant void and the problem isn't going away by ignoring it and drafting mid round guys.

Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
What makes it a terrible comp?

Originally posted by Ninerfan84:

He's so irrelevant you don't even know his name, lol. It's Brooks Reed not Brock.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Agreed. There's a lot of versatility to what we can do. Seattle originally had Red Bryant at 5, then they went to Bennett, now they're deemphasizing the Sam for some $ backer looks but the one need we desperately have is finding some good edge rushers. Between Bennett, Avril, Irvin/ Clark they're loaded. I have no doubt Thomas will be a great pickup but we still got a lot if work to do no matter what.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Thomas is no Michael Bennett. That's a terrible comparison. He is more like our own, Bryant Young.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
NY, of this list, who do you think has the best shot at being our LEO?

Harris
Take
Williams
Willis
Watt
Rivers
Bowser seems like a SAM

There's no way they all get drafted before 34 and if that happens a very good prospect at another position will fall.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

NY, of this list, who do you think has the best shot at being our LEO?

Harris
Take
Williams
Willis
Watt
Rivers
Bowser seems like a SAM

There's no way they all get drafted before 34 and if that happens a very good prospect at another position will fall.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

NY, of this list, who do you think has the best shot at being our LEO?

Harris
Take
Williams
Willis
Watt
Rivers
Bowser seems like a SAM

There's no way they all get drafted before 34 and if that happens a very good prospect at another position will fall.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Thomas is no Michael Bennett. That's a terrible comparison. He is more like our own, Bryant Young.

Just about every draft analysis is saying he's a Bennett/justin smith as far as comps go...if he's Bryant young then hot damn there shouldn't be any debating going on

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude all you've been doing is comparing players to Seattle/jag players and that's how we have to do it. How many times have you thrown out the name Avril and McDaniel?

CBs big Board has these edge rushers ranked right around where we are picking at 34.

Takkarist McKinley-34th overall prospect
Charles Harris-32nd
Tim Williams-38th
T.J. Watt-41st
Tyus Bowser-67th
Jordan Willis-72nd
Derek Rivers-82nd
Ryan Anderson-92nd
Devonte Fields-150

drafting a OG has nothing to with trade comp, they don't know who we're drafting....I have zero peoblem moving up for one of the edge rushers or waiting for one to be there.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

You really think Lynch and Bowser will hold up at Leo and Sam? We're going to have to do a lot more than that. I get it's not a 1 rebuild but you're throwing out our 1st and 2nd round picks and we still have a sh line.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Ninerfan84:

What makes it a terrible comp?

For starters, Thomas is not a natural edge rusher on any level. Michael Bennett is and that's why he can toggle between the 5T and LEO. He's also so good against the run (hence we he plays the 5T mostly), they've used his pass rush on the interior at times. But he's a true edge rusher and whether it's Bennett, Irvin, Clark, etc. you can rotate them on the ends. Just like we'd rotate Micthell, Armstead, Thomas and Blair inside.

Originally posted by SteveYoung:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

You really think Lynch and Bowser will hold up at Leo and Sam? We're going to have to do a lot more than that. I get it's not a 1 rebuild but you're throwing out our 1st and 2nd round picks and we still have a sh line.

Lynch is garbage. Bowser? Meh

Give me Ryan Anderson or Jarrad Davis for SAM and Jordan Willis for LEO.