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2008-09 San Antonio Spurs Thread

Originally posted by dobophile:
Manu Ginobili has the most attractive expiring contract in the league. A great many teams are interested in landing a great FA in 2010.

Should the Spurs trade Manu?

32, often injured, plays with reckless abandon, average defender, 3rd option (behind 2 excellent players) on offense, value might never be any higher...

...still plays at a high level, quick 1st step, streaky shooter, yet always a threat
Originally posted by Jigga:
Originally posted by dobophile:
Manu Ginobili has the most attractive expiring contract in the league. A great many teams are interested in landing a great FA in 2010.

Should the Spurs trade Manu?

32, often injured, plays with reckless abandon, average defender, 3rd option (behind 2 excellent players) on offense, value might never be any higher...

...still plays at a high level, quick 1st step, streaky shooter, yet always a threat

EXPIRING CONTRACT, at $10.75 million next year.

When healthy, a top 10 player in the league. Manu has never ranked higher than 63rd on the list of highest paid NBA players. (Something like that, anyway.)

His defense is definitely above average.

2nd offensive option on the Spurs. 1st option in clutch situations.

Ultimate winner. Olympic gold? Check. NBA titles? Check, check, check. Euroleague title? Check.

Manu's injuries have rendered his trade value to its lowest point in 5 years. So the Spurs won't think of trading him . . . yet. I bet the phone starts ringing like crazy next season if Manu is healthy.
[ Edited by dobophile on May 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM ]
Originally posted by dobophile:
Originally posted by Jigga:
Originally posted by dobophile:
Manu Ginobili has the most attractive expiring contract in the league. A great many teams are interested in landing a great FA in 2010.

Should the Spurs trade Manu?

32, often injured, plays with reckless abandon, average defender, 3rd option (behind 2 excellent players) on offense, value might never be any higher...

...still plays at a high level, quick 1st step, streaky shooter, yet always a threat

EXPIRING CONTRACT, at $10.75 million next year.

When healthy, a top 10 player in the league. Manu has never ranked higher than 63rd on the list of highest paid NBA players. (Something like that, anyway.)

His defense is definitely above average.

2nd offensive option on the Spurs. 1st option in clutch situations.

Ultimate winner. Olympic gold? Check. NBA titles? Check, check, check. Euroleague title? Check.

Manu's injuries have rendered his trade value to its lowest point in 5 years. So the Spurs won't think of trading him . . . yet. I bet the phone starts ringing like crazy next season if Manu is healthy.

There are a lot of really dumb NBA GM's. I couldn't stomach trading him, but if it's a great deal...ugh. I don't even want to talk about it.
Manu is a very crafty player and because of that craftiness, he will be an effective player for some time. Look at how long the Spurs made Finley and Horry last. Manu is still a threat from the 3 and can always be used as a shooter.

I don't think the Spurs trade him. The Spurs got younger but need to find a front court presence or garbage man that can help.
San Antpwndio
Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
San Antpwndio

Bill Simmons thinks the Spurs should trade Parker for Foye and the 6th pick. My initial reaction was "heck no!"

I don't know. Maybe trading Parker is a good idea. His value is high, he's not the heart and soul of the team, and the Spurs haven't had a true point guard in a long time.

It's Duncan's team. He is nearly untradeable. Manu is Mr. Intangible, a crafty veteran who makes his teammates better and creates havoc for opposing defenses. He's the x factor of the team. Parker is the most expendable, and his value is really high.
Originally posted by dobophile:
Bill Simmons thinks the Spurs should trade Parker for Foye and the 6th pick. My initial reaction was "heck no!"

I don't know. Maybe trading Parker is a good idea. His value is high, he's not the heart and soul of the team, and the Spurs haven't had a true point guard in a long time.

It's Duncan's team. He is nearly untradeable. Manu is Mr. Intangible, a crafty veteran who makes his teammates better and creates havoc for opposing defenses. He's the x factor of the team. Parker is the most expendable, and his value is really high.

That's an interesting trade. It won't ever happen, but it's interesting. I think it's more likely that they'll start adding players that complement Parker. Plus, Foye isn't all that much younger than Parker and probably won't ever be as good.
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by dobophile:
Bill Simmons thinks the Spurs should trade Parker for Foye and the 6th pick. My initial reaction was "heck no!"

I don't know. Maybe trading Parker is a good idea. His value is high, he's not the heart and soul of the team, and the Spurs haven't had a true point guard in a long time.

It's Duncan's team. He is nearly untradeable. Manu is Mr. Intangible, a crafty veteran who makes his teammates better and creates havoc for opposing defenses. He's the x factor of the team. Parker is the most expendable, and his value is really high.

