**OFFICIAL Sacramento Kings 2010-2011 Season Thread**

Originally posted by Super9er81:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by ninerfan21:

Originally posted by sacniner:
This is my take on everything after I have cooled down...

The Jimmer pick is growing on me. He will bring some energy and excitement to the Kings. Also, the kid can shoot. We desperately needed a shooter when the defenses collapse the middle on Reke. Nobody on this team could shoot a lick before Jimmer. Although, my concern is about him playing PG. He didn't really play a "real" PG position in college. It'll be a huge transition for him. We don't really have a veteran backup PG at this point either. And of course the glaring weakness is his defense. This draft was really weak, so why not roll the dice on this kid.

I'm still upset about the Salmons acquisition. I know we have a void at the 3, but Salmons? He is older and his play is declining. He is on the downside of his career. Also, he loves to hold the ball just like Reke. And to top it off, he is owed 31 mill! I would rather have kept Beno and drafted Jimmer. On a good team, Salmons would not be a starter. I was really hoping we would get a good, solid veteran. I know Petrie says he isn't done dealing, but I doubt we get a semi big name FA.

I hope that Thornton keeps his momentum rolling and Reke makes a big improvement in his third season. Also, if Jimmer fills the basket like everyone thinks and Salmons gives us 15 points a game, we may be an exciting team. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

well Jimmer won't necessarily have to play a true PG here either. I believe Evans is going to continue to play that role. When Evans is resting is the only time I think they'll ask Jimmer to facilitate, which I think he is perfectly capable of.

I think the team has given up on the idea of Reke being a PG (and rightfully so). But I think you are right to a certain degree. Reke can handle the ball and I think he and Jimmer will faciltate the offense at different times. Reke is definitely more of a SG than PG. The Kings drafted Jimmer with hopes of being the PG of the future.

I don't know about down the line several years but I'm fairly certain the plan/hope is to re-sign Thornton and start Evans and Thornton together and bring Jimmer and Cisco off the bench. Seems to me like this move further strengthens Tyreke's place at PG for the Kings.

Really? I guess we have different takes. I like Thornton coming off of the bench as a 6th man. Also, I much prefer Reke at SG. And I think Jimmer was drafted with the hopes that he would be much more than a bench guy. This guy is a rockstar.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Super9er81:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by ninerfan21:

Originally posted by sacniner:
This is my take on everything after I have cooled down...

The Jimmer pick is growing on me. He will bring some energy and excitement to the Kings. Also, the kid can shoot. We desperately needed a shooter when the defenses collapse the middle on Reke. Nobody on this team could shoot a lick before Jimmer. Although, my concern is about him playing PG. He didn't really play a "real" PG position in college. It'll be a huge transition for him. We don't really have a veteran backup PG at this point either. And of course the glaring weakness is his defense. This draft was really weak, so why not roll the dice on this kid.

I'm still upset about the Salmons acquisition. I know we have a void at the 3, but Salmons? He is older and his play is declining. He is on the downside of his career. Also, he loves to hold the ball just like Reke. And to top it off, he is owed 31 mill! I would rather have kept Beno and drafted Jimmer. On a good team, Salmons would not be a starter. I was really hoping we would get a good, solid veteran. I know Petrie says he isn't done dealing, but I doubt we get a semi big name FA.

I hope that Thornton keeps his momentum rolling and Reke makes a big improvement in his third season. Also, if Jimmer fills the basket like everyone thinks and Salmons gives us 15 points a game, we may be an exciting team. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

well Jimmer won't necessarily have to play a true PG here either. I believe Evans is going to continue to play that role. When Evans is resting is the only time I think they'll ask Jimmer to facilitate, which I think he is perfectly capable of.

I think the team has given up on the idea of Reke being a PG (and rightfully so). But I think you are right to a certain degree. Reke can handle the ball and I think he and Jimmer will faciltate the offense at different times. Reke is definitely more of a SG than PG. The Kings drafted Jimmer with hopes of being the PG of the future.

I don't know about down the line several years but I'm fairly certain the plan/hope is to re-sign Thornton and start Evans and Thornton together and bring Jimmer and Cisco off the bench. Seems to me like this move further strengthens Tyreke's place at PG for the Kings.

Really? I guess we have different takes. I like Thornton coming off of the bench as a 6th man. Also, I much prefer Reke at SG. And I think Jimmer was drafted with the hopes that he would be much more than a bench guy. This guy is a rockstar.

