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2011 NBA Draft Thread

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Top 10 Prospects: Very PF heavy

1) Derick Williams PF Arizona
2) Kyle Irving PG Duke
3) Jared Sullinger PF Ohio St
4) Harison Barnes SG/SF UNC
5) Enes Kanter PF/C Kentucky
6) Perry Jones PF Baylor
7) Terrence Jones PF Kentuky
8) Jordan Hamilton SF Texas
9) Kawhi Leonard SF San Diego St
10) Kemba Walker PG Uconn

D Williams and both the Jones's will likely be SFs in the NBA. They may each play a little 4 here and there but all three will primarily be 3s. Unless they play for Don Nelson that is.

So Foward heavy, not necessarily PF heavy...

[ Edited by TTown9ers on Mar 25, 2011 at 09:32:42 ]
My favorite player that I've seen in college this year (and I haven't watched a ton) is Harrison Barnes. I'm usually not a fan of the James Harden/Evan Turner type of swingmen...guys with so-so athleticism...but I think he has a more developed skill set than the those guys do. The type of shots that he hits are NBA shots, and he has great balance. One thing I look for is a guy that can get his defender off balance while maintaining his own, and he does that. Very polished offensive player. And on top of that, he's a phenomenal defender, with great length and instincts.

Perhaps just as importantly, I've heard from the basketball people that I talk to that he's a total gym rat and a very mature kid. Works VERY hard on his game, which is probably how he was able to overcome a rough start to tear it up over the last couple of months.

I was unimpressed with him based on his highlight reels last year, but from watching him play, I've become a really big fan.

As for Derrick Williams, he's kind of a tweener, but he definitely has ability. I think if he's going to be an elite player at the next level, it's gonna be at the SF position, not PF. But I don't know if he has the guard skills (yet) to do that effectively. He has talent, but how good he's going to be is going to mostly be determined by how hard he works on his game, specifically on the perimeter.

I loved Perry Jones before the season and he showed flashes of brilliance, but he's still very raw. I don't know anything about his love for the game, but if he has it, he should be the #1 pick. He has the most raw talent in the draft. I just didn't see much development in his game this year, which makes me wonder.

I actually think the talent at the top of this draft is decent, but it falls off of a cliff after about 6 guys. My Top 6 would be...

1) Harrison Barnes, SF North Carolina
2) Perry Jones, PF Baylor
3) Kyrie Irving, PG Duke
4) Jonas Valanciunas, C
5) Derrick Williams, SF/PF Arizona
6) Brandon Knight, PG/SG Kentucky
you guys need to watch Derrick Williams more, he has Guard skills, no he may not have handles like Lamar Odom but very few big guys do.

Williams could improve his ball handling a bit more but i see no problem with him playing SF in the NBA.


last night when Duke started to press to try and catch up if AZ couldnt get the ball to their PG they would go to Williams and he would bring the ball up and get the offense going

I agree with everything LA said about Harrison Barnes, I like him a lot

[ Edited by valrod33 on Mar 25, 2011 at 09:43:57 ]
Originally posted by valrod33:
you guys need to watch Derrick Williams more, he has Guard skills, no he may not have handles like Lamar Odom but very few big guys do.

Williams could improve his ball handling a bit more but i see no problem with him playing SF in the NBA.

I agree with everything LA said about Harrison Barnes, I like him a lot

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that he doesn't have guard skills...I just think that if he's gonna be an elite player in the pros, it's gonna be at SF, and his guard skills aren't quite where they need to be in order for him to be a really good player at that spot at the next level. But he definitely has the building blocks in terms of those skills, so that's why I said that I think that how good he'll be is gonna be determined by how hard he works on those. I think he could be an Andre Iguodala kinda player, or a Tim Thomas kinda player, depending on his work ethic.

[ Edited by LA9erFan on Mar 25, 2011 at 09:47:44 ]
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by valrod33:
you guys need to watch Derrick Williams more, he has Guard skills, no he may not have handles like Lamar Odom but very few big guys do.

Williams could improve his ball handling a bit more but i see no problem with him playing SF in the NBA.

