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REPORT.... woodson wants to play for niners and is lowering demands

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Fine. Bring him in let him compete. Great to have a vet that has played the position at both a HOF and championship level

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Originally posted by pdizo916:
but we have no monies to sign him. We may have to cut someone to afford him


i think we will extend boldin to cut his salary for this season.
I hope we don't sign his old a** rather let a young guy or a rookie get tha playing time ....
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Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Fine. Bring him in let him compete. Great to have a vet that has played the position at both a HOF and championship level

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that would be fine if you were talking about the charles of four years ago or ten years ago but you are not. two rookies and what we already have is more than enough to deal with this position without spending money we do not have to bring in some washed up old guy who can not play special teams
Originally posted by cciowa:
that would be fine if you were talking about the charles of four years ago or ten years ago but you are not. two rookies and what we already have is more than enough to deal with this position without spending money we do not have to bring in some washed up old guy who can not play special teams

Although it does seem to be the teams mo to sign players that have to be able to play special teams as well, Moss didnt play special teams and was just as washed up as Woodson.
Woodsen is a savvy player who has played the position a short time. I'd rather see some young stud come in and start. The safety position is so deep the 49ers have a number of choices to solidify the position for years to come. How many 37 year olds are playing in the NFL today excluding kickers? Pass.
Sign him and have him sub in for Whitner on passing downs. Draft a rookie FS to start. Done.
Originally posted by cciowa:
that would be fine if you were talking about the charles of four years ago or ten years ago but you are not. two rookies and what we already have is more than enough to deal with this position without spending money we do not have to bring in some washed up old guy who can not play special teams

No, I didn't say give him a guaranteed contract. I was insinuating the incentive-laden compete for your roster spot deal. Put him out there and if he makes the final cut good for us, if not he can sit on the couch. His know how and vet savvy to play the position, knowledge of NFL personnel and systems, etc, etc, etc just might allow him to react, diagnose and play faster than Dahl and/or a rookie. If this is not the case, I am sure we cut our losses. I agree with you that this is not the 30yo Woodson but the 36yo. I see nothing wrong with bringing him to camp to compete for a spot if they don't find what they need in the draft
Give it up, Woodson. Retire and join the Niners coaching staff, maybe as an Assistant Secondary Coach, if such a position exists.
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Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by cciowa:
that would be fine if you were talking about the charles of four years ago or ten years ago but you are not. two rookies and what we already have is more than enough to deal with this position without spending money we do not have to bring in some washed up old guy who can not play special teams

Although it does seem to be the teams mo to sign players that have to be able to play special teams as well, Moss didnt play special teams and was just as washed up as Woodson.
good point. i do wonder though after the moss thing went south in the super bowl and the ginn thing went south last year, if the niners are done signing one trick pony type of guys and from now on, they have to be able to multi task in order to make the team??
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by cciowa:
that would be fine if you were talking about the charles of four years ago or ten years ago but you are not. two rookies and what we already have is more than enough to deal with this position without spending money we do not have to bring in some washed up old guy who can not play special teams

No, I didn't say give him a guaranteed contract. I was insinuating the incentive-laden compete for your roster spot deal. Put him out there and if he makes the final cut good for us, if not he can sit on the couch. His know how and vet savvy to play the position, knowledge of NFL personnel and systems, etc, etc, etc just might allow him to react, diagnose and play faster than Dahl and/or a rookie. If this is not the case, I am sure we cut our losses. I agree with you that this is not the 30yo Woodson but the 36yo. I see nothing wrong with bringing him to camp to compete for a spot if they don't find what they need in the draft
well, maybe I still just can not see how we could sign anyone else in terms of dollars. i will meet you halfway and say if we sign him, it will be in july when we have a bit more clear picture of the team
I'd rather start 36 year old Woodson over Craig Dahl anyday. There is no question who the more talented, instinctive player is. The only question is durability and salary. That's it.
Originally posted by cciowa:
well, maybe I still just can not see how we could sign anyone else in terms of dollars. i will meet you halfway and say if we sign him, it will be in july when we have a bit more clear picture of the team

True. I would however be pleased if we could find a better solution next week
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by cciowa:
well, maybe I still just can not see how we could sign anyone else in terms of dollars. i will meet you halfway and say if we sign him, it will be in july when we have a bit more clear picture of the team

True. I would however be pleased if we could find a better solution next week
me to. i am wrong all the time but i just feel if we get a hot shot guy in round one or two and maybe a sleeper in four or five that and what we already have would take care of that hole?
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
I'd rather start 36 year old Woodson over Craig Dahl anyday. There is no question who the more talented, instinctive player is. The only question is durability and salary. That's it.

i would rather start a rookie over both of both guys but i am really ok with dahl being on the team for a decent back up to both spots and very good special teams.i just wish charles was 33 or even 34.. soon to be 37 and coming off injury and seeing him abused in the playoffs makes me back off from him. Now i know our offense and ck when they are rolling can make alot of people look bad and i do not blame charles for wanting to play for us so he does not have to face our offense anymore