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**Official 2009 NBA Draft Thread** (ON RIGHT NOW)

  • crzy
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Originally posted by ninerpride:
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31584

Am I crazy to think this discussion has absolutely 0% chance of happening.


The Kings cannot get Rubio and Griffin.
[ Edited by crzy on Apr 21, 2009 at 5:12 PM ]
Originally posted by ninerpride:
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31584

Am I crazy to think this discussion has absolutely 0% chance of happening.

Yes, I think that would be doubtful. The only way I'd see that happen is if (assuming Sac lands Griffin at #1) they're willing to deal Thompson or Hawes, and even then I question whether WASH or LAC is interested.

Something a little more possible is using the 23rd pick and something else (maybe 31st pick, Nocioni, Thomas' expiring contract) and trying to get in the top 10-12 to land one of the other PG's (Flynn, Curry, T.Evans).
Lost the bet but A's still gonna lose.
Wrong thread.

Sorry...

As for the link to that Kings forum, yeah, no way any team will get multiple high picks.

The only time I can remember it ever happening in any sports was WASH for the NFL back in 00 when they had the 2nd and 3rd pick and drafted Arrington and Samuels.
My favorite sleeper in this draft, Rodrigue Beaubois.
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
My favorite sleeper in this draft, Rodrigue Beaubois.

I remember hearing his name in 2007. Then I totally forgot about him.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
My favorite sleeper in this draft, Rodrigue Beaubois.

I remember hearing his name in 2007. Then I totally forgot about him.

I'm impressed with his ability to get his shot off. Not a great shooter percentage-wise, but as you can see in that video, he's able to shoot "NBA" shots. Having pro talent around him will help in not having to shoot such difficult jumpers.

He has great length too, and could be a presence defensively. Would be a great 2nd Round pick, IMO.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
My favorite sleeper in this draft, Rodrigue Beaubois.

I remember hearing his name in 2007. Then I totally forgot about him.

I'm impressed with his ability to get his shot off. Not a great shooter percentage-wise, but as you can see in that video, he's able to shoot "NBA" shots. Having pro talent around him will help in not having to shoot such difficult jumpers.

He has great length too, and could be a presence defensively. Would be a great 2nd Round pick, IMO.

Yeah. He looks like a Spurs "draft-and-stash" type of player.
crzy...what do you think of Earl Clark and Terrence Williams?
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
crzy...what do you think of Earl Clark and Terrence Williams?

I like them both. Clark obviously has the higher ceiling, but T-Will is much more of a sure thing at the next level.

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Clark's a tweener with huge upside/huge bust potential. Does a lot of things well, but nothing really exceptionally well. Good rebounder, long, coordinated....decent shooter but not a good enough of an outside shooter to be Danny Granger.

I just think Earl Clark is very passive sometimes. Pitino called him out for it too. And with that size, length and talent....being passive is the difference between being Julian Wright and being an All-Star.

Rudy Gay, who has the same size and body-type as Clark, was also criticized for being "passive" in college. But Earl Clark will never be Rudy Gay. You knew right away that Gay would be a 20 point scorer in the NBA, but Clark doesn't have that type of elite offensive ability, he is limited.

I like Al-Farouq Aminu better than Earl Clark. Aminu has a much higher ceiling, is two years younger than Earl Clark, and much farther ahead in terms of his development than Clark was in his freshman year.

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I love a lot of things about Terrence Williams' game. And I think he's under-appreciated. I look at him and I see a guy with NBA size and strength who can play three positions AND defend three positions (1/2/3).

He has four solid years of college experience and is a terrific leader on the court. And he plays with so much swagger and intensity, that there is no WAY he won't be a good player in the NBA.

He has an inconsistent jumper and is a bit inefficient offensively, but that can be worked on.
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Mock Draft #5
Round 1
1. Sacramento - Blake Griffin, PF/C, Oklahoma, Sophomore
2. Washington - Ricky Rubio, PG, DKV Joventut, Spain
3. LA Clippers - Hasheem Thabeet, C, UConn, Junior
4. Oklahoma City - Tyreke Evans, PG/SG, Memphis, Freshman
5. Minnesota - James Harden, SG, Arizona St., Sophomore
6. Memphis - Jordan Hill, PF, Arizona, Junior
7. Golden State - Brandon Jennings, PG, Lottomatica Roma, Italy
8. New York- Jonny Flynn, PG, Syracuse, Sophomore
9. Toronto - Earl Clark, SF, Louisville, Junior
10. Milwaukee - Demar DeRozan, SF, USC, Freshman
11. New Jersey- Gerald Henderson, SG, Duke, Junior
12. Charlotte - DeJuan Blair, PF/C, Pittsburgh, Sophomore
13. Indiana - Jrue Holiday, PG/SG, UCLA, Freshman
14. Phoenix - Ty Lawson, PG, UNC, Junior
15. Detroit - Terrence Williams, SG/SF, Louisville, Senior
16. Chicago- Stephen Curry, PG/SG, Junior, Davidson
17. Philadelphia - James Johnson, SF/PF, Wake Forest, Sophomore
18. Minnesota (from Miami) - Eric Maynor, PG, VCU, Senior
19. Atlanta - Craig Brackins, PF/C, Iowa State, Sophomore
20. Utah - BJ Mullens, C, Ohio State, Freshman
21. New Orleans - Patrick Mills, PG, St.Mary's, Sophomore
22. Dallas - Austin Daye, PF, Gonzaga, Sophomore
23. Sacramento (from Houston) - Chase Budinger, SF, Arizona, Junior
24. Portland - Tyler Hansbrough, PF, UNC, Senior
25. Oklahoma City (from San Antonio) - Sam Young, SF, Pittsburgh, Senior
26. Chicago (from Denver from OKC)- Damion James, SF/PF, Texas, Junior
27. Memphis (from Orlando)- Wayne Ellington, SG, UNC, Junior
28. Minnesota (from Boston) - Omri Casspi, SF, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Israel
29. LA Lakers - Darren Collison, PG, UCLA, Senior
30. Cleveland - Nick Calathes, PG/SG, Florida, Sophomore


