Article: Are the San Francisco 49es Full of Themselves?

Tough to argue w/Success.

Trent seems to be on top of it.

If the niners are winning.... free agents will be interested. whats wrong with playing hardball and building through the draft like the packers and steelers do?

Yeah, while I have liked most of the moves Trent and the front office have made, I've stated that we need to watch out for the "take it or leave it attitude" they take with players (esp. our own)

What has worked in their favor so far with our own has been the fact that we stunk for so long and our own players didn't have any solid ground to stand on. But with winning comes a different set of issues. Teams now look at our players as somebody they covet and will go to great lengths to sign some of them.

Building a quality team is very difficult but once your at the top it is just as difficult to keep it together. If we keep taking this "our way or the highway" approach, we could find ourselves losing way too many of our quality guys. Gotta give respect to get it and NFL players really take this to heart.

49ers are doing it right. They won't overpay, that is great. They have taken care of their own, who earned their contracts.
It is a business, and it goes both ways.
The 49ers are looking to continue and improve success.
Some players understand that, and will work with the team to get what they have earned, but not hamstring the team (Bowman).
Others will take the payday with little chance of team success (Goldson & Bucs).

My take is that if our own player hits FA, we don't value that player much. Most of they guys we keep are extended before they hit FA.

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
49ers are doing it right. They won't overpay, that is great. They have taken care of their own, who earned their contracts.
It is a business, and it goes both ways.
The 49ers are looking to continue and improve success.
Some players understand that, and will work with the team to get what they have earned, but not hamstring the team (Bowman).
Others will take the payday with little chance of team success (Goldson & Bucs).

i think they might be waiting for a last minute cuts.

some teams might be holding on to players till the last minute and let other teams spend money until they cant really spend anymore

This article reads as if it were written by a dyslexic 13 year old loaded up on Reese's peanut butter cups and cocaine.

Originally posted by rk1642:
Yeah, while I have liked most of the moves Trent and the front office have made, I've stated that we need to watch out for the "take it or leave it attitude" they take with players (esp. our own)

What has worked in their favor so far with our own has been the fact that we stunk for so long and our own players didn't have any solid ground to stand on. But with winning comes a different set of issues. Teams now look at our players as somebody they covet and will go to great lengths to sign some of them.

Building a quality team is very difficult but once your at the top it is just as difficult to keep it together. If we keep taking this "our way or the highway" approach, we could find ourselves losing way too many of our quality guys. Gotta give respect to get it and NFL players really take this to heart.

We reward our players, they know it... Our approach is more of a "Show me what you can do for us, then we'll pay up" attitude. Its a smart move so we dont get burned by guys like Randy Moss and Brandon Jacobs.

Originally posted by rk1642:

Yeah, while I have liked most of the moves Trent and the front office have made, I've stated that we need to watch out for the "take it or leave it attitude" they take with players (esp. our own)

What has worked in their favor so far with our own has been the fact that we stunk for so long and our own players didn't have any solid ground to stand on. But with winning comes a different set of issues. Teams now look at our players as somebody they covet and will go to great lengths to sign some of them.

Building a quality team is very difficult but once your at the top it is just as difficult to keep it together. If we keep taking this "our way or the highway" approach, we could find ourselves losing way too many of our quality guys. Gotta give respect to get it and NFL players really take this to heart.

Point taken. I really don't see our negotiating tactics as being a potential problem though. For some players, you have to take a hard line stance. It's not like we're cheap. We had no problem paying V. Davis, Willis, Bowman, Brooks, and others top dollar to keep them here. In Goldson's case, there just wasn't room for another big contract. Not with many big extensions coming up in the near future.

edraft?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

This article reads as if it were written by a dyslexic 13 year old loaded up on Reese's peanut butter cups and cocaine.

Lol. I think I may try that.

"That's not the way to endure yourself to new players"

Yes. Not the way to endure yourself indeed.

Now, if we want to endear ourselves to potential free agents... that's a whole other story.

This article presents the writers own abstract theories that isn't backed with any factual precedent. He suggests the hardline stance in evaluating talent at a certain cap price will put off top free agents from wanting to come there but then says that this is similar to the mindset of the patriots. Seems like the Patriots have done ok, in fact what has failed about this model for them? He finishes off the article by lamenting all the draft picks the Niners have and that he wouldnt' "bank against them" filling the holes. How does this make SF "full of themselves"? This article reeks of bias.

Originally posted by pd24:

My take is that if our own player hits FA, we don't value that player much. Most of they guys we keep are extended before they hit FA.

Or, we just feel they're too expensive.