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Smith, Tolzien thread. Yet again

Originally posted by Loco49er:
Originally posted by zillabeast:
Originally posted by Loco49er:
Originally posted by zillabeast:
Originally posted by Loco49er:
Smitty deserves to play, for at least one quarter

Are you f**king kidding me son? Alex Smith plays one iota of this game and Atlanta smokes us in the first half.

It's over. OVER.

Niners got smoked in the first half with Kaep.


Lmao and Smith brings us back for a road win?

This is the last time I speak on the topic, but the notion that Alex achieves the same success in this or any other year as Kaepernick is just laughable. Take a hint from Jacksonville's owner: "Don't be delusional."

Joe Montana. Steve Young. Colin Kaepernick. That says it all.

Over and out.

Smith has brought us back on numerous occasions. Smith had a lot of success with Harbaugh and I have no doubt that he could have helped us win #6. He was a big reason we were successful for the last two years...if you don't see that then you're delusional. I'm happy for Kaep but he got handed a Super Bowl ready team, he never had to play on crappy teams like Smith. Smith deserves credit and deserves to play in the Super Bowl.


smith's contributions will be ignored by some but he helped this team develop a winning attitude in the harbaugh era,,,last year, for instance, .clutch pass vs seahawks in seattle, 41 yds to crabtree, to set up game winning field goal, comeback win vs eagles after being down 23 , with 193 yds passing in 3rd quarter...gamewinning pass to walker vs lions...beats giants in regular season..great comback win in playoffs vs saints...this season,beating green bay on road (at a time when kaepernick, no doubt a great talent, wasnt ready to start), leading team to 6-2 start..........i dont know if niners had, for example, not signed smith last year but instead went with hasselback, that they achieve alll they have
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Alex Smith is part of the team, just not a starter. I hope he takes a pay cut and takes a backup position. I really doubt it , but I think it would be the best bet for him.
Originally posted by BadgerHawk:
The NFL is a business. If you don't win, you are gone. Jerry Glanville once said the NFL stands for Not For Long. Harbaugh made a choice based on what was best for the TEAM. It was never about owing anyone anything. Alex isn't owed anything and he knows that. I thank him for what he has done but he was replaced by a superior player.

My views exactly.
Originally posted by titan:
Alex Smith is part of the team, just not a starter. I hope he takes a pay cut and takes a backup position. I really doubt it , but I think it would be the best bet for him.

Why do you think him being a backup is his best bet?
I am still a bit bitter over this, thus why I don't come on this thread. But I understand the choice 100%. I honestly feel Alex could have gotten us here as well. Yesterdays game kind of reminded me of the Giants game, and yesterday we made the one or two plays that we didn't make last year. For example we didn't turn the ball over up by 4 with 8 minutes left. In all actuality Ginn actually gave us a huge boost to help get us the lead. Last year we fumbled that punt away. Another example was Dixon getting the one yard on third down. Last year he tripped himself.

If we made one of these two plays last year I think we would have won. That just kind of made me think we really should have won it last year, but that point is pretty damn moot now.

I thought the move was really premature, but I have been proven wrong. It really sucks that Alex was playing pretty well, but never got his chance to finish what he pretty much started. That's why I'm bitter. But I now understand and realize this has been Harbaughs plan all along. And to be honest I'm pretty sure Alex has known this all along as well. You would have to think they discussed this. I think that's why he's accepted his role is because he knew he could lose his job before he even signed the contract.

Again just sucks he lost it due to injury. I think he was really started to get into a rhythm just as Kaep is getting in (Week 9). He gets injured and Harbaugh decided might as well make the move now. I'm okay with that. I've never said Alex was a "great" QB, but always that he was a damn good QB who could get the job done. As I said in my first paragraph we were one or two plays away from going there last year. We make one of those plays we are going for #7 this year.