Round 2
31. Sacramento - Toney Douglas, PG, Florida St., Senior
32. Washington - Dionte Christmas, SG, Temple, Senior
33. Portland (via LA Clippers)- AJ Price, PG, UConn, Senior
34. Denver (via Oklahoma City) - DaJuan Summers, SF/PF, Georgetown, Junior
35. Detroit (via Minnesota) - Scottie Reynolds, PG, Villanova, Junior
36. Houston (via Memphis) - Michael Washington, PF, Arkansas, Junior
37. San Antonio (via Golden State)- Marcus Thornton, SG, LSU, Senior
38. Portland (via New York)- Jodie Meeks, SG, Kentucky, Junior
39. Detroit (via Toronto)- Jeff Pendergraph, PF, Arizona St., Senior
40. Charlotte (via New Jersey)- Jermaine Taylor, SG, Central Florida, Senior
41. Milwaukee- Sergio Llull, PG/SG, Real Madrid, Spain
42. LA Lakers (via Charlotte)- Derrick Brown, PF, Xavier, Junior
43. Miami (via Indiana)- Tyler Smith, SF, Tennessee, Junior
44. Detroit - Goran Suton, C, Michigan St., Senior
45. Minnesota (via Philadelphia)- Dante Cunningham, PF, Villanova, Senior
46. Cleveland (via Chicago)- Danny Green, SF, UNC, Senior
47. Minnesota (via Miami)- Jonas Jerebko, SF, Angelico Biella, Sweeden
48. Phoenix- Jeff Adrien, PF, UConn, Senior
49. Atlanta- Nando Del Colo, PG/SG, Cholet, France
50. Utah- Emir Preldzic, SF, Fenerbahce Ulker, Slovenia
51. San Antonio (via New Orleans)- Vladimir Dasic, SF/PF, KK Budoncnost Podgorica, Montenegro
52. Indiana (via Dallas)- Taj Gibson, PF, USC, Junior
53. San Antonio (via Houston)- Josh Heytvelt, PF, Gonzaga, Senior
54. Chalotte (via San Antonio)- Alade Aminu, PF, Georgia Tech, Senior
55. Portland (via Denver)- Henk Norel, PF, DKV Joventut, Netherlands
56. Portland- Jon Brockman, PF, Washington, Senior
57. Phoenix (via Orlando)- Jerel McNeal, SG, Marquette, Senior
58. Boston- Rodrique Beaubois, PG, Cholet, France
59. LA Lakers- Milenko Tepic, PG/SG, KK Partizan Belgrade, Serbia
60. Miami (via Cleveland)- Chris Johnson, C, LSU, Senior





Point Guards
1) Ricky Rubio, PG, DKV Joventut, Spain
2) Jonny Flynn, PG, Syracuse, Sophomore
2) Brandon Jennings, PG, Lottomatica Roma, Italy
4) Ty Lawson, PG, UNC, Junior
5) Patrick Mills, PG, St.Mary's, Sophomore
6) Eric Maynor, PG, VCU, Senior
7) Darren Collison, PG, UCLA, Senior

8) Kemba Walker, PG, UConn, Freshman *2010 DRAFT*
9) Toney Douglas, PG, Florida St., Senior
10) Sherron Collins, PG, Kansas, Junior *2010 DRAFT*
11) AJ Price, PG, UConn, Senior
12) Scottie Reynolds, PG, Villanova, Junior
13) Rodrique Beaubois, PG, Cholet, France

14) AJ Abrams, PG, Texas, Senior


Combo (PG/SG) Guards
1) Tyreke Evans, PG/SG, Memphis, Freshman
2) Jrue Holiday, PG/SG, UCLA, Freshman

3) Jeff Teague, PG/SG, Wake Forest, Sophomore *2010 DRAFT*
4) Stephen Curry, PG/SG, Junior, Davidson
5) Nick Calathes, PG/SG, Florida, Sophomore
6) Sergio Llull, PG/SG, Real Madrid, Spain
7) Nando Del Colo, PG/SG, Cholet, France

