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Originally posted by valrod33:
In my opinion in his prime he would have defeated anybody else in their prime. Nothing anybody can say will change my opinion so dont waste your time trying
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
The guy lost to Buster Fricking Douglas and was an embarassment to boxing when he bit Holyfield's ear. GOAT? I dont see it. He never beat a great fighter who was in his prime. Yes, he was scary but I still cant put him at the top.
Originally posted by maximill15:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
The guy lost to Buster Fricking Douglas and was an embarassment to boxing when he bit Holyfield's ear. GOAT? I dont see it. He never beat a great fighter who was in his prime. Yes, he was scary but I still cant put him at the top.
Personal issues aside, he's the only man to knock out holmes in 75 bouts (granted he was old) He made quick work of Michael Spinks who was never knocked out and after that he lost all focus on boxing and spiraled out of control with his personal life and getting rid of his trainers. Im speaking on pure ability. Ali in his prime vs Tyson in his prime, im winning money on tyson!
Originally posted by maximill15:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
The guy lost to Buster Fricking Douglas and was an embarassment to boxing when he bit Holyfield's ear. GOAT? I dont see it. He never beat a great fighter who was in his prime. Yes, he was scary but I still cant put him at the top.
Personal issues aside, he's the only man to knock out holmes in 75 bouts (granted he was old) He made quick work of Michael Spinks who was never knocked out and after that he lost all focus on boxing and spiraled out of control with his personal life and getting rid of his trainers. Im speaking on pure ability. Ali in his prime vs Tyson in his prime, im winning money on tyson!
Originally posted by maximill15:
Im sorry, but there's never been a better heavy weight in boxing. Yeah Ali was amazing and smarter, but he could handle repetivie left hooks from tyson like he did Foreman. G.O.A.T.
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major fcuking FAIL. back to GO try again nyjer's. rent some videos, do some research. i never liked tyson in his boxing days but have learned to admire him here as of late for the person he has become. good to see him make personal sacrifices to better himself as a human being. with that said let me break down whom was the GREATEST HEAVY WEIGHT BOXER OF ALL TIME so you don't have to rewind it back. in mighty mos def's voice
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by maximill15:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
The guy lost to Buster Fricking Douglas and was an embarassment to boxing when he bit Holyfield's ear. GOAT? I dont see it. He never beat a great fighter who was in his prime. Yes, he was scary but I still cant put him at the top.
Personal issues aside, he's the only man to knock out holmes in 75 bouts (granted he was old) He made quick work of Michael Spinks who was never knocked out and after that he lost all focus on boxing and spiraled out of control with his personal life and getting rid of his trainers. Im speaking on pure ability. Ali in his prime vs Tyson in his prime, im winning money on tyson!
We will just have to agree ti disagree. I think George Foreman in his prime would have destroyed Tyson. WAY too big and strong for Tyson.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by maximill15:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
The guy lost to Buster Fricking Douglas and was an embarassment to boxing when he bit Holyfield's ear. GOAT? I dont see it. He never beat a great fighter who was in his prime. Yes, he was scary but I still cant put him at the top.
Personal issues aside, he's the only man to knock out holmes in 75 bouts (granted he was old) He made quick work of Michael Spinks who was never knocked out and after that he lost all focus on boxing and spiraled out of control with his personal life and getting rid of his trainers. Im speaking on pure ability. Ali in his prime vs Tyson in his prime, im winning money on tyson!
Michael Spinks was a great LIGHT heavyweight but undersized and won the heavyweight title at a time when there were just no great fighters in their primes. Larry Holmes was WAY past his prime when he fought Tyson. I think Holmes would have beaten him in his prime. Again, just too big for Tyson.
I do think Tyson was an animal but its hard to say he was the GOAT when he lost to Douglas and never beat a great great fighter in their prime years.