Mitch "Mr Biscuit" Trubisky-QB-North Carolina

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Romo? Because if you're talking about Brady, Parcells wasn't around for Brady.

And nobody knew what they had with Brady, he was late round flyer, not even the first or second guy that they drafted in the 6th round, the Patriots went to the Circle K, bought a lottery ticket and hit the jackpot. That was pure luck, not scouting excellence.

Don Shula put it best.

" "He was there," Shula said. "When you take somebody that late in the draft, obviously you don't have great convictions about him. Otherwise you would have taken him a lot earlier."

Yes I'm talking Romo.

Originally posted by jcs:
Yes I'm talking Romo.

When you take a guy undrafted you can't claim "hah, we knew it all along." Cowboys went dumpster diving and found a gem. Sometimes it comes down to getting lucky and that is exactly what happened.

Originally posted by Heroism:

if Trubisky really does come in at 6'1", there is zero chance he can be taken at 2. None.

You really think 1 inch is going to stop a team from drafting the guy?

Is that all you gleaned from my post? Did you choose to completely ignore the massive elephant in the room that is his inexorably handicapping mechanical flaws?


The height compounds the issue. You start adding to the list of cons: cripplingly terrible mechanics, 1 year as a starter, shorter than listed, etc. I was so excited with Mitch, but something looked off when I watched his tape. I couldn't figure it out, but I finally identified it. It saddens me to diagnose what was going on. It completely ruined him for me.

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
You really think 1 inch is going to stop a team from drafting the guy?

Drafting...no....

Drafting in the top 10...yes...

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
You really think 1 inch is going to stop a team from drafting the guy?

Drafting...no....

Drafting in the top 10...yes...

So a team is ready to take him at 1 or 2, but he comes in measuring an inch shorter than those teams thought, and so they pass on him? Seriously?

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
So a team is ready to take him at 1 or 2, but he comes in measuring an inch shorter than those teams thought, and so they pass on him? Seriously?

He's listed at 6-3...if he comes in at 6-1 and has the tiny hands that are expected to go with the short arms...yes. No guarantees he even cracks 4.7 in the 40 either.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
So a team is ready to take him at 1 or 2, but he comes in measuring an inch shorter than those teams thought, and so they pass on him? Seriously?

He's listed at 6-3...if he comes in at 6-1 and has the tiny hands that are expected to go with the short arms...yes. No guarantees he even cracks 4.7 in the 40 either.

I guarantee you zero teams give a f**k about his 40 time.

And if a team thinks he's 6'3 & says to themselves, "This guy is going to be great" but then changes their minds because he's 6'1... I mean maybe the Browns are that dumb. But that's it.

Originally posted by NinerSickness:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
So a team is ready to take him at 1 or 2, but he comes in measuring an inch shorter than those teams thought, and so they pass on him? Seriously?

He's listed at 6-3...if he comes in at 6-1 and has the tiny hands that are expected to go with the short arms...yes. No guarantees he even cracks 4.7 in the 40 either.

I guarantee you zero teams give a f**k about his 40 time.

And if a team thinks he's 6'3 & says to themselves, "This guy is going to be great" but then changes their minds because he's 6'1... I mean maybe the Browns are that dumb. But that's it.

I think that only 3 QBs listed 6'1" have been taken in round 1 (last being Johnny Manziel).

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NinerSickness:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
So a team is ready to take him at 1 or 2, but he comes in measuring an inch shorter than those teams thought, and so they pass on him? Seriously?

He's listed at 6-3...if he comes in at 6-1 and has the tiny hands that are expected to go with the short arms...yes. No guarantees he even cracks 4.7 in the 40 either.

I guarantee you zero teams give a f**k about his 40 time.

And if a team thinks he's 6'3 & says to themselves, "This guy is going to be great" but then changes their minds because he's 6'1... I mean maybe the Browns are that dumb. But that's it.

I think that only 3 QBs listed 6'1" have been taken in round 1 (last being Johnny Manziel).

That's amazingly faulty logic if you're trying to say a team who think he's a great QB will pass on him if he's not as tall as they thought.

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
That's amazingly faulty logic if you're trying to say a team who think he's a great QB will pass on him if he's not as tall as they thought.

He'll get drafted in the first round...we are talking the difference between a top 10 and remaining pick in the round. I know you hate to hear this but measurables matter at the top of the draft. It's why guys like Brees slipped to the 2nd round.

Originally posted by NinerSickness:
That's amazingly faulty logic if you're trying to say a team who think he's a great QB will pass on him if he's not as tall as they thought.

Or maybe... just maybe... There is a reason shorter QBs drop in the draft.

dbl

I can promise you that a coach as shrewd and meticulous as kyle shanahan will not gloss over those flaws I pointed out on the last page. they'll jump off the screen to him as massive red flags.

in my mind, there's zero chance trubisky goes at 2. mike shanahan disliked rg3 for many reasons, but his terrible mechanics were a huge part of those reason.

Immediately, coaches noticed major flaws in Griffin's passing mechanics. There's a beat to the three-, five-, and seven-step drop, and Griffin didn't have it. If a right-handed quarterback is throwing to his right, he must close down his left shoulder so it's in line with the midpoint of his target. Too often, Griffin's shoulder was wide open. On passes to the left, which require more detailed footwork for right-handers, Griffin was repeatedly out of rhythm. Although Griffin had top-notch arm strength, his tempo was off. That's a problem because if a quarterback isn't in sync with the rest of the offense, the play is over before it starts.