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Originally posted by Joecool:
I think most of those read-option plays are not actually an option at all. They are called run-plays. It may be a true read option once we get passed the 40 and into scoring territory because Kaep can take it 30 or so yards into the endzone and so can Gore/LMJ.

It is a very high risk to be doing that when we are not in scoring position because that means Kaep has a VERY high chance of getting tackled at the end of the play which is never a good thing. In scoring position, he's most likely coasting into the endzone standing up and even if he doesn't, you are still highly decreasing the hits he may take.

I agree, but I don't think it's because we've not passed the 40 or whatever. I think some of them are called run-plays to set up the Kaep's read option run later. That's why it works so great because they keep handing it to Gore/James over and over - even when sometimes ends do collapse. The idea is to hit them for a big play when they least expect it.

I bet Kaep would love to take it to the house from his 30 if he thought the ends are biting inside consistently. Kaep (and Roman) will call his number if they felt they can get a 1st down with read-option run as well.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Crow-Magnon:
Originally posted by nevadalove9ers2:
Welcome...the 49ers don't lose superbowls! 5-0

This must be a nice time for you guys. To bad you have to run into us!

I know why you feel that way, but seriously, this Niners team is not the Montana-Young-Rice-Lott teams of the 80's and early 90's. Not to say that San Francisco cannot win this SB, as they most certainly can. But it is nowhere near a given.
you know so many fans , especially in ninerland , are so love struck with the arm of ck because its something they have not seen for a long time. i am sure ravens fans are also in love with the arm of joe cuz it gives them another dimension however i feel this game will still boil down to the defense and the running game for each team. both of these teams run it well, both are physical, both tackle so very well. if both quarterbacks go out there and light it up fine,, but i think this will be a old school school yard king of the mountain game which would make vince lombardi very very proud

I don't know cciowa. We left quite a few plays on the field in our first matchup vs BAL...or Alex did. There is a different aura about our offense now. We are averaging 36.5 or so ppg in the playoffs (leading all playoff teams). THIS all while not losing our run-pass balance. We are also averaging a playoff leading 7.6 yards per play.

Now I understand we haven't exactly played the best defenses but we have played the best offenses on the other end and have out dueled both. BAL has quite a few holes on defense and "emotion" can only go so far.

Also, BAL has a +5 turnover ratio in the playoffs yet they only have a 30:15 TOP. We have 32:59 TOP and are +2 in the turnover margin.

The key to winning this game is to NOT turn the ball over to BAL. They have lived off that in these playoffs.

i believe the reason we "out duel" those offenses is because of our defense being so great, not whoever our QB is having good numbers. its easy to put up better numbers and win when our #1 D(dont care what anyone says) is keeping the other teams down. kaep didnt beat or out duel matt ryan, he beat the falcons defense, matt ryan didnt lose to kaep, he lost to the niners defense. same goes for every other great QB we have beaten this year. just my 1 cent

this game is the 2 best Ds in the league imo. flacco didnt tear up the niners d last year, but the ravens D stymied our offense. with kaep at the helm able to run like he does, i dont think the ravens speed can match his running ability and contain him. i believe that is what gives us the advantage, not including the emergence of crabs to go with moss VD and the inconvient truth if those aspects were nullified.
The Ravens held the most prolific Offense in the League in their OWN HOUSE to 13 points and shut them out in the 2nd Half.

That is a most formidable challenge... One which I suspect the Niners shall not survive.

It is what it is.
Originally posted by TheTruth52:
The Ravens held the most prolific Offense in the League in their OWN HOUSE to 13 points and shut them out in the 2nd Half.

That is a most formidable challenge... One which I suspect the Niners shall not survive.

It is what it is.

OMG you guys beat the Patriots...I wish we could beat them too
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Originally posted by TheTruth52:
The Ravens held the most prolific Offense in the League in their OWN HOUSE to 13 points and shut them out in the 2nd Half.

That is a most formidable challenge... One which I suspect the Niners shall not survive.

It is what it is.

you indeed have a very very good defense. however i think the three headed monster of ck, gore and james is a little to much for your defense. you really can not slow down all three, if you blitz we know ray lewis can not cover vernon davis one on one and if you let ck pass the ball, he will hit moss, crabtree , our two tight ends( i am throwing walker a bone here ) and gore out of the back field. you have a very nice defense but i think we are a bit more well balenced than the pats were. ray rice will give our run d a very stiff test there is no doubt about that. i still feel our corners are vulnerable and if we can not rush joe and if aldon smith continues in his role as the invisible man, than it could swing your way
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
OMG you guys beat the Patriots...I wish we could beat them too
Beat ?

