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to me this kind of compares to the 85 Bears not trying to get Walter a TD.

Everything Gore did for this franchise and he doesn't even get one shot in the most important series for the Niners in over 20 years????????
That said, guys, aside from HaRoman play calling, missed calls, missed opportunities, one tendency that reared its ugly head is this: every game we started off VERY slow and behind the 8-ball. We would have had to overcome a 22-point deficit when the previous largest overcome margin was 10.

THIS has to be fixed. This is 95% on coaching and you could really see the difference between a veteran (coached) team in how they showed up and finished the game. We showed up in the 2nd half and couldn't finish.
Man it's tough watching the replays of the final 4 plays. They missed on so many spots.

The 2nd down play right before the timeout they had the perfect play call for a QB run to the left.

VD was wide open on the 3rd down play, but he went to crabtree in the flat.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Actually, what many may be missing is that on that long run, Gore actually went out of bounds about the 2.5-3 yard line but it was spotted all the way back at the 7 yard line. He did NOT go out of bounds at the 7. The next play is a 2 yard run up the middle with James and now we are at the 5. Now what? Pass or run? Roman-fail (although Jim

Had the ball been spotted correctly, is there ANY doubt we run Gore up the gut for the TD and chew up the clock? He went out of bounds at the 2:39 mark. If spotted correctly, go ahead and use LMJ for a 2-yard run and run the clock down to the 2-minute warning. Gore is rested and ready to go on the next 3 plays with our jumbo package and H.Ngata out of the game. No brainer.

THIS was the difference in the game (along with about 20 other woulda-coulda-shoulda plays/calls).

I guess it wasn't mean to be.
I don't know what you're talking about. I've watched the replay of this about 5 times now after reading your post and it's pretty clear to me that Ellerbe knocked him out (or Frank stepped out) well before that.
Originally posted by NCommand:
That said, guys, aside from HaRoman play calling, missed calls, missed opportunities, one tendency that reared its ugly head is this: every game we started off VERY slow and behind the 8-ball. We would have had to overcome a 22-point deficit when the previous largest overcome margin was 10.

THIS has to be fixed. This is 95% on coaching and you could really see the difference between a veteran (coached) team in how they showed up and finished the game. We showed up in the 2nd half and couldn't finish.


Coaching was definitely the difference. From strategy to clock management.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by NCommand:
That said, guys, aside from HaRoman play calling, missed calls, missed opportunities, one tendency that reared its ugly head is this: every game we started off VERY slow and behind the 8-ball. We would have had to overcome a 22-point deficit when the previous largest overcome margin was 10.

THIS has to be fixed. This is 95% on coaching and you could really see the difference between a veteran (coached) team in how they showed up and finished the game. We showed up in the 2nd half and couldn't finish.


Coaching was definitely the difference. From strategy to clock management.

Just heard that CK is only 1 for 8 throwing INTO the EZ this year.
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Actually, what many may be missing is that on that long run, Gore actually went out of bounds about the 2.5-3 yard line but it was spotted all the way back at the 7 yard line. He did NOT go out of bounds at the 7. The next play is a 2 yard run up the middle with James and now we are at the 5. Now what? Pass or run? Roman-fail (although Jim

Had the ball been spotted correctly, is there ANY doubt we run Gore up the gut for the TD and chew up the clock? He went out of bounds at the 2:39 mark. If spotted correctly, go ahead and use LMJ for a 2-yard run and run the clock down to the 2-minute warning. Gore is rested and ready to go on the next 3 plays with our jumbo package and H.Ngata out of the game. No brainer.

THIS was the difference in the game (along with about 20 other woulda-coulda-shoulda plays/calls).

I guess it wasn't mean to be.
I don't know what you're talking about. I've watched the replay of this about 5 times now after reading your post and it's pretty clear to me that Ellerbe knocked him out (or Frank stepped out) well before that.

Seriously? They even show a sky-coaches angle video of it and he doesn't even step on the line until the 2 1/4 line...he even stretched his legs out a few more inches while the rest of his body was out of bounds. And like I said, he even dipped and leaned inside on 59 to pick up a couple more yards but again, was not out of bounds until he stepped out at the 2 1/4ish yard line. You could make an argument that he was close to stepping out at the 7 but you can see even from the sky-view he had his foot pointed inside to gear up/square up with 59 to get that extra few yards.

And 59 didn't even TOUCH him until the 4 yard line.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 4, 2013 at 3:21 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Just heard that CK is only 1 for 8 throwing INTO the EZ this year.

Doesn't surprise me. I couldn't remember very many instances where we threw into the EZ for a TD when we were inside the 10. We don't really have a big, tall, physical redzone threat. Plus, it takes a while for a young QB to become proficient throwing inside the 5 when players are tightly packed together. We scored off a few play fakes, but it seems like we were most effective running off tackle with the read-option.

That's why I'm so upset with the playcalling on the final 4 plays. Our O-line was mauling them at that point. They were on their heels. We should have gone to our bread-n-butter.
From Jason Smith NFL.COM, another Roman fan:

"Not to mention the fact that Colin Kaepernick's pass was a poor one -- even if Crabtree catches that ball, there's a 50-50 chance he even stays in bounds. And speaking of 50-50 chances, now you know why my least favorite play in the NFL is the end-zone fade. It's exactly that: a hit-or-miss play. I want better than a 50 percent shot on a fourth-down play from 5 yards away with a Super Bowl title on the line. San Francisco's play-calling on those final four downs was atrocious. The Niners were caught between trying to score and trying to take time off the clock -- and that never works out. They got too cute and blew it. It's that simple. You can't fail to execute and then blame a non-call."
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Terrible. 4 down territory I would've ran Gore, Kaep, or James.
fire Roman
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Just heard that CK is only 1 for 8 throwing INTO the EZ this year.

Doesn't surprise me. I couldn't remember very many instances where we threw into the EZ for a TD when we were inside the 10. We don't really have a big, tall, physical redzone threat. Plus, it takes a while for a young QB to become proficient throwing inside the 5 when players are tightly packed together. We scored off a few play fakes, but it seems like we were most effective running off tackle with the read-option.

That's why I'm so upset with the playcalling on the final 4 plays. Our O-line was mauling them at that point. They were on their heels. We should have gone to our bread-n-butter.

Yeah, agreed...but that's mostly play-calling too. The play designs (as we saw) are to run routes SHORT of the EZ and hope for RAC into the EZ. We're much better throwing from the 15 yard line out INTO the EZ but once we get into the 10, forget it. I agree with you. That TO Harbaugh called may have been JUST that run with CK to the left with Gore and student body left out in front. THAT was a TD right there.
I hated that fade. I hate the fade in general. But I think Kaep audibled to that. It hurts because we were so got damn close it hurts so bad.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Just heard that CK is only 1 for 8 throwing INTO the EZ this year.


Yet another reason it would have been better to take that 5 yard penalty and save the timeout.

Wait. 1 for 8? I can count at least 5 TD's off the top of my head that were thrown into the endzone.
I get all the fire the OC and all but thats a little off base IMO.

Did we not mount a comeback (yes) and his play calling was a part of that. The playes didn't execute on that final series. Coachs call plays and players make them work. How bout Kaep should be quicker about figuring out the D and then make an change at the line and get us into a better play? If a D comes with a blitz look and the coachs didn't think they would and thus called for a certain play but our qb sees it, then its on him to make the change at the line. He takes too dam long to get the darn plays off and it cost us timeouts and adjustments!