Melvin Gordon - RB - Wisconsin

Originally posted by shmuck:

Originally posted by All22:
I wholeheartedly agree RB>WR but Gordon may not be better than Gurley or Coleman... or even Abdullah or Johnson. Gordon has some huge red flags (weak pass pro, average inside runner despite being 215lbs, ball security, vision, ran behind an awesome Oline etc).

In this draft, I don't think anyone would be surprised if one of the 2nd-3rd round backs (like Duke Johnson or Abdullah or Coleman) actually turned out to be the best. Therefore we need to go with a reciever or DL in the first.

Man I think your watching the wrong guy. His vision is some of the best a RB has had in the past ten years. His inside running is great because of his ability to find the holes with his vision. he didnt give up any huge plays this season with his pass protection. He could work on his ball security though.

We just have to agree to disagree. I don't think.his vision is anywhere near as good as Duke Johnson's for instance.

I'm all for it! It would depend on the coach we get.
- Shanahan and Gordon, Hyde, and hopefully Gore... That combo that would be insane.

This Melvin Gordon talk is a little ridiculous. The niners aren't lacking for talent at the RB position. Hyde's got a lot of potential and Hunter will hopefully be back and in form. I'm all for bringing Gore back and drafting a RB later in the draft. Spending a high pick for the third time in 4 years on a RB is wasteful. Better off picking up a defensive end early or a WR to replace Crabtree.

Originally posted by walker807:
This Melvin Gordon talk is a little ridiculous. The niners aren't lacking for talent at the RB position. Hyde's got a lot of potential and Hunter will hopefully be back and in form. I'm all for bringing Gore back and drafting a RB later in the draft. Spending a high pick for the third time in 4 years on a RB is wasteful. Better off picking up a defensive end early or a WR to replace Crabtree.

You have got to be kidding me !!

Which division are we in ? NFC West.

Who is in this division ? Seattle Seahawks.

What RBs does Seattle have ? Beast Mode, Turbin, Michael and soon to be Gordon or Gurley. (unless we do something about it)

You think by picking a RB late will be enough to hang with Seattle ? NO.

Who is ridiculous now ?

Let me tell you something. The day Kap is still under center, he is not going to carry the team with his passing game. He will need a dominating run game in order for this offense to thrive.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by walker807:
This Melvin Gordon talk is a little ridiculous. The niners aren't lacking for talent at the RB position. Hyde's got a lot of potential and Hunter will hopefully be back and in form. I'm all for bringing Gore back and drafting a RB later in the draft. Spending a high pick for the third time in 4 years on a RB is wasteful. Better off picking up a defensive end early or a WR to replace Crabtree.

You have got to be kidding me !!

Which division are we in ? NFC West.

Who is in this division ? Seattle Seahawks.

What RBs does Seattle have ? Beast Mode, Turbin, Michael and soon to be Gordon or Gurley. (unless we do something about it)

You think by picking a RB late will be enough to hang with Seattle ? NO.

Who is ridiculous now ?

Let me tell you something. The day Kap is still under center, he is not going to carry the team with his passing game. He will need a dominating run game in order for this offense to thrive.

Let Seattle waste an early pick on Gordon or Gurley. It's not a position of need for them and only 1 running back can carry the ball at a time. If anybody not named Lynch is getting carries then im OK with that. You have a bellcow back that gets about 2/3 carries and is able to develop a rhythm while you roll in a change of pace back. There is NO room for multiple bellcow running backs. If its not Gore for us next year then it should be Hyde. Not to metion, how many RB's drafted early are losing there jobs to UDFA's and late round picks?

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by walker807:
This Melvin Gordon talk is a little ridiculous. The niners aren't lacking for talent at the RB position. Hyde's got a lot of potential and Hunter will hopefully be back and in form. I'm all for bringing Gore back and drafting a RB later in the draft. Spending a high pick for the third time in 4 years on a RB is wasteful. Better off picking up a defensive end early or a WR to replace Crabtree.

You have got to be kidding me !!

Which division are we in ? NFC West.