The Ravens held Tom Brady to 1TD.... in New England.. that was Epic.
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
I'll reiterate that Ravens aren't one of the teams I hate. Yet. Because Ray Lewis is pushing me that way. His act--and it is an ACT--is beyond nauseating. The whole "God wants us to win" meme and his stupid "dance" were bad enough, but then to see his dumb a**, contrived, fake-bawling during Natl Anthem last week just took it to a new level of deranged narcissism. Good grief, just think what this C-rate actor has planned for the cameras during the Anthem at the SB.

Ray Lewis has always been a very emotional player and I'm not going to judge if his emotions are fake or real in his last game of his career. I don't know how one can assume either way - nor does it really matter as far as the Niners are concerned.
he may be a leader but he can not cover our tight ends anymore
Originally posted by cciowa:
you indeed have a very very good defense. however i think the three headed monster of ck, gore and james is a little to much for your defense. you really can not slow down all three, if you blitz we know ray lewis can not cover vernon davis one on one and if you let ck pass the ball, he will hit moss, crabtree , our two tight ends( i am throwing walker a bone here ) and gore out of the back field. you have a very nice defense but i think we are a bit more well balenced than the pats were. ray rice will give our run d a very stiff test there is no doubt about that. i still feel our corners are vulnerable and if we can not rush joe and if aldon smith continues in his role as the invisible man, than it could swing your way

Um.. did I mention that the Patriots were the #1 Scoring Offense in the League. that would include the Niners..they hung 41 points the previous game on Houston (not a bad defense). Come on now.. somethings just have to be accepted.. the Niners will have a VERY difficult time scoring on the Ravens.
[ Edited by TheTruth52 on Jan 23, 2013 at 5:57 PM ]
Originally posted by TheTruth52:
Um.. did I mention that the Patriots were the #1 Scoring Offense in the League.. that would include the Niners. They provide a bit more of a challenge I believe.

Except New Englands defense is trash compared to the Niners

BTW the Niners are averaging 36.5 ppg in the Playoffs
[ Edited by sincalfaithful on Jan 23, 2013 at 5:58 PM ]
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Originally posted by TheTruth52:
Originally posted by cciowa:
you indeed have a very very good defense. however i think the three headed monster of ck, gore and james is a little to much for your defense. you really can not slow down all three, if you blitz we know ray lewis can not cover vernon davis one on one and if you let ck pass the ball, he will hit moss, crabtree , our two tight ends( i am throwing walker a bone here ) and gore out of the back field. you have a very nice defense but i think we are a bit more well balenced than the pats were. ray rice will give our run d a very stiff test there is no doubt about that. i still feel our corners are vulnerable and if we can not rush joe and if aldon smith continues in his role as the invisible man, than it could swing your way

Um.. did I mention that the Patriots were the #1 Scoring Offense in the League.. that would include the Niners. They provide a bit more of a challenge I believe.
i just think we run the ball a little bit better than the pats and i think we are much more physical. at any rate, two physical teams, two emotional coaches. two great tackling teams, this is what the super bowl is supposed to be about
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Except New Englands defense is trash compared to the Niners

BTW the Niners are averaging 36.5 ppg in the Playoffs

And the Patriots were Averaging 41.. 35+ during the Regular season. Are you trying to imply that the Niners are a more prolific offense than the Patriots with Tom Brady IN New England ???

Come on now..
Question for Niners.. how good is your Pass Rush ? That will be a key...
Originally posted by TheTruth52:
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Except New Englands defense is trash compared to the Niners

BTW the Niners are averaging 36.5 ppg in the Playoffs

And the Patriots were Averaging 41.. 35+ during the Regular season. Are you trying to imply that the Niners are a more prolific offense than the Patriots with Tom Brady IN New England ???

Come on now..

Did I say they were more prolific? No....They're playing better than NE is now though obviously
Originally posted by TheTruth52:
Question for Niners.. how good is your Pass Rush ? That will be a key...

Not very good we only had one guy amass 19.5 sacks by himself
Originally posted by TheTruth52:
And the Patriots were Averaging 41.. 35+ during the Regular season. Are you trying to imply that the Niners are a more prolific offense than the Patriots with Tom Brady IN New England ???

Come on now..

Well, our offense has been producing more in the playoffs, and lets not forget....We also outscored the Patriots in New England...I think our offense is playing as well or better than NE, and our offense is actually balanced. Add in our far superior defense, and your argument loses merit. Our offense will have more opportunities, and more time with the ball in general than the Patriots did. We will score more than 13 points. I would guess at least double that. I would be surprised if the Ravens put up more than 21
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Originally posted by TheTruth52:
Question for Niners.. how good is your Pass Rush ? That will be a key...
can we talk about something else?