I don't disagree with you per se, I wast just sharing what I thought the front office plan would be. I can see benefits both ways. I still think the Kings like the mismatch that Tyreke creates at PG. I could be wrong.

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
my friend is a hardcore Kings fans, and lets just say he wasnt very happy about this draft. they blew their chance at Knight to get Salmons back and draft a poor mans Kyle Korver 10th overall.

Kyle Korver is a horrible comparison. I guess that's to be expected when you're white and have great shooting ability though.

A better comparison is Mike Bibby. Jimmer is a 6'2" PG with out of the world shooting range and the ability to create his own shots off the dribble.

Kyle Korver is a 6'7" SG/SF that sits on the 3 point line and not much else.

yet he went 10th in probably the least talented draft in NBA history. the top 2 guys taken project to be league average starters at best, and the rest are mostly role players. dont make Jimmer out to be this big talent. regardless of size differences, the Kings would be thrilled if he turned out as productive a player as Kyle Korver. i dont know who you think youre getting here...

wow. I don't know where I said Jimmer was going to be a superstar.

Just saying the Kyle Korver comparison is a horrible one. They aren't the same type of player.

Yeah that has to be some sort of a joke. Korver never dribbled the ball as well as Jimmer, never got to the rim like Jimmer, and he isnt as athletic as Jimmer. Jimmer was actually the #1 rated WR in HS as a football player, and tested out as like the 3rd most athletic guy at the combine. Korver never averaged 29 PPG either. That's a horrendous comparison. IMO Jimmer will turn out to be a Mike Bibby type player which really compliments Reke and Cousins.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
my friend is a hardcore Kings fans, and lets just say he wasnt very happy about this draft. they blew their chance at Knight to get Salmons back and draft a poor mans Kyle Korver 10th overall.

Kyle Korver is a horrible comparison. I guess that's to be expected when you're white and have great shooting ability though.

A better comparison is Mike Bibby. Jimmer is a 6'2" PG with out of the world shooting range and the ability to create his own shots off the dribble.

Kyle Korver is a 6'7" SG/SF that sits on the 3 point line and not much else.

yet he went 10th in probably the least talented draft in NBA history. the top 2 guys taken project to be league average starters at best, and the rest are mostly role players. dont make Jimmer out to be this big talent. regardless of size differences, the Kings would be thrilled if he turned out as productive a player as Kyle Korver. i dont know who you think youre getting here...

wow. I don't know where I said Jimmer was going to be a superstar.

Just saying the Kyle Korver comparison is a horrible one. They aren't the same type of player.

Yeah that has to be some sort of a joke. Korver never dribbled the ball as well as Jimmer, never got to the rim like Jimmer, and he isnt as athletic as Jimmer. Jimmer was actually the #1 rated WR in HS as a football player, and tested out as like the 3rd most athletic guy at the combine. Korver never averaged 29 PPG either. That's a horrendous comparison. IMO Jimmer will turn out to be a Mike Bibby type player which really compliments Reke and Cousins.

From what I've seen, Jimmer can create his own shot better than Bibby can.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
my friend is a hardcore Kings fans, and lets just say he wasnt very happy about this draft. they blew their chance at Knight to get Salmons back and draft a poor mans Kyle Korver 10th overall.

Kyle Korver is a horrible comparison. I guess that's to be expected when you're white and have great shooting ability though.

A better comparison is Mike Bibby. Jimmer is a 6'2" PG with out of the world shooting range and the ability to create his own shots off the dribble.

Kyle Korver is a 6'7" SG/SF that sits on the 3 point line and not much else.

yet he went 10th in probably the least talented draft in NBA history. the top 2 guys taken project to be league average starters at best, and the rest are mostly role players. dont make Jimmer out to be this big talent. regardless of size differences, the Kings would be thrilled if he turned out as productive a player as Kyle Korver. i dont know who you think youre getting here...

wow. I don't know where I said Jimmer was going to be a superstar.

Just saying the Kyle Korver comparison is a horrible one. They aren't the same type of player.

Yeah that has to be some sort of a joke. Korver never dribbled the ball as well as Jimmer, never got to the rim like Jimmer, and he isnt as athletic as Jimmer. Jimmer was actually the #1 rated WR in HS as a football player, and tested out as like the 3rd most athletic guy at the combine. Korver never averaged 29 PPG either. That's a horrendous comparison. IMO Jimmer will turn out to be a Mike Bibby type player which really compliments Reke and Cousins.

