Official Hot Stove Thread (MLB free agency)

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

Originally posted by jrg:
Is it baseball season yet?

Are you not entertained by the San Francisco 49ers?!

I just wish baseball was 365 days a year.

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by jrg:
This Colby Rasmus for Carlos Quentin talk is pissing me off

f**k Carlos Quentin..they can keep his .240 average.

Gonna have to do better then that Chicago.

Colby Rasmus for Jair Jurrens was talked about by a braves blogger.

I was like

Thats even worse then Quentin lol

Colby Rasmus to the Giants for FREE!

Lol, but seriously, this get rid of Colby Rasmus stuff out of StL is dumb on their part.

Jonathon Sanchez for Colby Rasmus is a deal that would actually be good for both teams.

You can keep Sanchez

Well you can't keep Rasmus lol.

Lol yeah we can...he's not going anywhere.

Why would he want to play with a declining team like the Cards when he can play for the World Champion San Francisco Giants. Oh wait.. I'm sure he would. He just cant be a FA for a long time.

A declining team?!

lol he said the cardinals are a declining team
i bet the giants dont even make the playoffs next year

Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by jrg:
This Colby Rasmus for Carlos Quentin talk is pissing me off

f**k Carlos Quentin..they can keep his .240 average.

Gonna have to do better then that Chicago.

Colby Rasmus for Jair Jurrens was talked about by a braves blogger.

I was like

Thats even worse then Quentin lol

Colby Rasmus to the Giants for FREE!

Lol, but seriously, this get rid of Colby Rasmus stuff out of StL is dumb on their part.

Jonathon Sanchez for Colby Rasmus is a deal that would actually be good for both teams.

You can keep Sanchez

Well you can't keep Rasmus lol.

Lol yeah we can...he's not going anywhere.

Why would he want to play with a declining team like the Cards when he can play for the World Champion San Francisco Giants. Oh wait.. I'm sure he would. He just cant be a FA for a long time.

A declining team?!

lol he said the cardinals are a declining team
i bet the giants dont even make the playoffs next year

Lol I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants make the playoffs again..I don't see them likely going back to the WS though..I'd say the Rangers get back to the WS before the Giants. But the Cardinals are suddenly a declining team? Reds just had a breakout season..w/o our injuries we would have won the division..its all good though..Giants fans are probably still drunk from the WS.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by jrg:
This Colby Rasmus for Carlos Quentin talk is pissing me off

f**k Carlos Quentin..they can keep his .240 average.

Gonna have to do better then that Chicago.

Colby Rasmus for Jair Jurrens was talked about by a braves blogger.

I was like

Thats even worse then Quentin lol

Colby Rasmus to the Giants for FREE!

Lol, but seriously, this get rid of Colby Rasmus stuff out of StL is dumb on their part.

Jonathon Sanchez for Colby Rasmus is a deal that would actually be good for both teams.

I'd do it. Rasmus will be a star.

Im sure the Giants would pull the trigger on that one. I dont know if the Cards would though. I'm not sure why the Rasmus trade talk either.

whats so great about Colby Rasmus? i would certainly NOT trade Sanchez for him straight up.

people dont seem to get what Sanchez is. hes a young, left handed SP with a fantastic k/9 and league leading opp. avg. who can pitch 200+ innings, has no hit caliber stuff when hes right, his stats have been rapidly improving each year, and for the time being hes dirt cheap.

Jonathan Sanchez is GOLD. pure gold to other GM's. all those things i just mentioned....kinda rare to find all in one place. he has his control issues, but thats pretty much the only reason why he isnt an ace already. every teams pitching coach looks at him and says "im confident i could help fix his control issues, and then hed be our ace".

Colby Rasmus is a young OF with decent pop and potential to be a solid major league hitter. you can find those all over. most every team has a guy like Colby Rasmus in their organization.

now i dont really look at the Cards as a team in need of a SP as much as other teams, so they probably wouldnt be willing to pay Sanchez's price. but for a team in need of starting pitching, they would deal a couple real good hitters for Sanchez. Brian Sabean has stated that at some point every single major league team has called him about what hed want for Sanchez.

CrankDAT --- the Giants will come in as favorites to win the NL West. You remember when we had a bad offense this past season? When we won the world championship? Well, we have these pitchers:

Tim Lincecum
Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner

And our other two really aren't bad.

Barry Zito
J. Sanchez

Sanchez is erratic, yes, but he got us into the playoffs so I give him the benefit of the doubt. The pressure, for some reason, got to his head. And Zito, well, not too bad for a #5.

Guarentee we re-sign Huff and Ross. We get a bat or maybe Brandon Belt pans out this upcoming year.

I don't see how you can even say the Giants won't make the playoffs with the homegrown pitchers we have. We will be a force for years. If we can shore up some offense, we will be downright scary.

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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by jrg:
This Colby Rasmus for Carlos Quentin talk is pissing me off

f**k Carlos Quentin..they can keep his .240 average.

