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Feb 22, 2015 at 5:37 AM

Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by Butter:
I really like Dorsett. I pick him in al,oat every mock draft I've done. I usually grab him in the 3rd, but I doubt he lasts that long. Where does he project to get drafted at this point.

I am in the minority, but I like him enough to put him in the 1st. Yeah, I'm kinda crazy like that.

Feb 22, 2015 at 6:06 AM

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genus49
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He reminds me of TY Hilton. Except he won't have Andrew Luck throwing to him very likely. Which makes Hilton look good in a lot of ways too.

Yeah I doubt Kap can get him the ball deep with that sissy arm of his.

Feb 22, 2015 at 10:51 AM

#93

JustinNiner
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He reminds me of TY Hilton. Except he won't have Andrew Luck throwing to him very likely. Which makes Hilton look good in a lot of ways too.

yea im sure his numbers wouldnt be as good but he still gets open a lot and constantly beats DBs downfield. Luck is pretty good throwing that deep ball.

Feb 22, 2015 at 7:33 PM

#94

SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He reminds me of TY Hilton. Except he won't have Andrew Luck throwing to him very likely. Which makes Hilton look good in a lot of ways too.

Yeah I doubt Kap can get him the ball deep with that sissy arm of his.

It's not the sissy arm. It's the wild inaccurate throws. Luck is 10 times more accurate than Krap.

Feb 23, 2015 at 7:41 AM

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NYniner85
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He reminds me of TY Hilton. Except he won't have Andrew Luck throwing to him very likely. Which makes Hilton look good in a lot of ways too.

Yeah I doubt Kap can get him the ball deep with that sissy arm of his.

It's not the sissy arm. It's the wild inaccurate throws. Luck is 10 times more accurate than Krap.

Actually Kap was pretty accurate throwing the deep ball his 1st 2 years in the league.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/charts-who-are-the-best-deep-passers-in-the-nfl-1469917039

PPF had he ranked 2nd in the league in accuracy at 50.7%

Having the 30th ranked pass blocking line this past year and really no deep threats hurt him big time.

Feb 23, 2015 at 7:51 AM

#96

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He reminds me of TY Hilton. Except he won't have Andrew Luck throwing to him very likely. Which makes Hilton look good in a lot of ways too.

Yeah I doubt Kap can get him the ball deep with that sissy arm of his.

It's not the sissy arm. It's the wild inaccurate throws. Luck is 10 times more accurate than Krap.

Your analogy is terrible Hilton runs a lot of fly routes which are easy throws and with his speed they been effective we don't have that yet but baalke has made it known we need speed

Feb 23, 2015 at 7:59 AM

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I'd rather have Devin Smith in the 2nd over this kid

Feb 23, 2015 at 8:00 AM

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WRATHman44
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'd rather have Devin Smith in the 2nd over this kid

If (big IF) we can get Smith in the 2nd, I agree.

Feb 23, 2015 at 8:13 AM

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Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'd rather have Devin Smith in the 2nd over this kid

If (big IF) we can get Smith in the 2nd, I agree.

I think his poor 40 hurt his stock big time...big you can see he has game speed and he can get up and get the ball (39 inch vert). I all for moving up in 2nd to make sure they get this kid.

Feb 23, 2015 at 8:23 AM

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genus49
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:
If (big IF) we can get Smith in the 2nd, I agree.

Not sure it's that big of an IF. The guy is very one dimensional. It's a dimension we need on this team but there are a lot of talented receivers in this class. I'd say odds are good he'll be there in the 2nd round for us.

Having said that I'd rather have Dorsett.

Feb 23, 2015 at 11:25 AM

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JustinNiner
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He reminds me of TY Hilton. Except he won't have Andrew Luck throwing to him very likely. Which makes Hilton look good in a lot of ways too.

Yeah I doubt Kap can get him the ball deep with that sissy arm of his.

It's not the sissy arm. It's the wild inaccurate throws. Luck is 10 times more accurate than Krap.

Actually Kap was pretty accurate throwing the deep ball his 1st 2 years in the league.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/charts-who-are-the-best-deep-passers-in-the-nfl-1469917039

PPF had he ranked 2nd in the league in accuracy at 50.7%

Having the 30th ranked pass blocking line this past year and really no deep threats hurt him big time.

NYniner with the facts! i hope this is right

Feb 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM

#102

JustinNiner
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'd rather have Devin Smith in the 2nd over this kid

idk about devin smith. another straightline speed guy from ohio state :/ his tape doesn't wow me like other prospects. could be wrong though but he reminds me of teddy

Feb 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM

#103

WRATHman44
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Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'd rather have Devin Smith in the 2nd over this kid

idk about devin smith. another straightline speed guy from ohio state :/ his tape doesn't wow me like other prospects. could be wrong though but he reminds me of teddy

Not at all, imo. Ginn was always terrible at adjusting to the ball in the air. Smith seems to be very good at that.

Feb 23, 2015 at 11:33 AM

#104

NYniner85
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Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He reminds me of TY Hilton. Except he won't have Andrew Luck throwing to him very likely. Which makes Hilton look good in a lot of ways too.

Yeah I doubt Kap can get him the ball deep with that sissy arm of his.

It's not the sissy arm. It's the wild inaccurate throws. Luck is 10 times more accurate than Krap.

Actually Kap was pretty accurate throwing the deep ball his 1st 2 years in the league.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/charts-who-are-the-best-deep-passers-in-the-nfl-1469917039

PPF had he ranked 2nd in the league in accuracy at 50.7%

Having the 30th ranked pass blocking line this past year and really no deep threats hurt him big time.

NYniner with the facts! i hope this is right

Pro Football Focus is pretty on point...they factored in drops as well.

Kap can throw the long ball, but we just didn't have anyone that could get down field before the pocket collapsed. Getting a healthy O-line will be huge!

Feb 23, 2015 at 11:41 AM

#105

NYniner85
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Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'd rather have Devin Smith in the 2nd over this kid

idk about devin smith. another straightline speed guy from ohio state :/ his tape doesn't wow me like other prospects. could be wrong though but he reminds me of teddy

Not even close to Ginn. Smith is bigger and stronger, He is great at making adjustments and tracking the ball, can block, and doesn't avoid contact.

Ginn was never good at any of these things in college....whens the last time you saw Ginn make a adjustment on a long ball? How about Ginn going up to get a ball at the highest point? He hates any contact and never tried to get those extra yards. Ginn is a good punt/kick return in college and nothing more.