CJ Spiller

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by tap11:
This is getting rather insane. A few folks on the webzone get a shiver up their leg at the idea of drafting a fast running back who struggles between the tackles. The fervor then spreads throughout the zone. Matt Barrows (familliar with the zone) picks up on the fervor and prints it. ESPN sees what Barrows has printed and suggests the 49ers are interested in a running back (despite the presence of Gore and Coffee), who can't run between the tackles very well.

PS - Does Jimmy Raye have a sweep, or toss play in his playbook?

Except he CAN run between the tackles, has better vision and speed and can break tackles unlike Bush.

In a nine minute highlight clip only two runs between the tackles is evidence to the contrary. I admit I have only seen him play four or five times, but he definitely did not resemble an nfl feature back in those games. Why would you spend a first rounder for a return man?

Originally posted by tap11:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by tap11:
This is getting rather insane. A few folks on the webzone get a shiver up their leg at the idea of drafting a fast running back who struggles between the tackles. The fervor then spreads throughout the zone. Matt Barrows (familliar with the zone) picks up on the fervor and prints it. ESPN sees what Barrows has printed and suggests the 49ers are interested in a running back (despite the presence of Gore and Coffee), who can't run between the tackles very well.

PS - Does Jimmy Raye have a sweep, or toss play in his playbook?

Except he CAN run between the tackles, has better vision and speed and can break tackles unlike Bush.

In a nine minute highlight clip only two runs between the tackles is evidence to the contrary. I admit I have only seen him play four or five times, but he definitely did not resemble an nfl feature back in those games. Why would you spend a first rounder for a return man?

Because he does far more than return kicks and punts.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by 49ers18:

Originally posted by excelsior:
His highlight video is interesting. He is fast, accelerates well, and seems to break away from tackles. There is just one thing: I saw a couple of defenders close in on him as he sprinted downfield. I say, find out who those fast suckers are and draft THEM!

im pretty sure those games were from when he was playing with his foot injury....Not positive about that...but im pretty sure it was....when he is 100% nobody can catch him....except maybe Jahvid Best

Not jahvid no
Jacoby Ford yes

you don't think so? I think Best might be a bit faster...just my personal opinion...but if Spiller is faster it makes me want him just that much more....i guess we will find out at the combine

New video tribute to Spiller. Check the stats at the end and then recognize that he shared the ball for three seasons with a 1000 yard rusher in James Davis:



Got to take this dude if he's available.

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
New video tribute to Spiller. Check the stats at the end and then recognize that he shared the ball for three seasons with a 1000 yard rusher in James Davis:


Got to take this dude if he's available.

WOW!!!

Spiller at #13, and Graham at #16 would be an awesome day one of the draft!! We need playmakers!!

Originally posted by tap11:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by tap11:
This is getting rather insane. A few folks on the webzone get a shiver up their leg at the idea of drafting a fast running back who struggles between the tackles. The fervor then spreads throughout the zone. Matt Barrows (familliar with the zone) picks up on the fervor and prints it. ESPN sees what Barrows has printed and suggests the 49ers are interested in a running back (despite the presence of Gore and Coffee), who can't run between the tackles very well.

PS - Does Jimmy Raye have a sweep, or toss play in his playbook?

Except he CAN run between the tackles, has better vision and speed and can break tackles unlike Bush.

In a nine minute highlight clip only two runs between the tackles is evidence to the contrary. I admit I have only seen him play four or five times, but he definitely did not resemble an nfl feature back in those games. Why would you spend a first rounder for a return man?

Because he runs like Barry Sims....and Barry Sanders!

You'all seem to want three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust....we want lightning! Frank Gore has trouble, BIG trouble, running up the middle with our O-line. Spiller won't have that much trouble. Oh, he'll be tackled for plenty of one and two yard gains...and then take it the distance. He has an extraordinary talent for making people miss without the BS "shake and bake" Kevin Barlow moves. He creates empty space with his vision and cutbacks and then departs...for the end zone. This guy will change games, in our favor. What have you got against Hester, DeSean Jackson, and Chris Johnson?

Their productivity?

"The wise man gathers up another CJ Spiller..."

Speed kills. Go Niners.

I'm all for fixing the O-line, but we need speed. We need that home run threat! Everytime he touches the ball, he can go the distance!

Originally posted by PTulini:
I'm all for fixing the O-line, but we need speed. We need that home run threat! Everytime he touches the ball, he can go the distance!

Right there with you!