8) Greivis Vasquez, PG/SG, Maryland, Junior *2010 DRAFT*
9) Milenko Tepic, PG/SG, KK Partizan Belgrade, Serbia
10) Lester Hudson, PG/SG, Tenn. Martin, Senior


Shooting Guards
1) James Harden, SG, Arizona St., Sophomore
2) Gerald Henderson, SG, Duke, Junior

3) Willie Warren, SG, Oklahoma, Freshman *2010 DRAFT*
4) Wayne Ellington, SG, UNC, Junior
5) Marcus Thornton, SG, LSU, Senior
6) Dionte Christmas, SG, Temple, Senior
7) Jodie Meeks, SG, Kentucky, Junior
8) Jermaine Taylor, SG, Central Florida, Senior
9) Jerel McNeal, SG, Marquette, Senior



Small Forwards
1) Al-Farouq Aminu, SF, Wake Forest, Freshman *2010 DRAFT*
2) Demar DeRozan, SF, USC, Freshman
3) Earl Clark, SF, Louisville, Junior

4) Terrence Williams, SG/SF, Louisville, Senior
5) Evan Turner, SG/SF, Ohio State, Sophomore *2010 DRAFT*
6) James Johnson, SF/PF, Wake Forest, Sophomore
7) Sam Young, SF, Pittsburgh, Senior
8) Damion James, SF/PF, Texas, Junior
9) Chase Budinger, SF, Arizona, Junior

10) Kyle Singer, SF, Duke, Sophomore *2010 DRAFT*
11) Omri Casspi, SF, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Israel
12) DaJuan Summers, SF/PF, Georgetown, Junior
13) Tyler Smith, SF, Tennessee, Junior
14) Danny Green, SF, UNC, Senior
15) Jonas Jerebko, SF, Angelico Biella, Sweeden
16) Emir Preldzic, SF, Fenerbahce Ulker, Slovenia
17) Vladimir Dasic, SF/PF, KK Budoncnost Podgorica, Montenegro

18) Stanley Robinson, SF, UConn, Junior *2010 DRAFT*
19) Raymar Morgan, SF, Michigan St., Junior *2010 DRAFT*



Power Forwards
1) Blake Griffin, PF/C, Oklahoma, Sophomore
2) Greg Monroe, PF/C, Georgetown, Freshman *2010 DRAFT*
3) Ed Davis, PF, UNC, Freshman *2010 DRAFT*
4) Gani Lawal, PF, Georgia Tech, Sophomore *2010 DRAFT*
5) Jordan Hill, PF, Arizona, Junior
6) DeJuan Blair, PF/C, Pittsburgh, Sophomore
7) Patrick Patterson, PF, Kentucky, Sophomore *2010 DRAFT*
8) Craig Brackins, PF/C, Iowa State, Sophomore
9) Austin Daye, PF, Gonzaga, Sophomore
10) Larry Sanders, PF, VCU, Sophomore *2010 DRAFT*
11) Samardo Samuels, PF, Louisville, Freshman *2010 DRAFT*
12) Tyler Hansbrough, PF, UNC, Senior
13) Michael Washington, PF, Arkansas, Junior
14) Jeff Pendergraph, PF, Arizona St., Senior

15) JaJuan Johnson, PF, Purdue, Sophomore *2010 DRAFT*
16) Derrick Brown, PF, Xavier, Junior
17) Dante Cunningham, PF, Villanova, Senior
18) Jeff Adrien, PF, UConn, Senior
19) Taj Gibson, PF, USC, Junior

20) Luke Harangody, PF, Notre Dame, Junior *2010 DRAFT*
21) Josh Heytvelt, PF, Gonzaga, Senior
22) Alade Aminu, PF, Georgia Tech, Senior
23) Henk Norel, PF, DKV Joventut, Netherlands
24) Jon Brockman, PF, Washington, Senior



Centers
1) Hasheem Thabeet, C, UConn, Junior
2) Cole Aldrich, C, Kansas, Sophomore *2010 DRAFT*
3) Donatus Motiejunas, C, Zalgiris Kaunas, Lithuania *2010 DRAFT*
4) BJ Mullens, C, Ohio State, Freshman
5) Jerome Jordan, C, Tulsa, Junior *2010 DRAFT*
6) Andrew Ogilvy, C, Vanderbilt, Sophomore *2010 Draft*
7) Goran Suton, C, Michigan St., Senior
8) Chris Johnson, C, LSU, Senior

9) Dexter Pittman, C, Texas, Junior *2010 DRAFT*
10) Giorgi Shermadini, C, Panathinaikos, Greece
[ Edited by crzy on Apr 30, 2009 at 10:33 AM ]
http://www.nbadraft.net/

This mock also has the W's taking Jennings.

Would he fall that far down to 7?

A Jennings-Ellis backcourt though potentially exciting could get killed defensively.
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Originally posted by ninerpride:
Would he fall that far down to 7?

Brandon Jennings could go anywhere from the 4th pick to outside of the lottery.
W's definitely need a legit PG, but you have Flynn as the 2nd best PG over Jennings so why would you think the W's would draft Jennings over Flynn.
Didn't know that the W's didn't have a 2nd round pick.

But POR has 4 and 5 picks total.