Melvin Gordon - RB - Wisconsin

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
No doubt Gordon is a special guy. To me, he and Coleman will be outstanding pros. I think he has a good chance of going above us in a lean draft year. We will see

I think it's really possible we may have to trade up a few slots to get him. He may be worth it too. I would take him at 15 for sure if he falls to us. He is not an ordinary RB. You can devalue RB's as much as people want. But this one is WORTH top 15 IMO.

I think Gordon is good enough to warrant top 10 even top 5 consideration. Remember Trent Richardson was a top 5 pick only 2 years ago. And I think Gordon is a much better prospect than him!

Originally posted by LZRD_WZRD:
I think Gordon is good enough to warrant top 10 even top 5 consideration. Remember Trent Richardson was a top 5 pick only 2 years ago. And I think Gordon is a much better prospect than him!

I agree he is a better prospect than Trent Richardson. I also agree top 5 or top 10 may happen for him. There is already talk about the Vikings taking him at #11. Who knows who wants him above that?

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by daragon:
There is no way that the 49ers draft this guy. We draft too early to take him in the first, and too late to draft him in the second. Yes, we can move back in the first, but I don't think it would be for a RB. We will likely take a RB in the draft, but we can get great talent to compliment Hyde in the 2nd - 4th round. I invision the 49ers taking a stud DL or WR in the first. Outside of those two positions, I just don't see it.

Exactly.

The drop off between Gordon and a back we can get in the 2nd or 3rd is not very big IMO. The drop off between 1st round WR/DL and those in the 2nd or 3rd is huge.

This is not a draft to trade back in.

This is the issue here which is why I'm in favor of receiver (1), DL (2) and RB (3). We will essentially miss out on a five year starter at WR if we take Melvin Gordon in the first. We end up with a raw prospect that needs too much development or is more of a one trick pony by waiting until the second. It really allow boils down to the best combination of talent and I can't see a better one than what I listed above, based on who is likely available.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by LZRD_WZRD:

I think Gordon is good enough to warrant top 10 even top 5 consideration. Remember Trent Richardson was a top 5 pick only 2 years ago. And I think Gordon is a much better prospect than him!

I agree he is a better prospect than Trent Richardson. I also agree top 5 or top 10 may happen for him. There is already talk about the Vikings taking him at #11. Who knows who wants him above that?

Potential teams in the top 20: Jags (#3), Jets (#6), Falcons (#8), Rams (#10), Vikings (#11).

I'm not really sure the 49ers will pick him unless he is clearly BPA when they pick.

I love Gordon, but I think we have go with a WR in the 1st and then consider a RB in the second

But boy, if Gordon is the next great RB, how do you justify passing on him? You point to the busts of the past decade, like McFadden, Richardson, Bush, Benson, Cadillac etc. None of those players became the elite backs they were supposed to be. Meanwhile you've got stars like Charles, McCoy, Rice, Jones-Drew, Foster, Gore etc who were drafted after the 1st.

There's been a steady stream of bad luck for teams drafting RBs in the 1st (except for the Vikings with AP) that's hard to overlook. Even Marshawn Lynch was a bust for his original team, the Bills. Then you got Chris Johnson who had 3 great seasons then became rather average and is now pretty much washed up 7 seasons in.

The point here is that the value of these backs in the 1st round is just not there. Picking a RB in the first is a bad investment given recent years. Even those that aren't outright busts often never justify their position (Bush, Stewart, Spiller, Matthews etc).

But maybe Gordon is that next back that will succeed. Maybe he's the back that will make teams covet the elite talent at the position early in the draft again. I think he is, but nonetheless I think many teams will be cautious with him and his position.

A high round pick on a RB would be such a wasted pick we have more pressin needs ... D-line ,O-line ,WR ,CB ....

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
A high round pick on a RB would be such a wasted pick we have more pressin needs ... D-line ,O-line ,WR ,CB ....

Gore will probably not be back. Hyde is more of a thumper than a speed back. We do need RB.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

A high round pick on a RB would be such a wasted pick we have more pressin needs ... D-line ,O-line ,WR ,CB ....

Gore will probably not be back. Hyde is more of a thumper than a speed back. We do need RB.

But Gordon should be a 3-down back in the NFL. Hyde I think is as well. I think a better value supplement for Hyde is a guy like Duke Johnson. Gordon would in effect replace Hyde while Johnson would complement him.

Originally posted by LZRD_WZRD:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
A high round pick on a RB would be such a wasted pick we have more pressin needs ... D-line ,O-line ,WR ,CB ....