Originally posted by endz0ne:

Originally posted by tap11:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by tap11:
This is getting rather insane. A few folks on the webzone get a shiver up their leg at the idea of drafting a fast running back who struggles between the tackles. The fervor then spreads throughout the zone. Matt Barrows (familliar with the zone) picks up on the fervor and prints it. ESPN sees what Barrows has printed and suggests the 49ers are interested in a running back (despite the presence of Gore and Coffee), who can't run between the tackles very well.

PS - Does Jimmy Raye have a sweep, or toss play in his playbook?

Except he CAN run between the tackles, has better vision and speed and can break tackles unlike Bush.

In a nine minute highlight clip only two runs between the tackles is evidence to the contrary. I admit I have only seen him play four or five times, but he definitely did not resemble an nfl feature back in those games. Why would you spend a first rounder for a return man?

Because he runs like Barry Sims....and Barry Sanders!

You'all seem to want three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust....we want lightning! Frank Gore has trouble, BIG trouble, running up the middle with our O-line. Spiller won't have that much trouble. Oh, he'll be tackled for plenty of one and two yard gains...and then take it the distance. He has an extraordinary talent for making people miss without the BS "shake and bake" Kevin Barlow moves. He creates empty space with his vision and cutbacks and then departs...for the end zone. This guy will change games, in our favor. What have you got against Hester, DeSean Jackson, and Chris Johnson?

Their productivity?

"The wise man gathers up another CJ Spiller..."

Speed kills. Go Niners.

"frank has big trouble moving up the middle with our O line"? How many yards did Frank get last season? Was that really big trouble?

Originally posted by endz0ne:

Originally posted by tap11:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by tap11:
This is getting rather insane. A few folks on the webzone get a shiver up their leg at the idea of drafting a fast running back who struggles between the tackles. The fervor then spreads throughout the zone. Matt Barrows (familliar with the zone) picks up on the fervor and prints it. ESPN sees what Barrows has printed and suggests the 49ers are interested in a running back (despite the presence of Gore and Coffee), who can't run between the tackles very well.

PS - Does Jimmy Raye have a sweep, or toss play in his playbook?

Except he CAN run between the tackles, has better vision and speed and can break tackles unlike Bush.

In a nine minute highlight clip only two runs between the tackles is evidence to the contrary. I admit I have only seen him play four or five times, but he definitely did not resemble an nfl feature back in those games. Why would you spend a first rounder for a return man?

Because he runs like Barry Sims....and Barry Sanders!

You'all seem to want three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust....we want lightning! Frank Gore has trouble, BIG trouble, running up the middle with our O-line. Spiller won't have that much trouble. Oh, he'll be tackled for plenty of one and two yard gains...and then take it the distance. He has an extraordinary talent for making people miss without the BS "shake and bake" Kevin Barlow moves. He creates empty space with his vision and cutbacks and then departs...for the end zone. This guy will change games, in our favor. What have you got against Hester, DeSean Jackson, and Chris Johnson?

Their productivity?

"The wise man gathers up another CJ Spiller..."

Speed kills. Go Niners.

Via MM :

By the way, here's how the 49ers' run plays were distributed:

 

Left end: 27 runs (4.81-yard average)

Left tackle: 23 runs (2.38 average)

Left guard: 32 runs (2.0 average)

Middle: 171 runs (4.84 average)

Right guard: 38 runs (5.45 average)

Right tackle: 39 runs (2.95 average)

Right end: 27 runs (6.07 average)

Originally posted by endz0ne:

Originally posted by tap11:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by tap11:
This is getting rather insane. A few folks on the webzone get a shiver up their leg at the idea of drafting a fast running back who struggles between the tackles. The fervor then spreads throughout the zone. Matt Barrows (familliar with the zone) picks up on the fervor and prints it. ESPN sees what Barrows has printed and suggests the 49ers are interested in a running back (despite the presence of Gore and Coffee), who can't run between the tackles very well.

PS - Does Jimmy Raye have a sweep, or toss play in his playbook?

Except he CAN run between the tackles, has better vision and speed and can break tackles unlike Bush.

In a nine minute highlight clip only two runs between the tackles is evidence to the contrary. I admit I have only seen him play four or five times, but he definitely did not resemble an nfl feature back in those games. Why would you spend a first rounder for a return man?

Because he runs like Barry Sims....and Barry Sanders!

