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***Orlando Magic Offseason Thread***
Jul 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM
- VaBeachNiner
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Of course, the CP3 rumors have come back...
Jul 22, 2010 at 8:14 PM
- StOnEy333
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We signed Barnes, j. And you know how I feel about him. 
Jul 22, 2010 at 8:22 PM
- jrg
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
We signed Barnes, j. And you know how I feel about him.
Kinda sad to see him go..I loved the guys intensity..he is a key loss for the Magic..he brought an edge to the team.
With Barnes AND Artest AND Kobe....
Jul 22, 2010 at 8:41 PM
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Originally posted by jrg:Originally posted by StOnEy333:
We signed Barnes, j. And you know how I feel about him.
Kinda sad to see him go..I loved the guys intensity..he is a key loss for the Magic..he brought an edge to the team.
With Barnes AND Artest AND Kobe....
A valid point, but he will get no more than a golf clap from me, no matter what he does for the Lakers.
Jul 22, 2010 at 9:44 PM
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Just ordered this..
Jul 22, 2010 at 9:48 PM
- StOnEy333
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Hmm. For some reason I don't like that nickname. I sorta feel like it discredits him. 
Jul 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM
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So CP3 wants the Magic over the Knicks now.......hmmm.........
Jul 23, 2010 at 6:56 PM
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
So CP3 wants the Magic over the Knicks now.......hmmm.........
Make it happen Otis!
Jul 23, 2010 at 6:59 PM
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Sources: Paul prefers Magic to Knicks
The New Orleans Hornets have yet to start entertaining trade offers for Chris Paul, but that hasn't stopped the superstar point guard from making exit plans.
The Orlando Magic have emerged as the top team on Paul's list of preferred destinations, replacing the New York Knicks, according to league sources.
While the Knicks are still high on Paul's list, he believes the Magic, with all-star center Dwight Howard, would be a better fit. Paul also realizes Orlando has much more to offer New Orleans in a trade and therefore believes it is a more realistic destination than New York, according to the sources.
Paul will meet with Hornets president Hugh Weber, new general manager Dell Demps and new head coach Monty Williams to discuss the future direction of the club. The Hornets hope to convince Paul to give the new regime a chance, but sources say he is fully expected to present New Orleans with a list of teams he would like to be traded to.
In addition to Orlando and New York, Dallas and Portland are on Paul's list. The New Orleans Times-Picayune reported on Friday that Paul's agent Leon Rose reached out to all four teams this week.
While New Orleans currently has no plans to trade Paul, the club also realizes how problematic it would be to have Williams start his coaching career with a disgruntled star.
That's why the Hornets may indeed decide to trade Paul even though he has two years left on his contract. But New Orleans would not limit itself to the four clubs on Paul's list. Instead, the Hornets would look for the best deal for its franchise, according to league sources.
New Jersey and Charlotte are known to be among the many teams that would make offers for Paul. Some league sources believe New Orleans would insist that Hornets center Emeka Okafor, who has four years and $52 million left on his contract, be included in any deal for Paul.
Orlando is one of several teams that called New Orleans about trading for Paul earlier this summer, but the Hornets refused to consider moving the three-time all-star under former GM Jeff Bower. League executives are now wondering if that stance will change under Demps.
New Orleans has not listened to proposals yet, and most clubs will likely wait until after Monday's meeting to begin making offers. Orlando has not had trade discussions with the Hornets regarding Paul, according to sources.
Paul's desire to play in New York is largely tied to Carmelo Anthony, the Denver Nuggets star. Both players would like to team with new Knick Amare Stoudemire to form a Big Three that could rival Miami's trio of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
But while such a scenario is possible, it will be difficult to pull off. First, Anthony must turn down Denver's three-year, $65 million extension offer, which is something most league insiders don't believe he will do. Then, the Knicks must put together a package for Paul that entices the Hornets without eating up all the future cap space they would use to sign Anthony as a free agent next summer. If the Knicks took back Okafor with Paul, signing Anthony as a free agent in 2011 would be impossible.
Beyond that, sources say New Orleans may be unlikely to send Paul to New York because so many other teams could present better offers.
Orlando, with point guard Jameer Nelson and former All-Star Vince Carter, who only has one year of guaranteed money left on his contract, is one such team. And a pairing of Paul and Howard would unquestionably make the Magic a title contender.
The New Orleans Hornets have yet to start entertaining trade offers for Chris Paul, but that hasn't stopped the superstar point guard from making exit plans.
The Orlando Magic have emerged as the top team on Paul's list of preferred destinations, replacing the New York Knicks, according to league sources.