Gonna have to do better then that Chicago.

Colby Rasmus for Jair Jurrens was talked about by a braves blogger.

I was like

Thats even worse then Quentin lol

Colby Rasmus to the Giants for FREE!

Lol, but seriously, this get rid of Colby Rasmus stuff out of StL is dumb on their part.

Jonathon Sanchez for Colby Rasmus is a deal that would actually be good for both teams.

I'd do it. Rasmus will be a star.

Im sure the Giants would pull the trigger on that one. I dont know if the Cards would though. I'm not sure why the Rasmus trade talk either.

whats so great about Colby Rasmus? i would certainly NOT trade Sanchez for him straight up.

people dont seem to get what Sanchez is. hes a young, left handed SP with a fantastic k/9 and league leading opp. avg. who can pitch 200+ innings, has no hit caliber stuff when hes right, his stats have been rapidly improving each year, and for the time being hes dirt cheap.

Jonathan Sanchez is GOLD. pure gold to other GM's. all those things i just mentioned....kinda rare to find all in one place. he has his control issues, but thats pretty much the only reason why he isnt an ace already. every teams pitching coach looks at him and says "im confident i could help fix his control issues, and then hed be our ace".

Colby Rasmus is a young OF with decent pop and potential to be a solid major league hitter. you can find those all over. most every team has a guy like Colby Rasmus in their organization.

now i dont really look at the Cards as a team in need of a SP as much as other teams, so they probably wouldnt be willing to pay Sanchez's price. but for a team in need of starting pitching, they would deal a couple real good hitters for Sanchez. Brian Sabean has stated that at some point every single major league team has called him about what hed want for Sanchez.

Quote:
From the Preseason Top 50 Prospects list, the following have moved on: 1. David Price; 2. Matt Wieters; 4. Rick Porcello; 5. Cameron Maybin; 7. Travis Snider; 10. Colby Rasmus; 12. Andrew McCutchen; 13. Brett Anderson; 15. Dexter Fowler; 17. Trevor Cahill; 21. Elvis Andrus; 23. Mat Gamel; 24. Tommy Hanson; 45. James McDonald; 46. Derek Holland; 47. Kyle Blanks; 50. Jeff Samardzija.

Maybe we can trade you Brad Penny for Buster Posey while were at it.

Originally posted by chico49erfan:
CrankDAT --- the Giants will come in as favorites to win the NL West. You remember when we had a bad offense this past season? When we won the world championship? Well, we have these pitchers:

Tim Lincecum
Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner

And our other two really aren't bad.

Barry Zito
J. Sanchez

Sanchez is erratic, yes, but he got us into the playoffs so I give him the benefit of the doubt. The pressure, for some reason, got to his head. And Zito, well, not too bad for a #5.

Guarentee we re-sign Huff and Ross. We get a bat or maybe Brandon Belt pans out this upcoming year.

I don't see how you can even say the Giants won't make the playoffs with the homegrown pitchers we have. We will be a force for years. If we can shore up some offense, we will be downright scary.

Sanchez was our best pitcher in the regular season last year, 3.04 ERA. I dunno if I am ready to claim Bumgarner better over the course of an entire season

Just wishful thinking but what if we were able to get HanRam from Florida. Wondering if a package of J. Sanchez, Wheeler, & Belt would get it done. Thoughts?

Originally posted by AC49er:
Just wishful thinking but what if we were able to get HanRam from Florida. Wondering if a package of J. Sanchez, Wheeler, & Belt would get it done. Thoughts?

lay off the weed on saturday mornings

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by jrg:
This Colby Rasmus for Carlos Quentin talk is pissing me off

f**k Carlos Quentin..they can keep his .240 average.

Gonna have to do better then that Chicago.

Colby Rasmus for Jair Jurrens was talked about by a braves blogger.

I was like

Thats even worse then Quentin lol

Colby Rasmus to the Giants for FREE!

Lol, but seriously, this get rid of Colby Rasmus stuff out of StL is dumb on their part.

Jonathon Sanchez for Colby Rasmus is a deal that would actually be good for both teams.

I'd do it. Rasmus will be a star.

Im sure the Giants would pull the trigger on that one. I dont know if the Cards would though. I'm not sure why the Rasmus trade talk either.

whats so great about Colby Rasmus? i would certainly NOT trade Sanchez for him straight up.

people dont seem to get what Sanchez is. hes a young, left handed SP with a fantastic k/9 and league leading opp. avg. who can pitch 200+ innings, has no hit caliber stuff when hes right, his stats have been rapidly improving each year, and for the time being hes dirt cheap.

Jonathan Sanchez is GOLD. pure gold to other GM's. all those things i just mentioned....kinda rare to find all in one place. he has his control issues, but thats pretty much the only reason why he isnt an ace already. every teams pitching coach looks at him and says "im confident i could help fix his control issues, and then hed be our ace".