From what I've seen, Jimmer can create his own shot better than Bibby can.

Yeah he can, he is more athletic than Mike was and a better ball handler. I am excited about this pick bro, I think we got a good player. Maybe not a superstar or anything, but a guy who definitely fits the direction we want to go and can hold his own. His skillset really compliments the Kings roster IMO. I just think he's similar to Bibby in the way that he is kind of a scoring PG, can do some creating for others but also score. Cousins is a great passer and so Jimmer should be able to throw it in to Cousins and move without the ball until he's open. This group of guys should really be able to put some stress on defenses.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
my friend is a hardcore Kings fans, and lets just say he wasnt very happy about this draft. they blew their chance at Knight to get Salmons back and draft a poor mans Kyle Korver 10th overall.

Kyle Korver is a horrible comparison. I guess that's to be expected when you're white and have great shooting ability though.

A better comparison is Mike Bibby. Jimmer is a 6'2" PG with out of the world shooting range and the ability to create his own shots off the dribble.

Kyle Korver is a 6'7" SG/SF that sits on the 3 point line and not much else.

yet he went 10th in probably the least talented draft in NBA history. the top 2 guys taken project to be league average starters at best, and the rest are mostly role players. dont make Jimmer out to be this big talent. regardless of size differences, the Kings would be thrilled if he turned out as productive a player as Kyle Korver. i dont know who you think youre getting here...

wow. I don't know where I said Jimmer was going to be a superstar.

Just saying the Kyle Korver comparison is a horrible one. They aren't the same type of player.

Yeah that has to be some sort of a joke. Korver never dribbled the ball as well as Jimmer, never got to the rim like Jimmer, and he isnt as athletic as Jimmer. Jimmer was actually the #1 rated WR in HS as a football player, and tested out as like the 3rd most athletic guy at the combine. Korver never averaged 29 PPG either. That's a horrendous comparison. IMO Jimmer will turn out to be a Mike Bibby type player which really compliments Reke and Cousins.

From what I've seen, Jimmer can create his own shot better than Bibby can.

Yeah he can, he is more athletic than Mike was and a better ball handler. I am excited about this pick bro, I think we got a good player. Maybe not a superstar or anything, but a guy who definitely fits the direction we want to go and can hold his own. His skillset really compliments the Kings roster IMO. I just think he's similar to Bibby in the way that he is kind of a scoring PG, can do some creating for others but also score. Cousins is a great passer and so Jimmer should be able to throw it in to Cousins and move without the ball until he's open. This group of guys should really be able to put some stress on defenses.

It's a great pick for Sac. With Tyreke being able to penetrate and forces the D to collapse, Jimmer can hit the jumper AND has the instinct to pump and dribble passed a closing defender. If both Tyreke and Jimmer improve their passing vision, then it should free up a lot of dunks for Cousins who should be open from the penetration of Tyreke and ball skills of Jimmer to break down the defense.

I still have a feeling Jimmer and Tyreke will be sharing PG roles which makes the Kings offense more versatile depending on who's on the court with them. Beno wasn't a 3-point shooter and that hurt their ball spread.

Originally posted by Joecool:
I still have a feeling Jimmer and Tyreke will be sharing PG roles which makes the Kings offense more versatile depending on who's on the court with them.

I think this is true. Whether you want to call him the PG or not, Tyreke is gonna have the ball in his hands a lot. This fits in well with Fredette and to a lesser extent Thornton, because both those guys can handle it.

It's going to be a situation where both guards handle the rock in certain situations. And even Salmons or Garcia at the 3-spot can initiate the offense.

We didn't get that pass-first distributing PG, but we added another player who can do it occasionally. That may be all we need.

anyof you guys think maybe Donte or Casspi will be traded now with the additions of Salmons and Honeycut at 3?

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
anyof you guys think maybe Donte or Casspi will be traded now with the additions of Salmons and Honeycut at 3?

I think we definitely have to entertain the idea. IMO Casspi has more trade value but the Kings believe he has the higher upside and might not want to trade him. However, I think he'll be a much easier piece to move and would be able to bring a lot more back in return.

Casspi has talked about wanting to play for a larger market and with the acquisition of Salmons(who Westphal insisted on trading for) and the drafting of Honeycut, it doesn't make sense to keep him(and/or Greene) around. Especially with Garcia in the fold for playing time at the 3 as well. I think Garcia is another candidate to moved as well.