So yeah, Alex is a good QB but Kaepernick can be a "great" QB. I mean, in my honest opinion the guy "COULD BE" the Lebron James of the NFL. Well as far as just having the complete package. So you know, it's really hard to not like the guy. Sucks Alex got screwed but I'm pretty sure he'll be okay. If there is one guy that has a great life set for him it's Alex. Dudes got money, hot cheer leader wife, smarts to do something after football, and he still has plenty, plenty of juice left in the tank. I will be rooting for him where ever he goes, and would like nothing more than to beat his ass in a Super Bowl sometime.
[ Edited by JiksJuicy on Jan 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM ]
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
So yeah, Alex is a good QB but Kaepernick can be a "great" QB. I mean, in my honest opinion the guy "COULD BE" the Lebron James of the NFL. Well as far as just having the complete package. So you know, it's really hard to not like the guy. Sucks Alex got screwed but I'm pretty sure he'll be okay. If there is one guy that has a great life set for him it's Alex. Dudes got money, hot cheer leader wife, smarts to do something after football, and he still has plenty, plenty of juice left in the tank. I will be rooting for him where ever he goes, and would like nothing more than to beat his ass in a Super Bowl sometime.

I agree. I really had no idea what to think of the move to Kaepernik at the time. I really thought Kaep had high potential but would be very raw. I have been pleasantly surprised, obviously... he plays a pretty polished game.
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
I am still a bit bitter over this, thus why I don't come on this thread. But I understand the choice 100%. I honestly feel Alex could have gotten us here as well. Yesterdays game kind of reminded me of the Giants game, and yesterday we made the one or two plays that we didn't make last year. For example we didn't turn the ball over up by 4 with 8 minutes left. In all actuality Ginn actually gave us a huge boost to help get us the lead. Last year we fumbled that punt away. Another example was Dixon getting the one yard on third down. Last year he tripped himself.

If we made one of these two plays last year I think we would have won. That just kind of made me think we really should have won it last year, but that point is pretty damn moot now.

I thought the move was really premature, but I have been proven wrong. It really sucks that Alex was playing pretty well, but never got his chance to finish what he pretty much started. That's why I'm bitter. But I now understand and realize this has been Harbaughs plan all along. And to be honest I'm pretty sure Alex has known this all along as well. You would have to think they discussed this. I think that's why he's accepted his role is because he knew he could lose his job before he even signed the contract.

Again just sucks he lost it due to injury. I think he was really started to get into a rhythm just as Kaep is getting in (Week 9). He gets injured and Harbaugh decided might as well make the move now. I'm okay with that. I've never said Alex was a "great" QB, but always that he was a damn good QB who could get the job done. As I said in my first paragraph we were one or two plays away from going there last year. We make one of those plays we are going for #7 this year.


So yeah, Alex is a good QB but Kaepernick can be a "great" QB. I mean, in my honest opinion the guy "COULD BE" the Lebron James of the NFL. Well as far as just having the complete package. So you know, it's really hard to not like the guy. Sucks Alex got screwed but I'm pretty sure he'll be okay. If there is one guy that has a great life set for him it's Alex. Dudes got money, hot cheer leader wife, smarts to do something after football, and he still has plenty, plenty of juice left in the tank. I will be rooting for him where ever he goes, and would like nothing more than to beat his ass in a Super Bowl sometime.

Here comes the Smith "fantasy". He could of won it too. What a crock.

Smith will never, ever get a Super Bowl unless he is on the bench. In 5 years he will symbolize what was bad with the Niners.
His distinction will only be that he was the highest draft pick ever selected by the Niners. And the highest paid QB ever (until Kap get rewarded). Paid the most, delivered the least.

Harbaugh resurrected his career and he should be thankful for that. His interest is an all time high now and I think it will be higher than if he remained the starter.

I think he is a class act as a person and hate saying anything negative. But the zombie like following is what is hard to stomach. I wish him well and am hopeful the zombies leave here and join him somewhere else.
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
I am still a bit bitter over this, thus why I don't come on this thread. But I understand the choice 100%. I honestly feel Alex could have gotten us here as well. Yesterdays game kind of reminded me of the Giants game, and yesterday we made the one or two plays that we didn't make last year. For example we didn't turn the ball over up by 4 with 8 minutes left. In all actuality Ginn actually gave us a huge boost to help get us the lead. Last year we fumbled that punt away. Another example was Dixon getting the one yard on third down. Last year he tripped himself.