I agree with everything LA said about Harrison Barnes, I like him a lot

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that he doesn't have guard skills...I just think that if he's gonna be an elite player in the pros, it's gonna be at SF, and his guard skills aren't quite where they need to be in order for him to be a really good player at that spot at the next level. But he definitely has the building blocks in terms of those skills, so that's why I said that I think that how good he'll be is gonna be determined by how hard he works on those. I think he could be an Andre Iguodala kinda player, or a Tim Thomas kinda player, depending on his work ethic.

yeah i re-read your initial post and figured thats what you meant. Chad Ford said a scout compared him to Danny Granger
Originally posted by LA9erFan:


1) Harrison Barnes, SF North Carolina
2) Perry Jones, PF Baylor
3) Kyrie Irving, PG Duke
4) Jonas Valanciunas, C
5) Derrick Williams, SF/PF Arizona
6) Brandon Knight, PG/SG Kentucky

Where do you have Enes Kanter ranked? I know he didn't play this season because of eligibility issues, but I think he'll be pretty good and should be a top 5 pick.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:


1) Harrison Barnes, SF North Carolina
2) Perry Jones, PF Baylor
3) Kyrie Irving, PG Duke
4) Jonas Valanciunas, C
5) Derrick Williams, SF/PF Arizona
6) Brandon Knight, PG/SG Kentucky

Where do you have Enes Kanter ranked? I know he didn't play this season because of eligibility issues, but I think he'll be pretty good and should be a top 5 pick.

Probably 7th. He's solid, but I think he's on the next tier below. I'm not even all that head over heels over Knight, but I think he's talented.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by valrod33:
you guys need to watch Derrick Williams more, he has Guard skills, no he may not have handles like Lamar Odom but very few big guys do.

Williams could improve his ball handling a bit more but i see no problem with him playing SF in the NBA.

I agree with everything LA said about Harrison Barnes, I like him a lot

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that he doesn't have guard skills...I just think that if he's gonna be an elite player in the pros, it's gonna be at SF, and his guard skills aren't quite where they need to be in order for him to be a really good player at that spot at the next level. But he definitely has the building blocks in terms of those skills, so that's why I said that I think that how good he'll be is gonna be determined by how hard he works on those. I think he could be an Andre Iguodala kinda player, or a Tim Thomas kinda player, depending on his work ethic.

yeah i re-read your initial post and figured thats what you meant. Chad Ford said a scout compared him to Danny Granger

That's a good comparison. Granger was that kinda player when he came out too.
Originally posted by valrod33:
I want Kyrie Irving or Harrison Barnes on the Twolves next year

Irving is not a good fit for the Wolves, you guys have enough PGs
FWIW...I think Harrison Barnes has the kind of demeanor that's found in the Kobe's, Fisher's, Garnett's, Pierce's, Billups', etc. of the league.
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Top 10 Prospects: Very PF heavy

1) Derick Williams PF Arizona
2) Kyle Irving PG Duke
3) Jared Sullinger PF Ohio St
4) Harison Barnes SG/SF UNC
5) Enes Kanter PF/C Kentucky
6) Perry Jones PF Baylor
7) Terrence Jones PF Kentuky
8) Jordan Hamilton SF Texas
9) Kawhi Leonard SF San Diego St
10) Kemba Walker PG Uconn

Barnes to the kings
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by valrod33:
you guys need to watch Derrick Williams more, he has Guard skills, no he may not have handles like Lamar Odom but very few big guys do.

Williams could improve his ball handling a bit more but i see no problem with him playing SF in the NBA.

I agree with everything LA said about Harrison Barnes, I like him a lot

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that he doesn't have guard skills...I just think that if he's gonna be an elite player in the pros, it's gonna be at SF, and his guard skills aren't quite where they need to be in order for him to be a really good player at that spot at the next level. But he definitely has the building blocks in terms of those skills, so that's why I said that I think that how good he'll be is gonna be determined by how hard he works on those. I think he could be an Andre Iguodala kinda player, or a Tim Thomas kinda player, depending on his work ethic.

yeah i re-read your initial post and figured thats what you meant. Chad Ford said a scout compared him to Danny Granger

That's a good comparison. Granger was that kinda player when he came out too.

i would LOVE to have granger.

Also, you think Kemba Walker is a talent level below those top 6?

He seems like ice runs through his veins and he has the talent and confidence to match.
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by valrod33:
I want Kyrie Irving or Harrison Barnes on the Twolves next year

Irving is not a good fit for the Wolves, you guys have enough PGs

Trade Rubio to the Knicks and Flynn to whoever will take him.

Irving and Ridnour FTW
Alec Burks will be one of the top players.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Alec Burks will be one of the top players.

I like him too