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2012-13 General NBA Discussion Thread
Oct 8, 2012 at 18:47:13
#91
- StOnEy333
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Oct 8, 2012 at 19:47:43
#92
- marshniners24
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.
LOL as a King
Oct 8, 2012 at 20:03:31
#93
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Originally posted by marshniners24:Originally posted by StOnEy333:What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.
LOL as a King
You don't go in as a member of one team or another. That's only in baseball.
Oct 8, 2012 at 21:21:17
#94
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.
There is no NBA HOF right? Isn't it a basketball HOF? That includes high school, college and NBA? That is what I thought.
Anyway, IMO, Artest is not HOF material.
Oct 8, 2012 at 21:54:31
#95
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Originally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by StOnEy333:What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.
There is no NBA HOF right? Isn't it a basketball HOF? That includes high school, college and NBA? That is what I thought.
Anyway, IMO, Artest is not HOF material.
Right. It's just the Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame. Named after the games inventor. It covers the entire world of basketball.
[ Edited by StOnEy333 on Oct 8, 2012 at 21:54:43 ]
Oct 8, 2012 at 22:39:50
#96
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:You don't go in as a member of one team or another. That's only in baseball.
Lol oh. Well he should go in the boxing HOF IMO
Oct 8, 2012 at 22:40:20
#97
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I don't think Artest gets in, and I don't think he deserves to.
Oct 8, 2012 at 22:56:55
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:I don't think Artest gets in, and I don't think he deserves to.
Doesn't even deserve a conversation about it.
Oct 8, 2012 at 23:02:49
#99
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Originally posted by 9erReign:Originally posted by LA9erFan:I don't think Artest gets in, and I don't think he deserves to.
Doesn't even deserve a conversation about it.
Why do you say that?
Oct 9, 2012 at 06:51:43
#100
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I don't think Artest gets in, and I don't think he deserves to.
Doesn't even deserve a conversation about it.
Why do you say that?
what has he done that hall of fame worthy? No way he gets in
Oct 9, 2012 at 08:32:12
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.
Absoutely not. No f**king way is Ron Artest a Hall of Famer in any sense of the word.
Oct 9, 2012 at 09:07:30
#102
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Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
What's everybody's thoughts on if Ron Artest is a HoFer? I personally think he'll get it. Not a first ballot, but eventually.
Absoutely not. No f**king way is Ron Artest a Hall of Famer in any sense of the word.
This
Oct 9, 2012 at 10:04:45
#103
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Stoney you're off your rocker if you think Artest's a HOFer
Look at his credentials:
FG% .418
Points 11,757 (14.2 ppg)
Rebounds 3,908 (4.7 rpg)
Assists 2,464 (3 apg)
Steals 1,543 (1.9 spg)
NBA champion (2010)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2004)
NBA All-Star (2004)
All-NBA Third Team (2004)
2× All-Defensive First Team (2004, 2006)
2× All-Defensive Second Team (2003, 2009)
Now look at Dennis Johnson's, who was overlooked for nearly 2 decades and barely got in, posthumously:
FG% .445
Points 15,535 (14.9 ppg)
Rebounds 4,249 (3.9 rpg)
Assists 5,499 (5.0 apg)
Steals 1,477 (1.3 spg)
3× NBA champion (1979, 1984, 1986)
Finals MVP (1979)
5× NBA All-Star (1979–1982, 1985)
All-NBA First Team (1981)
All-NBA Second Team (1980)
6× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1979–1983, 1987)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1984–1986)
#3 Retired by the Boston Celtics
And those are just numbers. Dennis Johnson was hugely instrumental in the 3 championships he helped win. Artest's contributions to the Lakers 2010 championship pale in comparison.
Look at his credentials:
FG% .418
Points 11,757 (14.2 ppg)
Rebounds 3,908 (4.7 rpg)
Assists 2,464 (3 apg)
Steals 1,543 (1.9 spg)
NBA champion (2010)
NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2004)
NBA All-Star (2004)
All-NBA Third Team (2004)
2× All-Defensive First Team (2004, 2006)
2× All-Defensive Second Team (2003, 2009)
Now look at Dennis Johnson's, who was overlooked for nearly 2 decades and barely got in, posthumously:
FG% .445
Points 15,535 (14.9 ppg)
Rebounds 4,249 (3.9 rpg)
Assists 5,499 (5.0 apg)
Steals 1,477 (1.3 spg)
3× NBA champion (1979, 1984, 1986)
Finals MVP (1979)
5× NBA All-Star (1979–1982, 1985)
All-NBA First Team (1981)
All-NBA Second Team (1980)
6× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1979–1983, 1987)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1984–1986)
#3 Retired by the Boston Celtics
And those are just numbers. Dennis Johnson was hugely instrumental in the 3 championships he helped win. Artest's contributions to the Lakers 2010 championship pale in comparison.
[ Edited by TheSixthRing on Oct 9, 2012 at 10:23:46 ]
Oct 9, 2012 at 10:25:41
#104
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If Pau Gasol was American, would he be a HOFer?
Oct 9, 2012 at 11:41:10
#105
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
If Pau Gasol was American, would he be a HOFer?
He'd be on the fence. Probably not, though. That he's a 7x European player of the year winner, has 2 Olympic silvers and 3 Golds in FIBA play for Spain will be enough for him to get in when combined with his NBA accomplishments.
[ Edited by TheSixthRing on Oct 9, 2012 at 11:41:45 ]
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