Colby Rasmus is a young OF with decent pop and potential to be a solid major league hitter. you can find those all over. most every team has a guy like Colby Rasmus in their organization.

now i dont really look at the Cards as a team in need of a SP as much as other teams, so they probably wouldnt be willing to pay Sanchez's price. but for a team in need of starting pitching, they would deal a couple real good hitters for Sanchez. Brian Sabean has stated that at some point every single major league team has called him about what hed want for Sanchez.

Quote:
From the Preseason Top 50 Prospects list, the following have moved on: 1. David Price; 2. Matt Wieters; 4. Rick Porcello; 5. Cameron Maybin; 7. Travis Snider; 10. Colby Rasmus; 12. Andrew McCutchen; 13. Brett Anderson; 15. Dexter Fowler; 17. Trevor Cahill; 21. Elvis Andrus; 23. Mat Gamel; 24. Tommy Hanson; 45. James McDonald; 46. Derek Holland; 47. Kyle Blanks; 50. Jeff Samardzija.

Maybe we can trade you Brad Penny for Buster Posey while were at it.

im very aware of Rasmus' past status on the prospect rankings, but that doesnt mean anything. Sanchez has done it in the majors. most of Rasmus' value is potential. that list is old btw. Matt Wieters is number 2 on there, and lets just say he hasnt had a Posey like start to his career...

so far all Rasmus has proved is he can hit .265 with 20 homers in the majors. he also strikes out a ton.

Call me a homer, but I'd rather have Sanchez than Colby Rasmus.

But I do agree with the notion of the Giants shopping Sanchez for a hitter

Originally posted by AC49er:
Just wishful thinking but what if we were able to get HanRam from Florida. Wondering if a package of J. Sanchez, Wheeler, & Belt would get it done. Thoughts?

I like Hanley but I would be hesitant in trading my 2 best prospects in my organization plus one of the top LH sp's in baseball for him. I just think thats too much to give up. I think Florida would highly consider the offer because Belt and Wheeler will be cheap for several years and Hanley is going to cost a fortune very soon.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by jrg:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by jrg:
This Colby Rasmus for Carlos Quentin talk is pissing me off

f**k Carlos Quentin..they can keep his .240 average.

Gonna have to do better then that Chicago.

Colby Rasmus for Jair Jurrens was talked about by a braves blogger.

I was like

Thats even worse then Quentin lol

Colby Rasmus to the Giants for FREE!

Lol, but seriously, this get rid of Colby Rasmus stuff out of StL is dumb on their part.

Jonathon Sanchez for Colby Rasmus is a deal that would actually be good for both teams.

I'd do it. Rasmus will be a star.

Im sure the Giants would pull the trigger on that one. I dont know if the Cards would though. I'm not sure why the Rasmus trade talk either.

whats so great about Colby Rasmus? i would certainly NOT trade Sanchez for him straight up.

people dont seem to get what Sanchez is. hes a young, left handed SP with a fantastic k/9 and league leading opp. avg. who can pitch 200+ innings, has no hit caliber stuff when hes right, his stats have been rapidly improving each year, and for the time being hes dirt cheap.

Jonathan Sanchez is GOLD. pure gold to other GM's. all those things i just mentioned....kinda rare to find all in one place. he has his control issues, but thats pretty much the only reason why he isnt an ace already. every teams pitching coach looks at him and says "im confident i could help fix his control issues, and then hed be our ace".

Colby Rasmus is a young OF with decent pop and potential to be a solid major league hitter. you can find those all over. most every team has a guy like Colby Rasmus in their organization.

now i dont really look at the Cards as a team in need of a SP as much as other teams, so they probably wouldnt be willing to pay Sanchez's price. but for a team in need of starting pitching, they would deal a couple real good hitters for Sanchez. Brian Sabean has stated that at some point every single major league team has called him about what hed want for Sanchez.

Quote:
From the Preseason Top 50 Prospects list, the following have moved on: 1. David Price; 2. Matt Wieters; 4. Rick Porcello; 5. Cameron Maybin; 7. Travis Snider; 10. Colby Rasmus; 12. Andrew McCutchen; 13. Brett Anderson; 15. Dexter Fowler; 17. Trevor Cahill; 21. Elvis Andrus; 23. Mat Gamel; 24. Tommy Hanson; 45. James McDonald; 46. Derek Holland; 47. Kyle Blanks; 50. Jeff Samardzija.

Maybe we can trade you Brad Penny for Buster Posey while were at it.

im very aware of Rasmus' past status on the prospect rankings, but that doesnt mean anything. Sanchez has done it in the majors. most of Rasmus' value is potential. that list is old btw. Matt Wieters is number 2 on there, and lets just say he hasnt had a Posey like start to his career...

so far all Rasmus has proved is he can hit .265 with 20 homers in the majors. he also strikes out a ton.

Rasmus is already a very nice player and has huge upside. The Giants do need another LH bat and he would be a fixture in CF or RF. Sanchez for Rasmus is equal value.

Wow..I'm done here