Who is in this division ? Seattle Seahawks.

What RBs does Seattle have ? Beast Mode, Turbin, Michael and soon to be Gordon or Gurley. (unless we do something about it)

You think by picking a RB late will be enough to hang with Seattle ? NO.

Who is ridiculous now ?

Let me tell you something. The day Kap is still under center, he is not going to carry the team with his passing game. He will need a dominating run game in order for this offense to thrive.

Let Seattle waste an early pick on Gordon or Gurley. It's not a position of need for them and only 1 running back can carry the ball at a time. If anybody not named Lynch is getting carries then im OK with that. You have a bellcow back that gets about 2/3 carries and is able to develop a rhythm while you roll in a change of pace back. There is NO room for multiple bellcow running backs. If its not Gore for us next year then it should be Hyde. Not to metion, how many RB's drafted early are losing there jobs to UDFA's and late round picks?

So if you knew Bell, Murray, AP, Lacy, or Lynch were in the next draft, you'd pass on them to go with Hyde and Hunter?

1. It's very likely one or more of these guys being a true dominant, game-changing back.
2. Gore has probably played his last game as a 49er. If not, his time is still limited.
3. The draft is very week at nearly every other position.

It'll be a tragedy if this ends up being the best RB draft of our generation and we don't get one.

Edit: I'm of the Bellicheck mindset: if you have multiple good guys at one position you can figure out a way to use it to your advantage. See: Ridley and Woodhead or Gronk and Hernandez, or Charles and Davis and McCluster/DeAnthony Thomas.

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by walker807:
This Melvin Gordon talk is a little ridiculous. The niners aren't lacking for talent at the RB position. Hyde's got a lot of potential and Hunter will hopefully be back and in form. I'm all for bringing Gore back and drafting a RB later in the draft. Spending a high pick for the third time in 4 years on a RB is wasteful. Better off picking up a defensive end early or a WR to replace Crabtree.

You have got to be kidding me !!

Which division are we in ? NFC West.

Who is in this division ? Seattle Seahawks.

What RBs does Seattle have ? Beast Mode, Turbin, Michael and soon to be Gordon or Gurley. (unless we do something about it)

You think by picking a RB late will be enough to hang with Seattle ? NO.

Who is ridiculous now ?

Let me tell you something. The day Kap is still under center, he is not going to carry the team with his passing game. He will need a dominating run game in order for this offense to thrive.

Let Seattle waste an early pick on Gordon or Gurley. It's not a position of need for them and only 1 running back can carry the ball at a time. If anybody not named Lynch is getting carries then im OK with that. You have a bellcow back that gets about 2/3 carries and is able to develop a rhythm while you roll in a change of pace back. There is NO room for multiple bellcow running backs. If its not Gore for us next year then it should be Hyde. Not to metion, how many RB's drafted early are losing there jobs to UDFA's and late round picks?

I don't think Lynch will be in Seattle next year and I highly doubt any rookie will be as good next year as Lynch has been or would be.

I'm in favor of a bellcow at RB. The committee approach hasn't really done much of anything since the Giants in 2008 with Jacobs, Ware, and Bradshaw.

Originally posted by walker807:
Let Seattle waste an early pick on Gordon or Gurley. It's not a position of need for them and only 1 running back can carry the ball at a time. If anybody not named Lynch is getting carries then im OK with that. You have a bellcow back that gets about 2/3 carries and is able to develop a rhythm while you roll in a change of pace back. There is NO room for multiple bellcow running backs. If its not Gore for us next year then it should be Hyde. Not to metion, how many RB's drafted early are losing there jobs to UDFA's and late round picks?

RB is not a position of need for Seattle ?! Beast Mode is about done there, I would be really surprised if they didn't draft a top RB in May. Their RB corps is already strong as it is with 2 legit power backs in Turbin and Michael although may be not at the level of a Melvin Gordon.Who do we have apart from Carlos Hyde ? Noone !! Kendall Hunter is nothing to brag about, not fast nor big. Alfonso Smith is a waste of space and will be cut and so will the new guy we signed. That leaves Gaskins in the PS who must be pretty crap if they had to bring in 2 free agent backs when Frank and Carlos went down. What happens when Carlos goes down next season ? We have sweet FA. Our RB corps is mediocre at beat for a team that supposedly relies so heavily on the run game. Get Melvin Gordon, re-establish our run game, that will give Kap a chance to fight for his job. If not, don't be too surprised if Kap continues to tank and gets traded after next season.

