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Originally posted by Dino:

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  • crzy
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I forgot to mention this the other day, but Evan Turner looks terrible out there. I watched parts of the Philly/Boston game the other day, and it looks like Doug Collins has given the ball handling responsibilities to Jrue Holiday, and Turner doesn't know what to do with himself. It's gonna be interesting to see how that develops.

Derrick Favors as well.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I forgot to mention this the other day, but Evan Turner looks terrible out there. I watched parts of the Philly/Boston game the other day, and it looks like Doug Collins has given the ball handling responsibilities to Jrue Holiday, and Turner doesn't know what to do with himself. It's gonna be interesting to see how that develops.

Derrick Favors as well.

I haven't seen Favors in the preseason yet, but that doesn't surprise me. He's still pretty raw.

I wasn't a huge Turner guy, but I'm surprised that he doesn't look better than he does. He was a pretty polished player coming out of OSU.
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Posted some info in the Magic thread regarding their plays/playbook. I've been getting into their and other NBA plays in general lately and figured a few of you basketball nuts would as well. It's all over page 5 & 6.
Originally posted by jrg:
Posted some info in the Magic thread regarding their plays/playbook. I've been getting into their and other NBA plays in general lately and figured a few of you basketball nuts would as well. It's all over page 5 & 6.

Awesome, I'll check that out when I have the time.

In other news...

Originally posted by MichaelJordan:
"It's less physical and the rules have changed, obviously," said Jordan, who was promoting NBA 2K11 video game. "Based on these rules, if I had to play with my style of play, I'm pretty sure I would have fouled out or I would have been at the free throw line pretty often and I could have scored 100 points."

I want to pimp slap Arenas so bad. And can Flip Saunders grow a pair and stop letting guys run all over him.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by jrg:
Posted some info in the Magic thread regarding their plays/playbook. I've been getting into their and other NBA plays in general lately and figured a few of you basketball nuts would as well. It's all over page 5 & 6.

Awesome, I'll check that out when I have the time.

In other news...

Originally posted by MichaelJordan:
"It's less physical and the rules have changed, obviously," said Jordan, who was promoting NBA 2K11 video game. "Based on these rules, if I had to play with my style of play, I'm pretty sure I would have fouled out or I would have been at the free throw line pretty often and I could have scored 100 points."


he said that while promoting his game which is all about what would happen if he played in todays game. he is just trying to sell copies man
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by jrg:
Posted some info in the Magic thread regarding their plays/playbook. I've been getting into their and other NBA plays in general lately and figured a few of you basketball nuts would as well. It's all over page 5 & 6.

Awesome, I'll check that out when I have the time.

In other news...

Originally posted by MichaelJordan:
"It's less physical and the rules have changed, obviously," said Jordan, who was promoting NBA 2K11 video game. "Based on these rules, if I had to play with my style of play, I'm pretty sure I would have fouled out or I would have been at the free throw line pretty often and I could have scored 100 points."


he said that while promoting his game which is all about what would happen if he played in todays game. he is just trying to sell copies man

I dunno, that's sounds like the real Jordan. He was probably sporting the Hitler mustache and he probably mentioned how he got revenge on the guy who once beat him at Pong.
Originally posted by dobo:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by jrg:
Posted some info in the Magic thread regarding their plays/playbook. I've been getting into their and other NBA plays in general lately and figured a few of you basketball nuts would as well. It's all over page 5 & 6.

Awesome, I'll check that out when I have the time.

In other news...

Originally posted by MichaelJordan:
"It's less physical and the rules have changed, obviously," said Jordan, who was promoting NBA 2K11 video game. "Based on these rules, if I had to play with my style of play, I'm pretty sure I would have fouled out or I would have been at the free throw line pretty often and I could have scored 100 points."


he said that while promoting his game which is all about what would happen if he played in todays game. he is just trying to sell copies man

I dunno, that's sounds like the real Jordan. He was probably sporting the Hitler mustache and he probably mentioned how he got revenge on the guy who once beat him at Pong.

Yeah. I guarantee you that Jordan thinks that he'd be able to score 100 points in a game, even though he never came within 30 points of that when everyone was scoring a lot more points.

The overblown memory of Jordan is easily my biggest pet peeve when it comes to sports.
I just looked, and MJ got to 60 four times in his career...three of which were overtime games.

But yeah, he'd score 100 today. Why stop there? Why not 120?
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I just looked, and MJ got to 60 four times in his career...three of which were overtime games.

But yeah, he'd score 100 today. Why stop there? Why not 120?

I think his point is that the league's rules favor guards more now than they did before. I don't have the stats, so I can't say whether or not his point is valid.

From what I've seen, the league seems to have moved in a more guard-oriented direction. It's exciting to watch 6'5" - 6'8" athletes run and jump like gazelles. Centers ain't what they used to be, and I can't imagine that has to do with talent alone.

[ Edited by dobo on Oct 15, 2010 at 09:11:06 ]
Jordan tripping he wouldn't drop 100 in today's NBA. But if he said he could score 150 some folks would still go with it.
Originally posted by dobo:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I just looked, and MJ got to 60 four times in his career...three of which were overtime games.

But yeah, he'd score 100 today. Why stop there? Why not 120?

I think his point is that the league's rules favor guards more now than they did before. I don't have the stats, so I can't say whether or not his point is valid.

From what I've seen, the league seems to have moved in a more guard-oriented direction. It's exciting to watch 6'5" - 6'8" athletes run and jump like gazelles. Centers ain't what they used to be, and I can't imagine that has to do with talent alone.

I'd argue that it's moreso a case of post play being considerably more difficult due to the rule changes, rather than those rules benefiting swingmen. Swingmen may be more important now, but I don't think they're more productive. Bernard King, Larry Bird, Purvis Short, Alex English, Dominique Wilkins, Adrian Dantley, Kiki Vandeweghe, Mark Aguirre, Clyde Drexler, Mitch Richmond, and several others were high scoring swingmen during the same time.

He was the best of the bunch in terms of scorers, but he wasn't nearly as anomalous as he's made out to be. Wings don't score more now, it's just that the bigs score less.

[ Edited by LA9erFan on Oct 15, 2010 at 09:39:45 ]
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by dobo:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I just looked, and MJ got to 60 four times in his career...three of which were overtime games.

But yeah, he'd score 100 today. Why stop there? Why not 120?

I think his point is that the league's rules favor guards more now than they did before. I don't have the stats, so I can't say whether or not his point is valid.

From what I've seen, the league seems to have moved in a more guard-oriented direction. It's exciting to watch 6'5" - 6'8" athletes run and jump like gazelles. Centers ain't what they used to be, and I can't imagine that has to do with talent alone.

I'd argue that it's moreso a case of post play being considerably more difficult due to the rule changes, rather than those rules benefiting swingmen. Swingmen may be more important now, but I don't think they're more productive. Bernard King, Larry Bird, Purvis Short, Alex English, Dominique Wilkins, Adrian Dantley, Kiki Vandeweghe, Mark Aguirre, Clyde Drexler, Mitch Richmond, and several others were high scoring swingmen during the same time.

He was the best of the bunch in terms of scorers, but he wasn't nearly as anomalous as he's made out to be. Wings don't score more now, it's just that the bigs score less.

Anything Jordan says has to be understood as the rantings of an egotistical douchebag.
Originally posted by dobo:
Anything Jordan says has to be understood as the rantings of an egotistical douchebag.

True, but a lot of people believe this about MJ. That irritates me, and yes...I know how irrational that is.
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