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Shaquil Barrett

Dec 30, 2018 at 8:31 PM
He was underrated on here.. then overrated and now I think he's underrated again. I think he's pretty damn talented and would come a lot cheaper and younger than Graham.
Dec 30, 2018 at 8:32 PM
I would gladly have him, but at this point, I want more from the FA edge acquisition. I think they can go into next season with an edge group made up of rookie edge+free agent+Street+Blair. That free agent, however, needs to be a considerable upgrade from Marsh and Watson.
[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 30, 2018 at 8:33 PM ]
Dec 30, 2018 at 8:34 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
At this point, I want more from the FA edge acquisition than Barrett. I think they can go into next season with an edge group made up of rookie edge+free agent+Street+Blair. That free agent, however, needs to be a considerable upgrade from Marsh and Watson.

Barrett isn't an upgrade? I think he's surely an upgrade. I agree we shouldn't go cheap but Barrett could be our double down FA that adds Sam backer value.
Dec 30, 2018 at 8:35 PM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Barrett isn't an upgrade? I think he's surely an upgrade. I agree we shouldn't go cheap but Barrett could be our double down FA that adds Sam backer value.

That's why I made sure to put considerable upgrade in there. Sure, he's an upgrade(who isn't over Marsh and Watson), but I don't think he's enough of an upgrade. I need more.
[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 30, 2018 at 8:35 PM ]
Dec 30, 2018 at 8:39 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Barrett isn't an upgrade? I think he's surely an upgrade. I agree we shouldn't go cheap but Barrett could be our double down FA that adds Sam backer value.

That's why I made sure to put considerable upgrade in there. Sure, he's an upgrade(who isn't over Marsh and Watson), but I don't think he's enough of an upgrade. I need more.

Who is the considerable upgrade though? Lawrence, Clowney, Ansah, Graham? Only the last two will make it to FA most likely. I would be happy with one but gonna cost us and I think we can get Barrett as well.
Dec 30, 2018 at 8:43 PM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Who is the considerable upgrade though? Lawrence, Clowney, Ansah, Graham? Only the last two will make it to FA most likely. I would be happy with one but gonna cost us and I think we can get Barrett as well.

I'll let you know in March when franchise tag deadline passes and the new year starts.
Dec 30, 2018 at 8:46 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Who is the considerable upgrade though? Lawrence, Clowney, Ansah, Graham? Only the last two will make it to FA most likely. I would be happy with one but gonna cost us and I think we can get Barrett as well.

I'll let you know in March when franchise tag deadline passes and the new year starts.

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Dec 31, 2018 at 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
He was underrated on here.. then overrated and now I think he's underrated again. I think he's pretty damn talented and would come a lot cheaper and younger than Graham.


My FA edge/SAM choice!!
Dec 31, 2018 at 10:46 AM
I'd get this guy in FA to man our SAM position with Nchoeza or Marsh as backups. Id then DRAFT a guy like Clelin Ferrel, Bosa, or DT like Williams. we would have a few Rush type guys instead of 1 and some "maybes"..
Dec 31, 2018 at 2:20 PM
Originally posted by toppdogg32:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
He was underrated on here.. then overrated and now I think he's underrated again. I think he's pretty damn talented and would come a lot cheaper and younger than Graham.


My FA edge/SAM choice!!

Agreed
Dec 31, 2018 at 4:41 PM
Originally posted by toppdogg32:
I'd get this guy in FA to man our SAM position with Nchoeza or Marsh as backups. Id then DRAFT a guy like Clelin Ferrel, Bosa, or DT like Williams. we would have a few Rush type guys instead of 1 and some "maybes"..

Barrett would be ideal. I thought Marsh did awful in coverage though? I stated elsewhere I'm okay with loading up on other positions in free agency and using the draft to acquire pass rushers. Signing Barrett would go a long way towards giving us that flexibility.
Dec 31, 2018 at 4:45 PM
Marsh isn't a SAM. He didn't take a snap at SAM this season and rightfully so. Dude sucks in coverage. It was Nzeocha and Malcolm Smith the entire year.

I think they should look for someone with the versatility to play all three LB spots. The SAM plays 15% of total snaps. 15%!! It's almost a waste of a roster spot to have a designated SAM.
[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 31, 2018 at 4:47 PM ]
Dec 31, 2018 at 5:30 PM
Originally posted by Heroism:
Marsh isn't a SAM. He didn't take a snap at SAM this season and rightfully so. Dude sucks in coverage. It was Nzeocha and Malcolm Smith the entire year.

I think they should look for someone with the versatility to play all three LB spots. The SAM plays 15% of total snaps. 15%!! It's almost a waste of a roster spot to have a designated SAM.

So our sam must be able to rush in nickel packages and play LB. Sounds like Barrett to me. ;)
Jan 2, 2019 at 1:53 PM
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by toppdogg32:
I'd get this guy in FA to man our SAM position with Nchoeza or Marsh as backups. Id then DRAFT a guy like Clelin Ferrel, Bosa, or DT like Williams. we would have a few Rush type guys instead of 1 and some "maybes"..

Barrett would be ideal. I thought Marsh did awful in coverage though? I stated elsewhere I'm okay with loading up on other positions in free agency and using the draft to acquire pass rushers. Signing Barrett would go a long way towards giving us that flexibility.


Yeah, Marsh IS terrible in coverage, but he could give a value as a backup and ST's and as an extra pass rusher. He's a backup for roster spot only. Nzcheoza actually a better backup and pro bowl level ST player, so either/or. But think Barrett wud be a great under wire acquisition..
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