Originally posted by Rascal:

RB is not a position of need for Seattle ?! Beast Mode is about done there, I would be really surprised if they didn't draft a top RB in May. Their RB corps is already strong as it is with 2 legit power backs in Turbin and Michael although may be not at the level of a Melvin Gordon.Who do we have apart from Carlos Hyde ? Noone !! Kendall Hunter is nothing to brag about, not fast nor big. Alfonso Smith is a waste of space and will be cut and so will the new guy we signed. That leaves Gaskins in the PS who must be pretty crap if they had to bring in 2 free agent backs when Frank and Carlos went down. What happens when Carlos goes down next season ? We have sweet FA. Our RB corps is mediocre at beat for a team that supposedly relies so heavily on the run game. Get Melvin Gordon, re-establish our run game, that will give Kap a chance to fight for his job. If not, don't be too surprised if Kap continues to tank and gets traded after next season.

Just look at the stress on a defense with Gordon back there with Kap! Look at what SEA is doing with Wilson and Lynch. They are going to win another Super Bowl running read option and moving Wilson out of the pocket to find Lynch Willson one of those average WRs or whomever. You can't stop their option plays not their scramble game. Big plays are bound to happen yet they've been low risk. Dimple yet effective! We can do the same thing wiyh this pick and be even more devastating with Kap and Gordon back there. The NFL game has changed folk which is why I want SEA to win again just to prove it. You gotta have explosive players vs this team and there are NO WRs in this draft this explosive except DGB. Hey this back if we can! Even with Frank we will figure out a way to use Melvin aplenty!

dude is a fkn beast. Watch the Hawks jump all over him and kill us for the next 10 years.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Just look at the stress on a defense with Gordon back there with Kap! Look at what SEA is doing with Wilson and Lynch. They are going to win another Super Bowl running read option and moving Wilson out of the pocket to find Lynch Willson one of those average WRs or whomever. You can't stop their option plays not their scramble game. Big plays are bound to happen yet they've been low risk. Dimple yet effective! We can do the same thing wiyh this pick and be even more devastating with Kap and Gordon back there. The NFL game has changed folk which is why I want SEA to win again just to prove it. You gotta have explosive players vs this team and there are NO WRs in this draft this explosive except DGB. Hey this back if we can! Even with Frank we will figure out a way to use Melvin aplenty!

That is the only way out for us if we are to revive this offense. As long as Kap is still under center, we will need a kick-as* run game. Kap is not going to throw the ball 38 times a game anymore like what he did this year with Harbaugh's BS pass-heavy new offensive philosophy, he will have to make plays with his legs with the read option and throw off the play action. That's where Gordon comes in, he and Hyde will pound the crap out f the opposing D-line until they cry and Kap can throw deep with the play action. Our run game will have to be so devastating that no 8-man box will be able to stuff us.

Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Romo, Stafford, and Drew Brees need kickass run games too. So did Young, Montana, Elway, Jim Kelly, Aikman, and Warner.

Originally posted by All22:
Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Romo, Stafford, and Drew Brees need kickass run games too. So did Young, Montana, Elway, Jim Kelly, Aikman, and Warner.

You are missing the point here. Unlike some of these other QBs you have mentioned, Kap will not be able to bail you out with his passing game. Aaron Rodgers never used to have a run game for example.

Originally posted by Rascal:

You are missing the point here. Unlike some of these other QBs you have mentioned, Kap will not be able to bail you out with his passing game. Aaron Rodgers never used to have a run game for example.

That's why he got crushed by SFO

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
That's why he got crushed by SFO

But, don't forget he also won the Super Bowl by just throwing the ball.