While the Knicks are still high on Paul's list, he believes the Magic, with all-star center Dwight Howard, would be a better fit. Paul also realizes Orlando has much more to offer New Orleans in a trade and therefore believes it is a more realistic destination than New York, according to the sources.
Paul will meet with Hornets president Hugh Weber, new general manager Dell Demps and new head coach Monty Williams to discuss the future direction of the club. The Hornets hope to convince Paul to give the new regime a chance, but sources say he is fully expected to present New Orleans with a list of teams he would like to be traded to.
In addition to Orlando and New York, Dallas and Portland are on Paul's list. The New Orleans Times-Picayune reported on Friday that Paul's agent Leon Rose reached out to all four teams this week.
While New Orleans currently has no plans to trade Paul, the club also realizes how problematic it would be to have Williams start his coaching career with a disgruntled star.
That's why the Hornets may indeed decide to trade Paul even though he has two years left on his contract. But New Orleans would not limit itself to the four clubs on Paul's list. Instead, the Hornets would look for the best deal for its franchise, according to league sources.
New Jersey and Charlotte are known to be among the many teams that would make offers for Paul. Some league sources believe New Orleans would insist that Hornets center Emeka Okafor, who has four years and $52 million left on his contract, be included in any deal for Paul.
Orlando is one of several teams that called New Orleans about trading for Paul earlier this summer, but the Hornets refused to consider moving the three-time all-star under former GM Jeff Bower. League executives are now wondering if that stance will change under Demps.
New Orleans has not listened to proposals yet, and most clubs will likely wait until after Monday's meeting to begin making offers. Orlando has not had trade discussions with the Hornets regarding Paul, according to sources.
Paul's desire to play in New York is largely tied to Carmelo Anthony, the Denver Nuggets star. Both players would like to team with new Knick Amare Stoudemire to form a Big Three that could rival Miami's trio of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
But while such a scenario is possible, it will be difficult to pull off. First, Anthony must turn down Denver's three-year, $65 million extension offer, which is something most league insiders don't believe he will do. Then, the Knicks must put together a package for Paul that entices the Hornets without eating up all the future cap space they would use to sign Anthony as a free agent next summer. If the Knicks took back Okafor with Paul, signing Anthony as a free agent in 2011 would be impossible.
Beyond that, sources say New Orleans may be unlikely to send Paul to New York because so many other teams could present better offers.
Orlando, with point guard Jameer Nelson and former All-Star Vince Carter, who only has one year of guaranteed money left on his contract, is one such team. And a pairing of Paul and Howard would unquestionably make the Magic a title contender.
Jul 23, 2010 at 7:40 PM
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Originally posted by jrg:Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
So CP3 wants the Magic over the Knicks now.......hmmm.........
Make it happen Otis!
Magic gives up Jameer Nelson and what else?
Jul 23, 2010 at 7:48 PM
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Wait......j.......I thought you said Jameer wouldn't be traded for lebron himself. Now you want to trade him for CP?
Jul 23, 2010 at 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Wait......j.......I thought you said Jameer wouldn't be traded for lebron himself. Now you want to trade him for CP?
Who said anything about trading Jameer?
[ Edited by jrg on Jul 23, 2010 at 10:32 PM ]
Jul 23, 2010 at 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by jrg:Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Wait......j.......I thought you said Jameer wouldn't be traded for lebron himself. Now you want to trade him for CP?
Who said anything about trading Jameer?
So CP is gonna come to Orlando to split time with Jameer?
Jul 23, 2010 at 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:Originally posted by jrg:Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Wait......j.......I thought you said Jameer wouldn't be traded for lebron himself. Now you want to trade him for CP?
Who said anything about trading Jameer?
So CP is gonna come to Orlando to split time with Jameer?
if cp3 is getting traded to orlando jameer is going back guaranteed or the hornets will just hang up the phone
Jul 24, 2010 at 8:00 AM
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Just trying to think of a way that Jameer isn't gonna leave
Honestly though..if we get CP3..VC will be the big piece moving..his 17 million dollar contract expiring next season will be huge for New Orleans.
I've heard trades like Jameer Nelson and Vince Carter for Chris Paul and David West.
That'd leave us w/ this lineup..
Chris Paul
JJ Redick
Rashard Lewis
David West
Dwight Howard
Honestly though..if we get CP3..VC will be the big piece moving..his 17 million dollar contract expiring next season will be huge for New Orleans.
I've heard trades like Jameer Nelson and Vince Carter for Chris Paul and David West.
That'd leave us w/ this lineup..
Chris Paul
JJ Redick
Rashard Lewis
David West
Dwight Howard