49ers interested in trading for Revis (link provided)

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Unlike most here, I'm definitely in favor of trading a 2nd or 3rd for a 1y rental of Revis. Not sure if he's our Deion of 94, but he could put us over the top nonetheless.

I think we need to be in win now mode...

If that's all he costs, I agree. I guess it's just hard for me to imagine that this is all he would cost.

Could Carlos Rogers play safety? He is good in run support and covers better than Goldson. (sort of)

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Unlike most here, I'm definitely in favor of trading a 2nd or 3rd for a 1y rental of Revis. Not sure if he's our Deion of 94, but he could put us over the top nonetheless.

I think we need to be in win now mode...

The one year rental is OK in theory, but there are too many problems with it.

1) I've heard that Revis doesn't want to be a one year rental. He wants a big contract, wherever he finds it. He's looking for bling, not a ring.
2) Revis is coming off a major injury, an injury where there is ZERO guarantee that he will be the same player, especially within the next season. Adrian Peterson doesn't guarantee anything about Revis.
3) Revis, and the whole team will know that he is a one-year "rental", and that might create some odd team chemistry at best, while hurting team chemistry at worst.
4) Historically, CB's don't bring championships, unless their name is Deion Sanders (who was a once-in-a-life-time talent, which Revis is not).

Nooo!!!!! I don't want Revis!!!

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Unlike most here, I'm definitely in favor of trading a 2nd or 3rd for a 1y rental of Revis. Not sure if he's our Deion of 94, but he could put us over the top nonetheless.

I think we need to be in win now mode...

Agreed.

Everyone seems to be echoing "build for the future" through the draft, but the future is NOW. This team is on par with the dquads of the early 90s. Teams that were on the cusp of winning it all. We were a few "Flacco throws it up for grabs" plays away from a SB, and a guy like Revis can help shutdown teams that have great QBs and WRs.

Im willing to give up a couple draft picks just to see how it all plays out. The good thing here is that we're not commited to him, so this is not a Nate Clements type deal. Trade for him and go for the ring. If it works, great. We can worry about signing him/ letting him go next offseason. But at least we'll have a ring.

If it doesnt work, so what ? It was a one year risk and it didnt pan out. We let him go.

I just dont see the downside in all this. Especially since it seems now that Goldson is expendable as he's expected to hit FA.

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Give em a 6th and next year's 7th. Not that we'll need em anyway.

I can live with this.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/revis-49ers-conflicting-reports

"Just one day later, those people paid to know things went public with conflicting reports.

One report, citing "a team source," said the 49ers' interest in Revis is ".001 on a scale of 1-10."

Another report, coming from New York and citing "sources," indicates the 49ers are "interested in trading for Revis sooner rather than later."

The two reports were published within 12 hours of each other."


Has anyone addressed or talked about this second report that is bolded? I just noticed it.

I think they are waiting till the 12th getting the picks from the chiefs and then will trade for Revis.....there is so many stories I have a hard time thinking there is no truth to the rumors!
I really believe he would be awesome!

Originally posted by ezekiel40:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/revis-49ers-conflicting-reports

"Just one day later, those people paid to know things went public with conflicting reports.

One report, citing "a team source," said the 49ers' interest in Revis is ".001 on a scale of 1-10."

Another report, coming from New York and citing "sources," indicates the 49ers are "interested in trading for Revis sooner rather than later."

The two reports were published within 12 hours of each other."


Has anyone addressed or talked about this second report that is bolded? I just noticed it.

Harnaugh/Baalke did not let anyone know they were interested in Manning until they flew in to see him. I think we go after Revis hard, especially since we have a coach that is willing to take ALL the risks to win the big one (going after Manning / pulling the pluf on an efficient Alex).

Revis is ours !

Funny that reports coming out of New York say we want to trade for Revis and 12 hours later reports from the West Coast say no interest.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
FWIW . . .

Appearing on NFL Live Wednesday, ESPN's Ed Werder predicted that the Jets will not get a first-round pick for Darrelle Revis.

"I think it's unlikely that the Jets can get a No. 1 pick," said Werder. "I think a lot of teams might consider giving up a (second-round pick) or less. The Jets are dealing from a position of obvious weakness. Two reasons: He's coming off ACL surgery in the final year of his contract. (And) his contract demands really have potential suitors worried the most. Teams know that if they wait a year, he'll become a free agent. They could get him for nothing." In addition to the 49ers and Falcons, Werder mentioned the Bucs and Lions as potential Revis suitors.

