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Mitch "Mr Biscuit" Trubisky-QB-North Carolina

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Who know where he will get drafted:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000785165/article/scout-uncs-mitch-trubisky-is-top-two-or-three-draft-pick

If Cleveland takes him (which I doubt), we get Myles Garrett. Based upon the feeling this past week of Lynch and Shanahan, most likely we get someone else at 2 or trade down.

Bears probably grab him at 3.
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Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by thl408:
Out of these games, which are against a good defense? I don't know college football so I'm looking for help. I watched the Georgia game (top20 defense) then realized that was his first start of the season.

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/mitch-trubisky/

Watch the Stanford tape. It was probably his worst game but he led them back and on the final drive his WRs dropped 2 or 3 passes in the end zone. He threw a TD but Solomon Thomas destroyed the 2pt try. It shows him at his worst, but he still plays a good game overall.

Another game to watch is VS Pitt. Ejuan Price is constantly in his face but Mitch showed great poise and had some pretty throws

Thanks. I don't want to see his highlights, I want to see his lowlights and see how he plays against good defenses so your suggestions help. Having watched one game (Georgia) the guy has very good arm strength and quick feet, although his feet are wild. He definitely seems like a quick twitch athlete.
I'm probably not the first person to mention this, but he reminds me of a younger/more raw version of Jimmy Garappolo.
Mitch or Watson has to be the pick at 2 if Niners don't win Jimmy G sweepstakes. Would be perfectly fine even if he sits the entire year to learn since niners are viewed as a long term project anyways.
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Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Mitch or Watson has to be the pick at 2 if Niners don't win Jimmy G sweepstakes. Would be perfectly fine even if he sits the entire year to learn since niners are viewed as a long term project anyways.

This.
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Mitch or Watson has to be the pick at 2 if Niners don't win Jimmy G sweepstakes. Would be perfectly fine even if he sits the entire year to learn since niners are viewed as a long term project anyways.

This.

Absolutely this!!
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Originally posted by Rascal:
Absolutely this!!

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http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2016/11/film-review-can-mitch-trubisky-be-a-successful-nfl-quarterback

"Positives
Looks the part; prototypical size, build and arm strength
Shows excellent accuracy and touch, particularly on throws in the intermediate portion of the field
Good leadership and command of the offense
Good athleticism; can scramble out of trouble and hurt opponents with his legs

Negatives
Lack of experience
Extremely talented supporting cast and offensive system inflate his stats
Inconsistent mechanics and footwork
Poor deep ball accuracy"
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http://www.qbmecca.com/differentiating-poor-mechanics-versus-inconsistent-mechanics/

"Mitch Trubisky

Before this gets out of hand, it should be established that Mitch Trubisky is not a bad quarterback prospect. He is a quality prospect who should turn out as a passable starting quarterback in the NFL. That being said, his post-drop footwork is consistently problematic, especially when throwing to his left or when throwing vertically.

Trubisky's first fault is progressively leaning back as he looks for a receiver and prepares to throw. By forcing that much weight on his back foot, Trubisky is forcing himself to exert unnecessary effort to bring his body forward, which is one of many ways that a quarterback can disrupt the synchronization of his throwing motion. Rearing back also makes it near impossible for Trubisky to properly use his plant foot. In the clip above, his plant foot is dangling in the air for a second, then is barely planted in the ground when Trubisky goes to throw.

The second error Trubisky makes is not following through with his motion. Trubisky does not follow through his motion and does not get any snap at the end of his rotation, leaving him to loft the ball rather than truly throw it. Trubisky restricted any chance of properly driving on the ball and putting this throw on a line.

This is a recurring issue for Trubisky. That is not to say he does this every time he goes vertically, but it shows up multiple times in each game and it's a tough theme to ignore."
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http://nflmocks.com/2017/01/13/mitch-trubisky-qb-north-carolina-2017-nfl-draft-scouting-report/

"Mitch Trubisky displays marginal mental processing skills post-snap, as he struggles to recognize disguised coverages. The Sun Bowl provided a perfect example of this as Trubisky does not recognize the safety is lined up in man coverage against the running back. He doesn't see the defender until it is too late, resulting in a Stanford interception returned for a touchdown.

If a defense isn't disguising the coverage, Trubisky can pick it apart. However he does not currently possess the mental processing skills needed to quickly read defensive adjustments post-snap, especially from linebackers and safeties in the middle of the field. That's a big reason why five of his six interceptions thrown in 2016 were picked off by either a safety or linebacker.

He exhibits marginal poise in the pocket, as he panics when unable to escape the pocket laterally. Trubisky has a tendency to continue backpedaling in the pocket, rather than step up. Pressure also heavily impacts Trubisky's mechanics. As seen in the plays below, Trubisky leans away from the pressure, causing his footwork to become sloppy. When anticipating the pressure, his hips become stiff and his passes sail high as a result of not following through with his body.

