Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
Well i watched again, and gonna be honest, i didnt see what some saw. And i have to say we in the zone are about 50-50. Which is some see half full, some half empty.
To say the kid doesnt have talent is an understatement. I'm gonna just go by stats over the past two games, thats simple. No passing Td's to a TE or WR in the last two games. Yup i said it correctly not one.
The rushing TD was cool this week, then i think he broke off one last week. But no one noticing a pattern. Good for one long run. and to me doesnt take the place of the entire game.
Im seeing more and more growing pains, but thats to be expected. Not gonna go into too much, cuz then the birds gonna come out, and oh yeah that aint right.
But i mean who cares. WE are in the zone to give our opinion, not have it liked by everyone.
I'm not gonna start with the Smith crap, because to be honest, I didnt talk about the backup ever as a 49er fan, and like the kid or not, he's not the starter.
I'll just say, had the QB previously not thrown a TD in two straight games, the zone would explode. Now dont get me wrong, CRabs is killing, but thats about it right now. Gore is MVP like as usual. How many 3 and outs did we have this week. I dont think we converted a third down until the 3rd of 4th quarter. But he played pretty good. Maybe i'm just missing something.
The last two weeks, i can count on two hands, how many deep balls he's thrown. You know the one that keeps him the starter. Even the announcers said in the 4th quarter, well we've only seen that one deep ball to Moss, but isnt this one of the reasons he's starting.
Now once again, is he playing like crap hell no. He's playing like a 2nd year quarterback with his first starting experience. And is 3-1. But i see him being bailed out just like the QB previously was. And witout the point in turnovers that Kaep is benefitting from. I mean two straight weeks a turnover in the beginning and the defense, and this week special teams bails him out.
I say give the kid his props, lets stop hoping he fails (some of us) just so Smith can be put in. Just support, and root for whomever is behind center.
But in no way sugarcoat what u see, regardless of any heat u get from fans, because we are all fans at the end of the day.
As we all say Go Niners!
Just to address part of your point above...
YES. He is in there to complete more of those longer passes. He WAS completing them against the Bears and Saints. What has happened since is that defenses are playing him differently than they had before and differently than they played Smith. They are playing zone deep down the field and leaving recievers open underneath.
Thats why he's completing shorter passes. Additionally, deeper passes require the QB to hold the ball longer and expose himself to the pass rush....and that's why he's been getting sacked.
They will work this out tho. Defenses are fearing that deep ball right now and it's the job of Harbaugh/Roman/Kaepernick to figure out how to expose that coverage.
BTW...YES....people would be ripping Alex apart if he had 2 games in a row without a TD...but they would have been equally wrong to do so.
Thanks for Responding Marv. Now while the above highlighted would of been wrong. I'm more or less talking about the reality of the zone. And the reality of the zone goes for the latter. What im trying to say is that we have a certain bit of standards for the individuals that play. Now what those are may differ from person to person.
That's why im glad you said in adressing part of my point. But it's also the other part that many dont wish to speak of or admit.
So using the TD reason. We ripped past qb's for something like this going to Rattay. And because kaep is in, some say that we now should join hands, sing kumbaya, and support the QB. I said the same thing the past few years, and you think an inkling cared. (Well i cant say that, lol). But point is, it still happened. So i kind of got used to it.
As i said above in no way am i knocking what Kaep has done. And to disagree I have to say that they dont fear the deep ball. Truth be told, every week they Fear Frank. And I still see the mindframe of you stop Frank, you can stop the niners. And even with the QB change. that idea has held true.
Everytime and not just some, but everytime they talk about Kaep i hear the same, "Is he gonna be the starter?, and they still bring up Smith, compare, and say just like Steve, and Mooch, this past wednesday about the message our team is sending with switching the QB.
Overall I like what I see from Kaep, and he has tremendous upside. You have to take the good with the bad, but working this out, tweeking this out, I just feel that now may not have been the time.
But as i said above. I have to go with who coaches choose, whether i agree or not is irrelevant and I've always been that way.
So while i see some positive things from Kaep, just like with any QB, i cant just close my eyes, say oh dont worry they'll get it fixed, if I truly dont feel that way.
And i have to say, so far, some mistakes that have been made, have happened back to back. Cant just say dont worry bout that, it'll get fixed, u feel me.
Just like we cant seem to win the third game. Even with a change at QB. So some things aren't as easy, even if we want them to be. I hope for the best with Kaep running our offense, but u do know enough turnovers, and timeouts, and confusion in the huddle, over time, somethings gonna give. And I hope it's not at the expense of our playoff run this year.
Just saying, but thanks again for responding Marv. and BTW I do have to say I do smile because at times at least the zone is consistent. Went crazy on what Smith did or didnt do. And stayed the same with Kaep.
Gotta love the Zone.... Go Niners!
[ Edited by Jersey9er on Dec 10, 2012 at 1:38 PM ]