Comparing 49ers draft classes to other NFL draft classes 2005-2008

looking back now the 2007 draft was pretty awesome.

What made you pick the teams you did? Ravens and Eagles are usually picking much later than the Niners thus there talent shouldn't be on par with 1st round picks. Biggest thing i notice that 05 they had 11 picks and the only sure fire winner out of the bunch is Gore. 06 got the team some quality starting talent, and talent at depth. It would have been a A+ draft if Brandon Marshall was selected instead of that bum Brandon Williams. Those type of bonehead draft moves can't happen again. 07 was by far his best draft really no complaints. Getting value from Goldson and Brown was a major bonus to that class. 08 so far looks like a complete waste except for Morgan. You just can't miss on a complete draft class. All in all he's average to below average. Looking at all these teams let's you know that you can find good to great talent in later rounds. Many of the best players out of all these teams combined are later than 2nd round picks.

awesome post

Nobody knows the draft better than all of us armchair GMs. I mean only an idiot would pass on DeSean Jackson, even though Philly passed on him twice I believe. Only a complete nimrod would pass on Brandon Marshall 4 times. Every armchair GM knew Brandon Marshall was going to be a stud.

Every team has bad drafts. 2008 doesn't look good but its still early too. Plus we picked towards the end of round one too.

Where's 2009?

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by valrod33:
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Originally posted by lamontb:
What made you pick the teams you did? Ravens and Eagles are usually picking much later than the Niners thus there talent shouldn't be on par with 1st round picks. Biggest thing i notice that 05 they had 11 picks and the only sure fire winner out of the bunch is Gore. 06 got the team some quality starting talent, and talent at depth. It would have been a A+ draft if Brandon Marshall was selected instead of that bum Brandon Williams. Those type of bonehead draft moves can't happen again. 07 was by far his best draft really no complaints. Getting value from Goldson and Brown was a major bonus to that class. 08 so far looks like a complete waste except for Morgan. You just can't miss on a complete draft class. All in all he's average to below average. Looking at all these teams let's you know that you can find good to great talent in later rounds. Many of the best players out of all these teams combined are later than 2nd round picks.

Respected GM's is the reason for picking these teams. While these teams have all made the playoffs during these years they all also had seasons where they drafted inside the top 15.

Re: Marshall, after Williams was selected 6 WR's went before Marshall (Maurice Stovall, Willie Reid, Brad Smith, Cory Rodgers, Jason Avant and Demetrius Williams). So a lot of teams made that same bonehead move in hindsight, Marshall went 33 picks later.

I think this shows however that Scot has not done as piss poor a job as some make it our to be. I think when it comes down to it, a lot look back at what we could have had after some of these guys make an impact and think of what could have been or become upset because the 49ers selected a player they knew little about coming out as opposed to a player they wanted. Prime example is Desean Jackson, but fact is 32 NFL teams didn't select him in the 1st round and the Eagles did not even make him their 1st selection in that draft. Even professionals make mistakes or undervalue some players coming out of college.

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Where's 2009?

Seeing as there is really only 1 season to go on for that it was left out. Hard to truly judge a player based off his rookie year considering that is when the biggest adjustment for a player takes place.

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Where's 2009?

A little early to evaluate the 2009 draft?

07 is really a good class. But other than that I don't think Scot M. has much to write home about.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by lamontb:
What made you pick the teams you did? Ravens and Eagles are usually picking much later than the Niners thus there talent shouldn't be on par with 1st round picks. Biggest thing i notice that 05 they had 11 picks and the only sure fire winner out of the bunch is Gore. 06 got the team some quality starting talent, and talent at depth. It would have been a A+ draft if Brandon Marshall was selected instead of that bum Brandon Williams. Those type of bonehead draft moves can't happen again. 07 was by far his best draft really no complaints. Getting value from Goldson and Brown was a major bonus to that class. 08 so far looks like a complete waste except for Morgan. You just can't miss on a complete draft class. All in all he's average to below average. Looking at all these teams let's you know that you can find good to great talent in later rounds. Many of the best players out of all these teams combined are later than 2nd round picks.

Respected GM's is the reason for picking these teams. While these teams have all made the playoffs during these years they all also had seasons where they drafted inside the top 15.

Re: Marshall, after Williams was selected 6 WR's went before Marshall (Maurice Stovall, Willie Reid, Brad Smith, Cory Rodgers, Jason Avant and Demetrius Williams). So a lot of teams made that same bonehead move in hindsight, Marshall went 33 picks later.

I think this shows however that Scot has not done as piss poor a job as some make it our to be. I think when it comes down to it, a lot look back at what we could have had after some of these guys make an impact and think of what could have been or become upset because the 49ers selected a player they knew little about coming out as opposed to a player they wanted. Prime example is Desean Jackson, but fact is 32 NFL teams didn't select him in the 1st round and the Eagles did not even make him their 1st selection in that draft. Even professionals make mistakes or undervalue some players coming out of college.

Cool on why you picked those teams, and I agree he's not piss poor. But I don't think he's that great either. The draft is a gamble. Anyway to slice it Brandon Williams was a horrible pick. It just compounds it that Marshall was on the board chilling. And to me it's more about the players he selected instead of Jackson or Marshall that is the problem. Of course other teams passed him up but some of those teams passed him up for better talent and better players. Niners passed him up twice for players who just aren't that good. I think there is a bigger hate for Scot b/c he passed on Jackson b/c there are a ton of folks from Cali and fans of Cal U who support the Niners. Plus you add in the Jerry Rice working the kid out and telling the team they should draft him is what makes certain fans so irate about that one. Everybody has misses, and nobody should be expected to be perfect. But you just can't have complete failures for an entire draft class. And his stance on guards is really troubling and telling why he seems to keep drafting bad ones. At the end of the day it all comes down to Smith. Not sure if that pick was all Nolan, but if Smith becomes a franchise qb I believe Scott would be looked at differently. If he comes out and just looks blah then the pitchforks will be out to kill him. I can't deny that he has brought in a lot of talent to this team, but he's had some big misses. Which leads me back to believing he's average. I'm probably to harsh on him at times myself, but I can't say he's done a terrible job.

I would like to add that I believe Nolan had a hand in a few of those drafts ( for the good or the bad, you decide.)

Scot (and Nolan) have done a generally pretty good job on the talent side. When they got here in 05 we were basically an expansion team. They drafted fairly well and added some pretty good FAs and we're competitive now. With a good draft this year we should be a good team in the next few years. The big question remains Alex. He played a lot better last year. If he can play well this year and they get another weapon on offense we should be a playoff team. Hey, he isn't Bill Walsh, but then who is? My grade for Scot - B-.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Interesting. Other teams add to their lines - particularly OL almost every season. There's a reason we don't have depth.

Let's look at that trend and how many each team drafted in that time frame, how many are still on each team and how many were 1st or 2nd round picks.

Ravens - 7 drafted (6 still with team, Jason Brown is now a Ram via FA last year) 3 drafted in 1st/2nd rounds
Packers - 8 drafted (5 still with team) 1 drafted in 1st/2nd rounds
Eagles - 8 drafted (5 still with team) 1 drafted in 1st/2nd rounds
49ers - 6 drafted (5 still with team) 3 drafted in 1st/2nd rounds