Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by dobo:
Actually, this has got me thinking. Is there a fanbase that has had as adversarial relationship with Shaq as San Antonio?
San Antonio LOVED him when he was in high school and even at LSU. Then he came into San Antonio as a pro and started smack talking the Admiral. Then he joined the Lakers -- the Lakers! -- and started smack talking Duncan and called the Spurs a WNBA team.
In many ways, Robinson was the perfect foil for Shaq. One, he was a boring, God-fearing, all-around nice guy. Two, he was an established superstar, arguably the best center in the league when Shaq joined the league. Three, his style was the opposite of Shaq's. Robinson was a slender, face-the-basket, athletic freak who had decent range. Shaq was a more traditional big; he lived in the post and just physically dominated his opponents on both ends.
Aguably the 2nd best maybe. Hakeem owned him, especially when it mattered most. I like DRob, but he didn't win anything until TD came to town.
I agree, Hakeem was a better player. I honestly believe Tim Duncan, in his prime, would give Hakeem some trouble...but Tim Duncan is a "SF".
Dobo, I think Shaq's animosity towards Robinson was about an issue when Shaq was younger and Robinson denied him an autograph. I remember hearing about something like that.
On another note, am I the only one who believes Tim Duncan should be a top 5 player EVER? Has there been any other play to win multiple championships without a superstar #2? Don't get me wrong, D. Robinson was a top 50 ever but was not the same player during the Spurs 1st championship. Also, how about Tim Duncan's 3rd and 4th rings. He is the only player I can think of to win multiple rings without a dominant sidekick that requires a double-team.
I think it's definitely possible. Duncan has an extremely unique resume. No one outside of perhaps Hakeem in '94 won a title with a supporting cast as weak as Timmy's in '03. His 2 year stretch in the 01-02 and 02-03 seasons was arguably the best 2 year stretch ever, especially for a big. I think there were at least 3 years where Duncan was the best player in the league, something VERY few players can say has been the case with them. He is one of the best, if not THE best defensive players of all time, and he did it without fouling (tragedy that he will finish his career without a defensive player of the year award). That, coupled with his consistent ability to drop 22-25 on any given night on better than 50% shooting, grab 12+ boards, block 2.5+ shots, dish 3.5+ dimes, etc. without any glaring weaknesses (he was never a TERRIBLE free throw shooter and even shot 80% in one of his MVP years) may deserve him to be placed amongst the Jordans, Wilts, and Magics.
[ Edited by andes14 on Jun 2, 2011 at 2:03 PM ]