You'all seem to want three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust....we want lightning! Frank Gore has trouble, BIG trouble, running up the middle with our O-line. Spiller won't have that much trouble. Oh, he'll be tackled for plenty of one and two yard gains...and then take it the distance. He has an extraordinary talent for making people miss without the BS "shake and bake" Kevin Barlow moves. He creates empty space with his vision and cutbacks and then departs...for the end zone. This guy will change games, in our favor. What have you got against Hester, DeSean Jackson, and Chris Johnson?

Their productivity?

"The wise man gathers up another CJ Spiller..."

Speed kills. Go Niners.

Hopefully you meant Billy Sims, Barry Sims runs something like a 5.10 and has no wiggle and wouldn't be very good as a return man..

Originally posted by DaveWilcox:

Originally posted by endz0ne:

Originally posted by tap11:

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by tap11:
This is getting rather insane. A few folks on the webzone get a shiver up their leg at the idea of drafting a fast running back who struggles between the tackles. The fervor then spreads throughout the zone. Matt Barrows (familliar with the zone) picks up on the fervor and prints it. ESPN sees what Barrows has printed and suggests the 49ers are interested in a running back (despite the presence of Gore and Coffee), who can't run between the tackles very well.

PS - Does Jimmy Raye have a sweep, or toss play in his playbook?

Except he CAN run between the tackles, has better vision and speed and can break tackles unlike Bush.

In a nine minute highlight clip only two runs between the tackles is evidence to the contrary. I admit I have only seen him play four or five times, but he definitely did not resemble an nfl feature back in those games. Why would you spend a first rounder for a return man?

Because he runs like Barry Sims....and Barry Sanders!

You'all seem to want three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust....we want lightning! Frank Gore has trouble, BIG trouble, running up the middle with our O-line. Spiller won't have that much trouble. Oh, he'll be tackled for plenty of one and two yard gains...and then take it the distance. He has an extraordinary talent for making people miss without the BS "shake and bake" Kevin Barlow moves. He creates empty space with his vision and cutbacks and then departs...for the end zone. This guy will change games, in our favor. What have you got against Hester, DeSean Jackson, and Chris Johnson?

Their productivity?

"The wise man gathers up another CJ Spiller..."

Speed kills. Go Niners.

Hopefully you meant Billy Sims, Barry Sims runs something like a 5.10 and has no wiggle and wouldn't be very good as a return man..

Nice!! My first post in this thread was about how much Spiller reminded me of Billy Sims, but to tell the truth, I was actually thinking of Sanders. Of course, when I did my research and saw Sims run again, I said to myself, "Yeah, that guy!" It was only later that I realized who I thought of first (Sanders), and when I looked at his vids I said to myself (again), "Yeah, that guy!"

So, in a nutshell, I think Spiller is the next coming of Billy-Barry Sims-Sanders and I'll take any combination of them! Except the one you mentioned...(though even he might be a better PR than Arnez...)

Go Niners!

To English and Kris:

So, we shouldn't draft O-line?

What was our success on third down?

Why did we go all spread-and-let-Alex-throw-the-cover-off-the-ball?

4.84 yds/carry...take out the Seattle game, and what does that go down to?

Frank is Frank, and when our line did manage to open something up, he took advantage more times than not. But did you not see those far, far too many two-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust runs? (OK, no more hyphens, promise)

If that 4.84 had been real, we simply would have given it to Gore every play and had him follow Baas/Heitmann/Rachal down the field for a score every series.

Which was Iron Mike's original plan.

Didn't work.

Our line wasn't good enough.

We were 8 and 8. (See? No hyphen!)

Had trouble running.

Let's draft to improve our offensive line and let Gore and Spiller do their thing!

Except he won't be there when we choose.

DRAT!

Originally posted by endz0ne:
To English and Kris:

So, we shouldn't draft O-line?

What was our success on third down?

Why did we go all spread-and-let-Alex-throw-the-cover-off-the-ball?

4.84 yds/carry...take out the Seattle game, and what does that go down to?

Frank is Frank, and when our line did manage to open something up, he took advantage more times than not. But did you not see those far, far too many two-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust runs? (OK, no more hyphens, promise)

If that 4.84 had been real, we simply would have given it to Gore every play and had him follow Baas/Heitmann/Rachal down the field for a score every series.

Which was Iron Mike's original plan.

Didn't work.

Our line wasn't good enough.

We were 8 and 8. (See? No hyphen!)

Had trouble running.

Let's draft to improve our offensive line and let Gore and Spiller do their thing!

Except he won't be there when we choose.

DRAT!

With a stronger OLine, Gore would be getting 5 to 6 yards per pop. He displayed breakaway speed this year and he looked very sharp. Dude missed 3 games and was still a top back.