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Are the 49ers a "MISSED WINDOW" team?

Maybe. It's very hard to return to the super bowl. You need some luck avoiding season ending injuries to your best players and you have to hope some of your older vets don't decline severely.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Baalke cutting Blake Constanzo and Colin Jones to sign Brandon Jacobs destroyed our special teams; 70% of our success last year came from Special teams (field position on both sides of the ball).

I can understand the Constanzo move driven by monetary reason, but I simply didn't get the Colin Jones trade. The guy didn't earn much, and the pick the 49ers got was practically throwaway. A really bad move by Baalke in my book.
No.
Seriously, you gotta burn the entire history of the 49ers out of your mind after this loss, they're just pictures and highlight reels now, this is what is now, the tradition is dead, this is a different team under a different ownership.
the window of talent is still open, but guys go their entire careers not making it to a championship or super bowl. the opportunities are not many and the west will be tougher next year.
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Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by merm49:
My main worry--and what's making this so tough to deal with--is that the defense began to slip up the last several weeks of the season and playoffs. Smith is only getting older, and was obviously crucial to the entire efficacy of the D. Aldon Smith seems largely ineffective without J Smith, though I'm willing to bet his injury was much worse than the team let on. The LBs are the best in the league and still young, but the DBs, particularly the safties, were exposed for what they are: hard hitters who at times struggle in coverage.

We can't keep squandering opportunities like this. We're likely built to be a perennial playoff contender, but that's no guarantee. Tons of teams over the years have been in the playoffs year after year, only to never win the big one. I fear we're that team. We've let two great chances for a championship slip through our fingers the past two years, and shockingly, this year, we were even closer than last year. Until proven otherwise--by winning a SB with this team and this coach--I fear we'll go down like Marino's dolphins, Kelley's Bills, the post 2004 Pats, or the myriad other teams who came oh-so-close but could never seal the deal. With the NFC improving substantially, particularly within our own division, it'll be a challenge to make the playoffs let alone advance all the way to another SB.


You make a lot of good points and I agree with a lot of what you are saying here.
marino was the wonderboy of the nfl in 84 like ck is today but never got back to the super bowl mainly because the dolphins were either unable or unwilling to fix the problems on the team. Jh knows where the problems are on this team. they have been here all year long, pass rush, poor secondary coverage, keystone cops special ed teams and one of the most penalized teams in the nfl. fix the f**king problems coach and admit jenkins was a mistake for gods sake. for three playoff games we had people here proclaiming jenkins would be our secret weapon and would make plays in the big games.. ok

What makes you think that JH will be better than Don Shula (one of the best coaches ever) in addressing the needs of the team? The jury is still very much out on that.
i do not think that. he knew we had depth problems on the d line this year and did nothing to fix it,, he knew akers sucked after the first rams loss and did nothing, he should know that roman is a piece of s**t but will probably welcome him back with open arms and legs.
Originally posted by ninergold:
the window of talent is still open, but guys go their entire careers not making it to a championship or super bowl. the opportunities are not many and the west will be tougher next year.

agreed.
Originally posted by cciowa:
i do not think that. he knew we had depth problems on the d line this year and did nothing to fix it,, he knew akers sucked after the first rams loss and did nothing, he should know that roman is a piece of s**t but will probably welcome him back with open arms and legs.

oh man
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We have a good young QB and coach plus a good front office, that should keep us in contention for the next 10 years.
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Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by cciowa:
i do not think that. he knew we had depth problems on the d line this year and did nothing to fix it,, he knew akers sucked after the first rams loss and did nothing, he should know that roman is a piece of s**t but will probably welcome him back with open arms and legs.

oh man
sorry axe but the more i think about those last four plays the sicker i get. ok i can get james in there on first down cuz gore was tired but sheesh,, bring in gore and dixon and the jumbo fatty formation . i am just stunned by the the start and the finish of the game.
This thread makes no sense. Nada. The Niners have almost their entire team tied up in contract for 2 to 5 years. They've got a young explosive QB who some football people think could be the best in the league in just a couple of years. Their core veterans, Gore included, still have a few years left. They just came within one four-play series with unbelievably bad play-calling away from winning a Super Bowl, they've been in the NFC championship game two years in a row, they've got at least 14 picks in the upcoming draft to tweak, not to rebuild..... and you drama queens are jumping ship??!!

UN.....FRICKING...BELIEVABLE!!

And, why is everyone assuming it will be tougher next year? They've got an entire off-season to work on Kaepernick's game. They've got an off-season to figure out and work on personnel to meet the Seattle threat. They'll actually have a schedule next year that's not as hard as the one they had this year. They'll get a new kicker that doesn't lose a couple games all by himself. COME ON! This is why they call us "whiners." MAN UP!!
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Originally posted by BobS:
We have a good young QB and coach plus a good front office, that should keep us in contention for the next 10 years.

the coach and front office you speak of better know the needs to be fixed and or replaced on this team for next year. more wasted number one draft picks can not and will not be tolerated. you start with firing roman, the special teams coach akers and the entire secondary
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Seriously, you gotta burn the entire history of the 49ers out of your mind after this loss, they're just pictures and highlight reels now, this is what is now, the tradition is dead, this is a different team under a different ownership.

I have no idea what this even means. The Niners are 5-1 in Superbowls. They've been to the NFC Championship game two seasons in a row. They are a totally relevant team again that is in the conversation every season. They have a young team mostly on contract for years. There is no dead tradition. That's just silly. Tradition doesn't die. It is history. History is always there. It's a standard to live up to and this team is close to living up to it - a lot closer to greatness than most of the teams in the league.
As long as Kaepernick keeps improving and becomes the quarterback we think he can become the window will remain open. In today's NFL having a top level QB will keep you in contention. And of course we need to be smart with which players to re-sign and which to let go. And on top of that we can't take naps in drafts like we did last year.
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
This thread makes no sense. Nada. The Niners have almost their entire team tied up in contract for 2 to 5 years. They've got a young explosive QB who some football people think could be the best in the league in just a couple of years. Their core veterans, Gore included, still have a few years left. They just came within one four-play series with unbelievably bad play-calling away from winning a Super Bowl, they've been in the NFC championship game two years in a row, they've got at least 14 picks in the upcoming draft to tweak, not to rebuild..... and you drama queens are jumping ship??!!

UN.....FRICKING...BELIEVABLE!!

And, why is everyone assuming it will be tougher next year? They've got an entire off-season to work on Kaepernick's game. They've got an off-season to figure out and work on personnel to meet the Seattle threat. They'll actually have a schedule next year that's not as hard as the one they had this year. They'll get a new kicker that doesn't lose a couple games all by himself. COME ON! This is why they call us "whiners." MAN UP!!
no one is jumping ship, no one has said they are turning in thier niner membership papers.. most of us are very very mad at the mistakes we made, the lack of effort in the first half and the piss poor play calling at the end of the game. we are just saying there are things to be fixed on this team if they want to be back next year in teh big game. you call it being a drama queen but in this thread there have been lots and lots of legit concerns from yesterday that have been rightfully pointed out by good fans here. they are not drama queens, they are fans who are totallly sick and embarrased by what we put out on the field in the first half and at the end of the game yesterday. the conspiracy loons in the grassy knoll of the new orleans swamps and slums are the ones who are the drama queens here today