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Sources: Matt Holliday to Cardinals

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From MLBrumors.com
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11:16am: ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports that the deal is complete. The A's will contribute $1.5MM to the remainder of Holliday's salary, which leaves the Cards with about $4.5MM.
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soo stoked for Wallace
So you posted this in the Cards thread, and then made a thread about it too?
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
So you posted this in the Cards thread, and then made a thread about it too?

don't forget the A's thread too. Three times the charm!
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
So you posted this in the Cards thread, and then made a thread about it too?

There are other members on the board who aren't A's/Cardinals fans who wouldn't see it if I didn't post this. If you wanna move it, move it. I just figured I'd make a thread for others to see.
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Originally posted by JR80:
soo stoked for Wallace

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Bad deal for the Cards who really rolled the dice here. Unless they win the WS and sign Holiday long term they lose. I cannot believe they gave up their #1 prospect for a guy having a down year and could be there just 2 months.

Personally, I think this is going to trigger the Phillies-Jays deal and have Halliday end up in Philadelphia. If that happens.. Philly is going to be a strong favorite over STL to win the NL pennant even with Holiday and Derosa.
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Bad deal for the Cards who really rolled the dice here. Unless they win the WS and sign Holiday long term they lose. I cannot believe they gave up their #1 prospect for a guy having a down year and could be there just 2 months.

Personally, I think this is going to trigger the Phillies-Jays deal and have Halliday end up in Philadelphia. If that happens.. Philly is going to be a strong favorite over STL to win the NL pennant even with Holiday and Derosa.

1. You think the Cardinals win ONLY if they win the WS and sign him long term?

2. Why wouldn't they sign him in the off season. You have as much reason to think they WILL sign him in the off season as you do to think they won't.

3. Holliday is a National League player who bats .358 in Busch Stadium.

4. Now Philadelphia HAS to match the Cardinals to keep them near the top of the NL. There are a bunch of good teams Dodgers, Cardinals, Phillies, etc. and if they want to stay there..they need to get a deal done.

5. The Cardinals are playing to win now..Wallace was a tough piece to lose, but Holliday coming back to the National League being sandwiched between Pujols & Ludwick is VERY LEGIT for the Cardinals lineup for the near future.

I'm happy with the deal.
Finally!

Wallace should be a staple at 3rd base for a while.
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Originally posted by Jigga:
Finally!

Wallace should be a staple at 3rd base for a while.

well, until he gets really good. Then we'll trade him.
this is a good deal for the cards they needed another bat, but in no way do i think this makes them the team to beat, it hurts me to say this, but the phillies and dodgers are still the best teams in the NL even after this trade
Great trade for the A's. Wallace is a stud.
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Bad deal for the Cards who really rolled the dice here. Unless they win the WS and sign Holiday long term they lose. I cannot believe they gave up their #1 prospect for a guy having a down year and could be there just 2 months.

Personally, I think this is going to trigger the Phillies-Jays deal and have Halliday end up in Philadelphia. If that happens.. Philly is going to be a strong favorite over STL to win the NL pennant even with Holiday and Derosa.

1. You think the Cardinals win ONLY if they win the WS and sign him long term?

2. Why wouldn't they sign him in the off season. You have as much reason to think they WILL sign him in the off season as you do to think they won't.

3. Holliday is a National League player who bats .358 in Busch Stadium.

4. Now Philadelphia HAS to match the Cardinals to keep them near the top of the NL. There are a bunch of good teams Dodgers, Cardinals, Phillies, etc. and if they want to stay there..they need to get a deal done.

5. The Cardinals are playing to win now..Wallace was a tough piece to lose, but Holliday coming back to the National League being sandwiched between Pujols & Ludwick is VERY LEGIT for the Cardinals lineup for the near future.

I'm happy with the deal.

Those are all short term goals in which Holliday will help with. However, i doubt the Cards will be the top suitors for him in FA and long term will lose him and have lost Wallace.
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