This. Everyone know NY has to get rid him. That's why Atl, Det and TB have suddenly come into the fray. They're trying to drive the market up. I'd give our 2nd rd pick for him though.

Originally posted by DVDA:
Either your reading skills are lacking or you're too busy ignoring the rest of the post because you only see what you want to see. When he leaves the 49ers after one year the 49ers get a comp. pick for him. That means they would get the best corner in football in a contract year and they get a pick in the next draft. To simplify this for you:

49ers get:
Revis
2014 comp pick in 2nd or 3rd round

49ers lose:
2013 2nd or 3rd round pick
2013 late round picks

Now does this make sense to you?

My reading skills are just fine, your comprehension of how compensatory picks work apparently isn't though. There's no such thing as a 2nd round compensatory pick. Best you can do is a late 3rd rounder, and there's absolutely zero guarantee that you get a compensatory pick since it can be affected by signings of additional free agents....etc, there's also only a limited amount of compensatory picks awarded each year.


So no, if the 49ers give up a 2nd rounder in 2013, so they can have him come in, be largely unproductive while still recovering from his injury, and then see him walk, only to hopefully receive a late 3rd rounder in 2015...to me that was an absolute waste of a good pick.


Also this talk about "the best cornerback in football" is highly presumptive. There's zero guarantee he's the same player he was after tearing his ACL. A RB can get by after a torn ACl far more easier than a cornerback who has to rely on their lateral movement a lot, doesn't know where they are going as they are shadowing the receiver, depends heavily on their ability to change direction on a dime, he could come to the 49ers and be an absolute bust for a whole season and then leave.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
My reading skills are just fine, your comprehension of how compensatory picks work apparently isn't though. There's no such thing as a 2nd round compensatory pick. Best you can do is a late 3rd rounder, and there's absolutely zero guarantee that you get a compensatory pick since it can be affected by signings of additional free agents....etc, there's also only a limited amount of compensatory picks awarded each year.


So no, if the 49ers give up a 2nd rounder in 2013, so they can have him come in, be largely unproductive while still recovering from his injury, and then see him walk, only to hopefully receive a late 3rd rounder in 2015...to me that was an absolute waste of a good pick.


Also this talk about "the best cornerback in football" is highly presumptive. There's zero guarantee he's the same player he was after tearing his ACL. A RB can get by after a torn ACl far more easier than a cornerback who has to rely on their lateral movement a lot, doesn't know where they are going as they are shadowing the receiver, depends heavily on their ability to change direction on a dime, he could come to the 49ers and be an absolute bust for a whole season and then leave.

i understand how the comp picks work.the niners avoid making signings that cancel out comp picks. also, revis will get a contract that pretty much puts him in 3rd round territory, and if he doesn't i would suspect the niners will resign him.

what if revis comes in at 2009-2010 form? that is a steal for a 2nd and $6mil with the chance of a 3rd comp pick. and the ACL thing does not worry me long term anymore, at all. even if he struggles early on and is on IR, only to come in week 8 pretty healthy and get solid in time for the playoffs.




here is my question if the niners give up their 2nd this year and get a 2015 3rd round pick with revis playing at an all pro level weeks 13-22, would you take that?

how about if the niners this year trade up into the 2nd and 3rd round. and have 2(2nds), 3 (3rds), 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th? and pick up a 1st next year?

Originally posted by jdt84_2:
i understand how the comp picks work.the niners avoid making signings that cancel out comp picks. also, revis will get a contract that pretty much puts him in 3rd round territory, and if he doesn't i would suspect the niners will resign him.

what if revis comes in at 2009-2010 form? that is a steal for a 2nd and $6mil with the chance of a 3rd comp pick. and the ACL thing does not worry me long term anymore, at all. even if he struggles early on and is on IR, only to come in week 8 pretty healthy and get solid in time for the playoffs.




here is my question if the niners give up their 2nd this year and get a 2015 3rd round pick with revis playing at an all pro level weeks 13-22, would you take that?

how about if the niners this year trade up into the 2nd and 3rd round. and have 2(2nds), 3 (3rds), 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th? and pick up a 1st next year?

You can't just discard the guy coming off an injury. As much as you claim that he'll be prime 2009 Revis...4 years later, after a torn ACL, I counter with, what happens if he's unproductive, struggles, now you're paying him a bunch of money, you gave up a pretty good draft pick that could have turned out to be a starter for someone else...and you're really no further along in the CB regard than you were last season.

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