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Mangini's Mess

Originally posted by SofaKing:
I'm not concerned with Mangini. There have been stories about how he alienates the locker room, but it won't matter here. Harbaugh is in complete control.

It also appears that Mangini's interaction is primarily with the coaches. He consults with them, the coaches take his expertise into account when forming their gameplans, and they coach the players.

I don't see Mangini having close contact with the players. That's what the coordinators and positional coaches are for.


You mean this expertise?

"Football is like a WAR!" "And in war it's kill or be killed."
"I once brought a young man in to inspire my team, before a huge preseason game. His friends were killed by a bomb in Iraq. I told him we would win the game for him and his friends. He left the room, and I told my team if we don't follow through with our commitment, with our promise to him, his friends would have died in vain."
Originally posted by BrianGO:
You mean this expertise?

"Football is like a WAR!" "And in war it's kill or be killed."
"I once brought a young man in to inspire my team, before a huge preseason game. His friends were killed by a bomb in Iraq. I told him we would win the game for him and his friends. He left the room, and I told my team if we don't follow through with our commitment, with our promise to him, his friends would have died in vain."

I'm just talking about what he brings to the table from an X's and O's standpoint. His leadership and motivational skills are obviously lacking. And that story about manipulating a war vet into equating football with what he had experienced in Iraq is sickening. Mangini will just stick with gameplan strategy, and leave player management up to Harbaugh and his staff.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
You mean this expertise?

"Football is like a WAR!" "And in war it's kill or be killed."
"I once brought a young man in to inspire my team, before a huge preseason game. His friends were killed by a bomb in Iraq. I told him we would win the game for him and his friends. He left the room, and I told my team if we don't follow through with our commitment, with our promise to him, his friends would have died in vain."

I'm just talking about what he brings to the table from an X's and O's standpoint. His leadership and motivational skills are obviously lacking. And that story about manipulating a war vet into equating football with what he had experienced in Iraq is sickening. Mangini will just stick with gameplan strategy, and leave player management up to Harbaugh and his staff.


I understand what you're saying, and I am not disagreeing with the logic, but this goes WAY beyond "motivational skills".

It's like if Charles Manson was a football genius, and we consulted with him to help our team. NO THANKS. I don't want a person of that CALIBER around the building at all.
Originally posted by xcfan:
any gm that admires mangini as a leader of men is a gm who learned his craft from how-to books.
top coaches and gm's need charisma and "it" factor. mangini lacks both; and an admiring gm would lack both, also.

In a nutshell.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:
word on the street that Trent and Jim are having a power struggle and Trent brought in Mangini to take over when Jim leaves.


hey dont shoot the messenger just something I heard from my sources deep within the organization.

well this confirms my first thought when mangini was hired,, I said at the time,, we just hired the replacement for JH


I read that in Tommy Lee Jones' voice
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:
word on the street that Trent and Jim are having a power struggle and Trent brought in Mangini to take over when Jim leaves.


hey dont shoot the messenger just something I heard from my sources deep within the organization.

well this confirms my first thought when mangini was hired,, I said at the time,, we just hired the replacement for JH


This couldn't be further from the truth... Baalkee and Harbaugh are friends as well as colleagues and work out and play racket ball together regularly, so where's the power struggle? Who spots, who hits the racket ball first? You guys are funny and WRONG!
Word on the street...what does that mean...a source deep within the organization...pa-leez, people, make this insanity stop!! There are potentially many reasons they hired Mangini, replacing Harbaugh is the least likely of them. Replacing either Fangio or Roman makes a lot more sense. Fangio has been coaching a long time...he may retire at some point. Roman's arguably a fairly hot coordinator who could be in line for a HC job soon. Mangini's a smart guy...I'm sure he learned a lot from his HC stint. He's a guy who probably got promoted a few years before he was emotionally ready for it. Be that as it may, I'm happy he's on our staff. Tonight's first preseason game came just in time to stop this off-season insanity...
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Originally posted by BrianGO:
I understand what you're saying, and I am not disagreeing with the logic, but this goes WAY beyond "motivational skills".

It's like if Charles Manson was a football genius, and we consulted with him to help our team. NO THANKS. I don't want a person of that CALIBER around the building at all.
i bet even at his age, when he gets ramped up, he could give a helluva pre game pep talk to the team about us vs them
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Originally posted by susweel:
word on the street that Trent and Jim are having a power struggle and Trent brought in Mangini to take over when Jim leaves.


hey dont shoot the messenger just something I heard from my sources deep within the organization.

My aunts friends husband works for the 49ers, and she told me this as well. F**king great.

I know man, my friend's mom's cousin's cousin's nephew's daughter's duck was at practice today and said she heard the same.

Your story checks out

LMAO
This thread is so pointless, I
NO THANKS. Can't be true. Haven't the 49ers suffered enough with wanna-be head coaches? Erickson, Nolan, Singletary, the awful years. I admit it, I drank the Kool-Aid and bought into Nolan (then again, after Erickson, anyone would have sounded good), and then bought into Singletary. Please, no Mangini as a head coach. Finally built a team where players actually WANT to be here. They could be the patriots of the 90's, and come away with a few more SB rings.
Originally posted by Empire49:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Originally posted by susweel:
word on the street that Trent and Jim are having a power struggle and Trent brought in Mangini to take over when Jim leaves.


hey dont shoot the messenger just something I heard from my sources deep within the organization.

My aunts friends husband works for the 49ers, and she told me this as well. F**king great.

I know man, my friend's mom's cousin's cousin's nephew's daughter's duck was at practice today and said she heard the same.

Your story checks out

LMAO

F***ing GOLD!
Originally posted by Kronos2560:
Originally posted by Empire49:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by darkknight49:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Originally posted by susweel:
word on the street that Trent and Jim are having a power struggle and Trent brought in Mangini to take over when Jim leaves.


hey dont shoot the messenger just something I heard from my sources deep within the organization.

My aunts friends husband works for the 49ers, and she told me this as well. F**king great.

I know man, my friend's mom's cousin's cousin's nephew's daughter's duck was at practice today and said she heard the same.

Your story checks out

LMAO

F***ing GOLD!

they should chase around a rabbit so they can get used to russell wilsons little ass running for his life and making them look stupid this year.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
I understand what you're saying, and I am not disagreeing with the logic, but this goes WAY beyond "motivational skills".

It's like if Charles Manson was a football genius, and we consulted with him to help our team. NO THANKS. I don't want a person of that CALIBER around the building at all.
i bet even at his age, when he gets ramped up, he could give a helluva pre game pep talk to the team about us vs them

True story, my mom dated him before he went to LA and did all that crazy stuff...the running joke in my family is I am "Charlie's boy"
After reading that I'm both sympathetic to Jackson's point AND think he's kind of a b***h.