That's an interesting trade. It won't ever happen, but it's interesting. I think it's more likely that they'll start adding players that complement Parker. Plus, Foye isn't all that much younger than Parker and probably won't ever be as good.

And he isn't a true PG either. That's a horrible trade for San Antonio.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by dobophile:
Bill Simmons thinks the Spurs should trade Parker for Foye and the 6th pick. My initial reaction was "heck no!"

I don't know. Maybe trading Parker is a good idea. His value is high, he's not the heart and soul of the team, and the Spurs haven't had a true point guard in a long time.

It's Duncan's team. He is nearly untradeable. Manu is Mr. Intangible, a crafty veteran who makes his teammates better and creates havoc for opposing defenses. He's the x factor of the team. Parker is the most expendable, and his value is really high.

That's an interesting trade. It won't ever happen, but it's interesting. I think it's more likely that they'll start adding players that complement Parker. Plus, Foye isn't all that much younger than Parker and probably won't ever be as good.

And he isn't a true PG either. That's a horrible trade for San Antonio.

Horrible trade. Parker has shown he can develop as a PG and who's to say he can't develop as a better passer. Dude is still very young.
I didn't mean to imply that Foye is a true PG or better than Parker. I think Simmons' proposed trade is a bad idea.

I was commenting more on the idea of trading Parker. Try to get CP3? Getting a true PG out of it would be nice.

I still think the best course of action is scrapping the 2010 plan and trading all expiring contracts, except maybe Manu. But that's just me.
The Spurs have reportedly offered Yiannis Bourousis a 3 year contract worth between 10.5 and 12 million.

PF/C, 7'1'', 280 lbs.

Originally posted by dobophile:
The Spurs have reportedly offered Yiannis Bourousis a 3 year contract worth between 10.5 and 12 million.

PF/C, 7'1'', 280 lbs.


From DraftExpress:

Quote:
Bouroussis remains one of the most productive big men in European basketball on a per-minute basis, he’s averaging 23 points and 13 rebounds per-40 pace adjusted on 59% shooting from the field. He’s not particularly athletic, but has a massive frame which he uses to draw fouls at a terrific rate, and is a threat to score with his back to the basket, shooting jumpers from outside, or finishing pick and roll plays in the lane thanks to his excellent hands. He’s also an excellent rebounder, particularly on the offensive end. Talk out of Greece is that he’s interested in exploring his NBA options this summer, and as we’ve written on a few occasions in the past, he could be a very interesting free agent target for certain teams. We’ll be taking an in-depth look at him this weekend, and may try to pick his brain as well.

I don't know anything about the guy, but he's also a former swimmer. I hope he doesn't suck.
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by dobophile:
The Spurs have reportedly offered Yiannis Bourousis a 3 year contract worth between 10.5 and 12 million.

PF/C, 7'1'', 280 lbs.


From DraftExpress:

Quote:
Bouroussis remains one of the most productive big men in European basketball on a per-minute basis, he’s averaging 23 points and 13 rebounds per-40 pace adjusted on 59% shooting from the field. He’s not particularly athletic, but has a massive frame which he uses to draw fouls at a terrific rate, and is a threat to score with his back to the basket, shooting jumpers from outside, or finishing pick and roll plays in the lane thanks to his excellent hands. He’s also an excellent rebounder, particularly on the offensive end. Talk out of Greece is that he’s interested in exploring his NBA options this summer, and as we’ve written on a few occasions in the past, he could be a very interesting free agent target for certain teams. We’ll be taking an in-depth look at him this weekend, and may try to pick his brain as well.

I don't know anything about the guy, but he's also a former swimmer. I hope he doesn't suck.

You know who else is a former swimmer, don't you?

Yep, you guessed it. Duncan.


Yep.


Good ol' Duncan Goodhew
Most recent Ginobili trade rumor.

From http://www.truthaboutit.net/tag/gerald-wallace


Three team deal: San Antonio, Charlotte, Washington

Bobcats Get: Nick Young, Antawn Jamison, Etan Thomas
Bobcats Give: Gerald Wallace, Raja Bell, Nazr Mohammed

Spurs Get: Gerald Wallace, Andray Blatche, Mike James, the 5th Pick
Spurs Give: Manu Ginobili, Fabricio Oberto, Bruce Bowen

Wizards Get: Manu Ginobili, Fabricio Oberto, Bruce Bowen, Raja Bell, Nazr Mohammed
Wizards Give: Nick Young, Antawn Jamison, Etan Thomas, Andray Blatche, Mike James, the 5th Pick