I think a trade for a veteran PG or depth at the 4/5 is definitely high on the Kings priorities right now.

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
anyof you guys think maybe Donte or Casspi will be traded now with the additions of Salmons and Honeycut at 3?

I think we definitely have to entertain the idea. IMO Casspi has more trade value but the Kings believe he has the higher upside and might not want to trade him. However, I think he'll be a much easier piece to move and would be able to bring a lot more back in return.

Casspi has talked about wanting to play for a larger market and with the acquisition of Salmons(who Westphal insisted on trading for) and the drafting of Honeycut, it doesn't make sense to keep him(and/or Greene) around. Especially with Garcia in the fold for playing time at the 3 as well. I think Garcia is another candidate to moved as well.

I think a trade for a veteran PG or depth at the 4/5 is definitely high on the Kings priorities right now.

I don't think we are looking at picking up another guard. Evans, Thornton, and Jimmer are going to be the main 3 guard rotation. Don't think a veteran would want to be the 4th guard (who will see plenty of games without getting off the bench). Main thing, situate logjam at 3 and add some depth down low, especially if we can't resign Dalemberte

guys lets be real about the Jimmer pick. they picked him because most of the people that go to games are white. Sac is about to loose thier team so they needed to draft the guy that can selll the most tickets. Jimmer is not bad but i see him as a guy coming off the bench scoring like 10-15 pts per game.

Originally posted by FreddyG:
guys lets be real about the Jimmer pick. they picked him because most of the people that go to games are white. Sac is about to loose thier team so they needed to draft the guy that can selll the most tickets. Jimmer is not bad but i see him as a guy coming off the bench scoring like 10-15 pts per game.

lol

Originally posted by FreddyG:
guys lets be real about the Jimmer pick. they picked him because most of the people that go to games are white. Sac is about to loose thier team so they needed to draft the guy that can selll the most tickets. Jimmer is not bad but i see him as a guy coming off the bench scoring like 10-15 pts per game.

We got him to be the guy coming off the bench to keep teams honest from deep. Need more consistant 3 pt shooters. That's why we got him.

Originally posted by FreddyG:
guys lets be real about the Jimmer pick. they picked him because most of the people that go to games are white. Sac is about to loose thier team so they needed to draft the guy that can selll the most tickets. Jimmer is not bad but i see him as a guy coming off the bench scoring like 10-15 pts per game.

Originally posted by ninerfan21:

Originally posted by BoiseNiner:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
anyof you guys think maybe Donte or Casspi will be traded now with the additions of Salmons and Honeycut at 3?

I think we definitely have to entertain the idea. IMO Casspi has more trade value but the Kings believe he has the higher upside and might not want to trade him. However, I think he'll be a much easier piece to move and would be able to bring a lot more back in return.

Casspi has talked about wanting to play for a larger market and with the acquisition of Salmons(who Westphal insisted on trading for) and the drafting of Honeycut, it doesn't make sense to keep him(and/or Greene) around. Especially with Garcia in the fold for playing time at the 3 as well. I think Garcia is another candidate to moved as well.

I think a trade for a veteran PG or depth at the 4/5 is definitely high on the Kings priorities right now.

I don't think we are looking at picking up another guard. Evans, Thornton, and Jimmer are going to be the main 3 guard rotation. Don't think a veteran would want to be the 4th guard (who will see plenty of games without getting off the bench). Main thing, situate logjam at 3 and add some depth down low, especially if we can't resign Dalemberte

I only mention a PG because supposedly we're interested in Aaron Brooks. Doesn't make much sense to me but that's what I've been reading about. IMO it's probably just a reporter talking usual BS in regards to rumors because we've had interest in Brooks in the past. Either way, I agree with you. We'll already have plenty of minutes used up in the backcourt with Evans, Fredette, Thornton as well as Garcia and Salmons possibly playing minutes there as well on occasion. Hopefully the rookie Thomas can take Pooh Jeters' roster spot as a guy we can develop in the backcourt.

Dalembert is a must sign. I really liked what I saw from the 3 man rotation of Cousins, Dally and Thompson last year. I don't think Whiteside is ready to contribute much right now so some depth is definitely needed. We have way too many SF's right now and I expect Casspi and/or Greene to be traded this offseason.