As a runner, Trubisky must learn to slide feet first to avoid taking unnecessary hits. He currently slides head first to maximize yardage.

Trubisky displays poor mental toughness on the field. He's a very streaky quarterback who struggles to bounce back from mistakes. In 2016, he turned the ball over nine times (six interceptions and three lost fumbles). On drives following those nine turnovers, he drove the Tar Heels downfield to score a grand total of three points. His 0.33 points per drive following a turnover is well below that of other potential early 2017 NFL Draft picks at QB, such as Deshaun Watson (3.46), Patrick Mahomes (2.87) and DeShone Kizer (2.55).

There are concerns regarding Trubisky and how much of his success was a result of the system he was in. Marquise Williams, who started at QB before Trubisky, was even more productive, averaging close to 50 more yards per game and 8.4 additional points per game a year ago. The 32.3 points per game scored with Trubisky as the starter was the lowest in head coach Larry Fedora's five-year career with the school. Not only was the North Carolina offense less productive, but the team's record also took a hit. After winning 11 games in 2015, the Tar Heels dropped to 8-5 overall in 2016 and 6-5 against FBS competition."
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Strengths:

+ Has some overthrows on tape, but is more-often-than-not accurate on deep balls. Displays good touch, and can fit the ball into some tight windows. Very accurate on intermediate throws. Pushes the ball, not a check-down quarterback.

+ Has good pocket awareness- feels and senses pressure and isn't afraid to step-up in the pocket to buy some time. Displays good footwork when given a clean pocket to throw. ​Has good bounce in his feet and stays on his toes.

+ Isn't scared to take a hit. Can accurately deliver balls to targets with a defender in his face.

+ Playmaker with his legs. Can run for the first, and can also use his legs to buy time as a passer. Keeps eyes downfield looking for the open man.

+ Good decision maker. Doesn't make many bonehead throws that so many quarterbacks are plagued with.

Weaknesses:

- Not very adept at going through his reads. Has a bad habit of staring down receivers. Needs to improve on going through his progressions. Can be indecisive at times which leads to being late on some throws.

- Has what I call the Blake Bortles syndrome- an ugly throwing habit where he doesn't consistently follow through with his hips. At times will move his front (left) leg back, putting himself in a position where he is completely squared with the receiver he is attempting to throw the ball to. The ball flutters and sails. This is a major red flag, as we have seen a number of highly touted quarterbacks struggle to fix this issue once in the NFL.

- Will at times panic when pressure is coming and get "happy feet", where his feet are uneasy and all over the place. Leads to some inaccurate throws. In most cases this happens when blitzed.

- Has a habit of holding onto the ball for too long when he should be getting rid of the ball, whether it be to a checkdown or simply throwing the ball out of bounds.

- Didn't become a starter until his final year at North Carolina. While he had a terrific year, it is somewhat concerning that he wasn't able to win the job sooner from an inferior player.

Player Comparison: Christian Ponder with some Blake Bortles mixed in.

GIF Scouting Bust Percentage: 55%

Player Grade: 7.6

http://www.gifscouting.com/mitch-trubisky.html
#2 is a massive flaw I've also noticed when watching Trubisky more closely. When he throws to his left, he has a habit of stepping completely perpendicular to his target instead of towards it before he even starts his delivery. His upper and lower body are not synchronized. I kept asking myself why something just doesn't look right at times when he throws, and I finally pinpointed that. He basically throws without his lower body in a lot of those throws to his left.

Pay attention to those gifs up above. Look closely at how he is fading away to his left once the ball leaves his hand. That's not good.


This is definitely a glaring flaw in his game he'll have to address.
[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 12, 2017 at 12:01 AM ]
Fired up the Stanford film, and it took me a minute to find an example:



you can really see it here. gross.



takes that funky side step he constantly does towards the sun bowl/unc logo rather than his target. this leads to that awkwardly tall posture, that wide throwing base and basically removes most of the power from his hips and weight transfer. once the ball leaves his hands, he's almost falling in the direction of that funky side step leg rather than towards his target. it almost makes it look like he's hopping as he throws the ball. he's basically muscling these throws. his body has little synchronicity.



conversely, watson has beautiful mechanics. note the direction of the first step and how well he transfers weight from his back leg to his front leg. Completely different than trubisky. watson throws with excellent posture and body synchronicity. his entire body is under control throughout his throw.

Side note: Watson is so money with the fade throws.

[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 12, 2017 at 12:48 AM ]
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If this came true, that would be pretty sweet.

http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/02/11/49ers-offense-gets-boost-in-two-round-mock-nfl-draft/
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