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Suggestion: Convert James into a Harvin

James will definitely be our X factor next season.
I don't think the point of my post was to say "James can be exactly Percy Harvin" but to say "James is a player you could use in similar fashion to potentially get similar results". Of course I wouldn't expect his production to match Harvin right away, or maybe ever, but using him as a receiver in space, much like Harvin, makes a lot of sense. And Harvin may run hard, but he also has chronic migraines and an ankle injury and one of the 5 worst personalities in football.
^^^ watch the 2:40 mark of the video. Why did we never use James this way?
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yeah if the f**ker can hang on to the ball
That is an interesting idea. The question would obviously be, how good is James at running routes and can he reliably catch Colin's fastball.

The other question is, would he be any better than Kyle Williams at this role? Williams has a similar build, is quick, and is much more proven as a WR. James is the quicker of the two, but I'm sure Williams is the better receiver.

Bottom line, Harvin has rare skills that I think would be difficult to replicate with anybody on our roster.
Originally posted by blm7754:
That is an interesting idea. The question would obviously be, how good is James at running routes and can he reliably catch Colin's fastball.

The other question is, would he be any better than Kyle Williams at this role? Williams has a similar build, is quick, and is much more proven as a WR. James is the quicker of the two, but I'm sure Williams is the better receiver.

Bottom line, Harvin has rare skills that I think would be difficult to replicate with anybody on our roster.

I think the main differences between KW and LMJ are a) James is an elite make-you-miss guy. Heisman candidate, NCAA rushing champion, etc. Williams is a 6th round slot receiver who is shifty but in no way elite. And b), James gives you the versatility that keeps the defense guessing. You can have him on the field and they have to account for him as a runner, as a receiver, as a screen threat, as a decoy. Williams is purely a WR so the defense can play pretty straight up. LMJ is a headache to scheme against and the Niner coaching staff seems to love that.
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
James is too much of a p***y
Harvin is tough as hell and one of the hardest players in the league to bring down. James is easy to bring down

james is a p***y? a dude that small who constantly went between the tackles and through the heart of the defense is not a p***y
He doesn't nearly have Harvin's catching and route running ability . Just can't turn him into harvin. Silly idea
Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
James is too much of a p***y
Harvin is tough as hell and one of the hardest players in the league to bring down. James is easy to bring down

Lol sounds like you didn't watch him in college or at all this year.

nvm
[ Edited by OregonDuckNiner on Feb 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM ]
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:
Lol sounds like you didn't watch him in college or at all this year.

Or you have never watched Harvin.

Not saying I have. You just don't know what you're talking about if you say James goes down easy.





1. Touchdown vs. Atlanta: broke 2 arm tackles
2. Run against AZ @ 1:11 doesn't seem like a p***y to me
3. Screen play @ 1:51: That play should've gone for no gain, but he turns it into a 4-yard gain.
4. I'll let you analyze the KR against NE since you think you know so much about football
5. KR @ 2:52: Breaks Patrick Chung's tackle, who is one of the best safeties in the NFL.

That's the only video I've seen and I don't want to waste anymore time looking at highlights from NFL.com, but I remember a few more instances where he legitimately broke tackles. If you knew the type of player he is, he's deceptively strong and a very physical back. Just b/c he's small doesn't mean he's a p***y.
Originally posted by NCommand:
^^^ watch the 2:40 mark of the video. Why did we never use James this way?

To be completely honest, that was one of the very few plays in his college career that Oregon used him in the passing game. We rarely ran screens, but when we did it was bubble screens to the WR's. That play against Washington State was really the only time we threw to James, and I believe we used him a little more as a receiver against Auburn in 2010 in an attempt to get him the ball in space.

He was predominately a inside-the-tackles back at Oregon, which is the main reason why I was quick to reject the Sproles comparison when he was drafted. Oregon simply didn't throw him the ball enough for me to know if he was a good pass catcher or not.
Not terrible! I like Denard Robinson out of Michigan as a Harvin like player for us...
I think they should use James in as many ways as possible. He's tough, he's quick, he makes guys miss, he breaks tackles. He's like Darren Sproles, only faster. I want to see him getting some hitch passes in the flat in space with linebackers converging on him having to tackle him in the open field. That's what I want to see.
Interesting post.

I think it would be smart idea to try and have an additional weapon no matter who we pick up in FA & draft.
Originally posted by NYCNINER:
Not terrible! I like Denard Robinson out of Michigan as a Harvin like player for us...

Denard Robinson will never be a productive player in the NFL as a QB ... nor as a receiver .... however, the cat does have some wheels on him, and he can take a hit. Having said that, I don't see a place for him on this team.