Originally posted by bayarealuv:
Originally posted by danimal:
Exactly like I predicted. Manny was going to carry Marquez in this fight. No reason for Pac to bring his A game to this one. For one, Marquez is problematic for him and dangerous so there was no good reason to take chances against him. But also, Pac always has to be careful now not to scare Mayweather even further.
In regards to possible juicing.....was anyone else surprised by the size of Marquez??? Wow, now that dude put on some muscle mass....and he is in his late thirties!
so you really think pac wasn't goin' hard on purpose? i dunno man.. he doesn't seem like the type that would do that
I do know this. That wasn't Pacs best. So either it was purposeful......OR he truly is declining. It could be either, I fully admit that it could be the latter. However I did predict Manny was going to carry Marquez in this fight, so I am still favoring that assumption.I'm just sayin, he had reasons to not go balls out on this one.
As for the outcome of the fight. It could have gone either way but I can honestly say that nobody got cheated on this one.
First I would like to clear up something that continues to get repeated.Marquez landed the cleaner shots.That is a true statement, but it is also an incomplete statement. The fact of the matter is NEITHER fighter landed any devastating shots. Let me repeat that...NEITHER fighter landed any devastating shotsAlso, did Marquez land some cleaner shots? Yes. But barely so. He landed 2, 3 more tops. And they were just a tad harder punches. So while Marquez did land cleaner shots, it was only by a couple and they were only a bit cleaner.
The reason why Pac was declared the winner, is because AS ALWAYS, he is a f**king machine and ALWAYS puts in more punches than his opponent. Anyone who understands boxing knows if we could still have 15 to 20 round fights, its guys like Pac who would benefit the most. You can tell his stamina is just on a different level than most fighters, Marquez included. Each round Pac put in more more work than Marquez.
The reason why Marquez made it hard for the judges to not give him the loss is because he went way too conservative in the last 2 to 3 rounds. If his corner was telling him he was the winner already than too bad for him for listening. Any fighter with the sense of a billy goat should have realized he was in an effective draw and it could go either way. I think the judges needed Marquez to not solely rely on the counter punching, you have to give Pac a chance to do some countering also. I know that was my expectation at the end.It was the right decision. It was not an impressive victory, but neither side earned that.
Neither fighter wanted this fight to go like the first two, they both were a bit shy in this one, and neither wanted to hit the canvas. In the end, the challenger failed to realize he was the challenger, and despite what his corner was telling him and was nowhere near a assured win
[ Edited by danimal on Nov 14, 2011 at 12:58:24 ]