Gore will probably not be back. Hyde is more of a thumper than a speed back. We do need RB.

But Gordon should be a 3-down back in the NFL. Hyde I think is as well. I think a better value supplement for Hyde is a guy like Duke Johnson. Gordon would in effect replace Hyde while Johnson would complement him.

I understand that and on paper it might make more sense to get Duke Johnson to be more of a change-of-pace back, but I believe you can split the downs more evenly between Hyde and Gordon. I believe we need maximum firepower and more importantly physicality when we go up against Seattle. I think Gordon is just a bigger and more physical runner than Johnson. To add, I can guarantee you Pete Carroll will be drafting either Gurley or Gordon to replace Beast Mode in due course. If we end up having to face Gordon as a Seahawk, I would be mega pis*ed !!

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

A high round pick on a RB would be such a wasted pick we have more pressin needs ... D-line ,O-line ,WR ,CB ....

Gore will probably not be back. Hyde is more of a thumper than a speed back. We do need RB.

but we all know u can strike gold with a late round RB or even a undrafted RB no need to spend a high round pick on one ...

Have Melvin / Hyde compete like Amp Lee / Ricky Running Watters

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by LZRD_WZRD:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

A high round pick on a RB would be such a wasted pick we have more pressin needs ... D-line ,O-line ,WR ,CB ....

Gore will probably not be back. Hyde is more of a thumper than a speed back. We do need RB.

But Gordon should be a 3-down back in the NFL. Hyde I think is as well. I think a better value supplement for Hyde is a guy like Duke Johnson. Gordon would in effect replace Hyde while Johnson would complement him.

I understand that and on paper it might make more sense to get Duke Johnson to be more of a change-of-pace back, but I believe you can split the downs more evenly between Hyde and Gordon. I believe we need maximum firepower and more importantly physicality when we go up against Seattle. I think Gordon is just a bigger and more physical runner than Johnson. To add, I can guarantee you Pete Carroll will be drafting either Gurley or Gordon to replace Beast Mode in due course. If we end up having to face Gordon as a Seahawk, I would be mega pis*ed !!

Unless the plan is to make Gordon our premier back, I don't see the logic in drafting a running back in the top 15 to split carries.

Originally posted by LZRD_WZRD:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by LZRD_WZRD:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
A high round pick on a RB would be such a wasted pick we have more pressin needs ... D-line ,O-line ,WR ,CB ....

Gore will probably not be back. Hyde is more of a thumper than a speed back. We do need RB.

But Gordon should be a 3-down back in the NFL. Hyde I think is as well. I think a better value supplement for Hyde is a guy like Duke Johnson. Gordon would in effect replace Hyde while Johnson would complement him.

I understand that and on paper it might make more sense to get Duke Johnson to be more of a change-of-pace back, but I believe you can split the downs more evenly between Hyde and Gordon. I believe we need maximum firepower and more importantly physicality when we go up against Seattle. I think Gordon is just a bigger and more physical runner than Johnson. To add, I can guarantee you Pete Carroll will be drafting either Gurley or Gordon to replace Beast Mode in due course. If we end up having to face Gordon as a Seahawk, I would be mega pis*ed !!

Unless the plan is to make Gordon our premier back, I don't see the logic in drafting a running back in the top 15 to split carries.

I know where you are coming from, but like I said I don't want Seattle to become even more of a power house than they already are with their run game. If they get Gordon, their RB corps will be leaps and bounds ahead of us.

Originally posted by Rascal:
I know where you are coming from, but like I said I don't want Seattle to become even more of a power house than they already are with their run game. If they get Gordon, their RB corps will be leaps and bounds ahead of us.

I have been telling dudes for a while on here now that Melvin Gordon if he were to fall to our pick is a must pick. Reason being is we need explosive players to crack SEA defense. I don't see any other WR this explosive aside from DGB and even then a WR touches the ball if you can get it to him a maximum of 8 times per contest whereas your RB gets nearly 20 touches. This means a higher usage rate and more opportunity to make impact plays. Ask SEA! Make no mistake they are the team to beat right now in our division and you see the pairing they have in place with Wilson and Lynch as a threat to get the ball on every play. Now imagine if we can pair Gordon with Kap in the same backfield and the defense then has to worry about either athlete breaking off a 90 yd TD run! I guarantee you that if we draft this kid we get more explosive plays and easy scores and KC beat SEA chiefly because of Jamaal Charles. If you put Gordon with Kap they will make each other better by leaps and bounds. Let's do it! I guess whatever game came on TV tonight that I missed has raised a few eyebrows around here