If we made one of these two plays last year I think we would have won. That just kind of made me think we really should have won it last year, but that point is pretty damn moot now.

I thought the move was really premature, but I have been proven wrong. It really sucks that Alex was playing pretty well, but never got his chance to finish what he pretty much started. That's why I'm bitter. But I now understand and realize this has been Harbaughs plan all along. And to be honest I'm pretty sure Alex has known this all along as well. You would have to think they discussed this. I think that's why he's accepted his role is because he knew he could lose his job before he even signed the contract.

Again just sucks he lost it due to injury. I think he was really started to get into a rhythm just as Kaep is getting in (Week 9). He gets injured and Harbaugh decided might as well make the move now. I'm okay with that. I've never said Alex was a "great" QB, but always that he was a damn good QB who could get the job done. As I said in my first paragraph we were one or two plays away from going there last year. We make one of those plays we are going for #7 this year.


So yeah, Alex is a good QB but Kaepernick can be a "great" QB. I mean, in my honest opinion the guy "COULD BE" the Lebron James of the NFL. Well as far as just having the complete package. So you know, it's really hard to not like the guy. Sucks Alex got screwed but I'm pretty sure he'll be okay. If there is one guy that has a great life set for him it's Alex. Dudes got money, hot cheer leader wife, smarts to do something after football, and he still has plenty, plenty of juice left in the tank. I will be rooting for him where ever he goes, and would like nothing more than to beat his ass in a Super Bowl sometime.

let it go man and just enjoy the super bowl.

no one player is bigger than the TEAM.
Originally posted by OldJoe:
Here comes the Smith "fantasy". He could of won it too. What a crock.

Smith will never, ever get a Super Bowl unless he is on the bench. In 5 years he will symbolize what was bad with the Niners.
His distinction will only be that he was the highest draft pick ever selected by the Niners. And the highest paid QB ever (until Kap get rewarded). Paid the most, delivered the least.

Harbaugh resurrected his career and he should be thankful for that. His interest is an all time high now and I think it will be higher than if he remained the starter.

I think he is a class act as a person and hate saying anything negative. But the zombie like following is what is hard to stomach. I wish him well and am hopeful the zombies leave here and join him somewhere else.

Sums it up perfectly.

There's not one pass Smith makes Kaep can't.

There's lots of passes Kaep makes Smith can't.

And then there's the run threat.

Of course I haven't seen Kaep perfect the "run right and throw it out of bounds on 3rd down" play yet.......
Originally posted by susweel:
let it go man and just enjoy the super bowl.

no one player is bigger than the TEAM.

It's crazy. We're going to the Super Bowl and some are still sad/upset/bitter. WHAT?
Originally posted by InHarbsWeTrust:
Originally posted by susweel:
let it go man and just enjoy the super bowl.

no one player is bigger than the TEAM.

It's crazy. We're going to the Super Bowl and some are still sad/upset/bitter. WHAT?
banwagon fans
Originally posted by captveg:
This game was eerily similar to the Eagles game last year, so it could have happened.

We'll never know.

In any case, Smith is surely wanting to start, but I'm sure he's happy to be on this team, going to the SB, and he's probably ecstatic for many of his teammates who he's been friends with for a long time now (Gore, Staley, Vernon, etc.)

No it wasn't. The stakes are a hell of a lot higher in the playoffs.
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Originally posted by InHarbsWeTrust:
Originally posted by susweel:
let it go man and just enjoy the super bowl.

no one player is bigger than the TEAM.

It's crazy. We're going to the Super Bowl and some are still sad/upset/bitter. WHAT?
aside from akers what can one be mad about? how can a guy kick it out of the end zone and miss a chip shot,,, sorry.. that was negative! today is not the day for that!!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by InHarbsWeTrust:
Originally posted by susweel:
let it go man and just enjoy the super bowl.

no one player is bigger than the TEAM.

It's crazy. We're going to the Super Bowl and some are still sad/upset/bitter. WHAT?
banwagon fans

careful....
If your only intention in posting in this thread is to rile other up, say "I told you so," etc., then I suggest that you don't post in here.

Thanks.